HELP - looking for a tool in LOGOS

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Terry Wigmore | Forum Activity | Posted: Tue, Jan 26 2021 8:34 AM

Years ago there was a tool that you could enter a percentage into (such as 60%) and Logos would search through the document/book and highlight the most relevant 60% of that book. This way one could read 60% of the book and get the gist of it.

Does anyone remember what that tool is or where I can find it in the newer version of LOGOS?

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Graham Criddle | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Jan 26 2021 8:53 AM

Hi Terry - and welcome to the forums.

I'm afraid I don't remember any tool that did that in Logos and I'm not aware of any way to do it in the current version

Graham 

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DMB | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Jan 26 2021 9:07 AM

I remember something like that; maybe stand-alone like the maps. Was curious.

Closest in Libby is the Note File Summary, and the Fuzzy tool (eg 60% match).

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Terry Wigmore | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Jan 26 2021 9:51 AM

That was it. The Fuzzy tool. How do I find that in the current version?

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DMB | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Jan 26 2021 10:38 AM

Graham knows more. It's the top section of a Bible? search, Bible only, and nothing like Libby's fuzzy search (different concept).

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xnman | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Jan 26 2021 11:23 AM

Terry --- 

Maybe this was it?   https://community.logos.com/forums/t/132569.aspx 

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NB.Mick | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Jan 26 2021 1:07 PM

Fuzzy search is there and is bringing back something that allegedly was working somewhat similar in Libronix / Logos 3 - but it definitely does not do what was described in the OP, something like an automated GetAbstracts with configurable level of depth/shortening - and I don't remember anyone else claiming that Libronix used to have that and/or that Logos 4+ should "bring back" such an innovative and really helpful (time and cost-saving) functionality.  

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Jan 26 2021 1:22 PM

Terry Wigmore:
the most relevant 60% of that book.

Most relevant to what? I don't recall such a feature and I go back to version 2 - which spent more time waiting than working for me.

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DMB | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Jan 26 2021 1:38 PM

'Relevant' ... can't speak to OPs, but Libby's relevance was an interesting concept. If I search 'gods' in my Asherah book, it first shows me the direct talking-about-gods. Then things related to gods (eg house of the gods). Then not gods, but close ... goddesses.  And so on. Combines grammar, form, and extras.

If they'd improved it, and then hooked it to the current datasets, it'd be quite relevant.

Of course, they didn't ... the Logos7+ is a concordance of controlled translations.

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Scott David | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jan 29 2021 3:59 PM

I don't remember Fuzzy Search, but I started using Logos in ~1996, and I do remember Terry! I believe it was something like: View > Auto Summarization... what a cool throwback! You could set the highlight color, and the % you wanted to view... then (if I remember correctly) -- you could filter (to just see the highlighted percentage).

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Terry Wigmore:

Years ago there was a tool that you could enter a percentage into (such as 60%) and Logos would search through the document/book and highlight the most relevant 60% of that book. This way one could read 60% of the book and get the gist of it.

Does anyone remember what that tool is or where I can find it in the newer version of LOGOS?

That sounds like the "Summarization" visual filter in Libronix 3.0. There's a short description on p107 of this PDF: https://www.logos.com/media/libronix_quick_start_guide.pdf 

There's no equivalent feature in Logos 4 and later.

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SteveF | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jan 30 2021 4:34 AM

I also  used the SUMMARIZATION ability of Libronix 3

BUT - the complaint/evaluation at that time was a lack of consistency/accuracy in the Tools resulting output.

Often some materials/ideas/concepts that were "central" or pivotal were just not included in the resulting "summarization" so it resulted in a "hit-or-miss" presentation.

Thank you for this trip down "memory lane"

Regards, SteveF

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Terry Wigmore | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jan 30 2021 4:46 AM

Thanks Bradley. I knew I wasn't crazy but I obviously mixed up the two features - fuzzy search and Summarization. It's been a long time since I used the tool but it would come in handy right now. It might be good to put back in even if it isn't perfect.

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Scott David | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jan 30 2021 8:13 AM

This is cool to look at! This was a neat tool -- but if indeed it had accuracy issues (thanks SteveF) -- then that's an understandable issue.

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