Barnes is on the Move

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Alex Scott | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Sep 14 2010 1:25 PM

Raising your bids to more than $30 isn't going to help unless you were in at less than $30 before.  Every bid at more than $30 only counts for one bid at $30 even if you bid $100.  Of course, if there were a massive amount if bids at $35 or more that could theoretically make it be produced for $35 but looking at the chart, that's not going to happen.

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Mark Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Sep 14 2010 2:38 PM

Am I the only one here who is weary of the Barnes raisers? Guys (and gals) you have made a loud noise about poor Pastor Barnes and his work. He's been languishing for years. Banging the drum hasn't worked. I would not suggest louder banging.

I suspect that most of those who would want Barnes have it in another form and don't want to pay even $30 for it. But who really knows? All we know is this CP is dead in the water.

I know I have beat the drum myself for other CP resources, but I do think this one has really been exposed unlike dozens of other CP offers. It just isn't getting traction as they say. Maybe it is time to rest a bit. Most folks aren't going to drop their bids if you back off for a few months.

I would like all of you to have Rev. Barnes, but I think you've given it your best shot for now, so maybe it is time to back off. Please?

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SteveF | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Sep 14 2010 2:44 PM

Mark A. Smith:
Am I the only one here who is weary of the Barnes raisers?

Yes?

 

Regards, SteveF

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DIsciple II | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Sep 14 2010 2:46 PM

Levi D.:

I've been grabbing screenshots every now and then of Barne's progress:

Here is one from August 14, one month ago:

And this is today, Sept. 14th:

Hopefully Thomas' excellent blog will push Barnes over the hill and it will pick up speed!

From your screen shots I take it you raised your bid in that time period.... Smile

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Levi D. | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Sep 14 2010 3:07 PM

Andrew McKenzie:
From your screen shots I take it you raised your bid in that time period.... Smile

Just a little Wink

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Chris Thompson | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Sep 14 2010 3:48 PM

Maybe some cheerleading will work.

Gimmie a B…..

B

Gimmie an A…

A

 

Big Smile

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Chris Thompson | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Sep 14 2010 4:01 PM

I think i saw it move. Big Smile

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DIsciple II | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Sep 14 2010 4:39 PM

Abi Gail:

I think i saw it move. Big Smile

As a result of the excellent blog post lets hope it gathers interest at a more rapid rate than this thread has been gathering interest lately....

 

 

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Floyd Johnson | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Sep 14 2010 4:43 PM

Andrew McKenzie:

Abi Gail:

I think i saw it move. Big Smile

As a result of the excellent blog post lets hope it gathers interest at a more rapid rate than this thread has been gathering interest lately....

I would be happy if it gained interest at the same rate as this thread.  Cool

 

Blessings,
Floyd

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Friedrich | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Sep 15 2010 3:37 AM

Mark A. Smith:
Am I the only one here who is weary of the Barnes raisers?

 

Today's blog post, a counter point to Thomas Black, by Mark A. Smith: "Time for a Barnes Razing?"

Surprise   Wink

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Chris Thompson | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Sep 15 2010 4:09 AM

OH NO.

This could cause an international incident. You did hear about that other radical pastor in FL. who planned a book burning?

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Floyd Johnson | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Sep 15 2010 6:21 AM

But he backed off that and chose the higher road.  I assume that Dan will also.

Blessings,
Floyd

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TCBlack | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Sep 15 2010 6:23 AM

Well, perhaps if an Ardent Barnes Supporter had written the post there would have been more progress.  Perhaps it's expecting more than one day can bring, but it appears that Barnes has made no significant progress if any.

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Friedrich | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Sep 15 2010 7:16 AM

Floyd Johnson:
he backed off that and chose the higher road.  I assume that Dan will also.

alas, my sense of humor cannot go much higher.  Stick out tongue

 

I like Apples.  Especially Honeycrisp.

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Chris Thompson | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Sep 15 2010 9:08 AM

Dan DeVilder:

alas, my sense of humor cannot go much higher.  Stick out tongue

 

If this is the apex of his humor, Think what the depths might produce. Does Snidely Whiplash come to mind?  

 

                                                                        

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JRS | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Sep 15 2010 9:35 AM

SOMETIMES, no matter how hard you try you can't quite reach your desire, things just stall.  Time for a "Stalled and Waiting for a Miracle" second level tier for CP.

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Alan Macgregor | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Sep 15 2010 10:37 AM

Dan

There's nothing wrong with your sense of humour. It's just like mine!Big Smile

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K.J. | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Sep 16 2010 6:29 AM

This is a classic case of a poor marketing strategy.  A company who can sell a non-existent, unproven, prototype of a commentary to it's highly educated clientèle for $700 US,  should be able to promote a highly acclaimed, tried and tested Christian classic for $30 US...If they really wanted to.

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Jerry Bush | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Sep 16 2010 7:32 AM

Disagree.

This is a classic case of using two different marketing strategies. The new commentary set is something Logos has put money up front for. It will likely have a high profit margin but not a lot of volume in terms of sales because of the price and limited audience.

The Barnes thing is "we will do it if enough people want it." Remember on community pricing, they are looking to cover costs. Anything after that is mostly profit, since in this case it is PD material. It will also likely be a low-volume title, as it is older. If it gets published, I could see it being included in a collection in the future.

Another way to put it is this: Logos has a very vested interest in marketing the new commentary because if they don't do it properly, they will lose lots of money that has already been spent. They have limited interest in Barnes; they don't really care too much one way or the other if it gets done or not. That is speaking from a business perspective. I am sure there are many Logos employees that would like to have Barnes, but opinions and wants do not keep a business alive and growing. Cash flow does.

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TCBlack | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Sep 16 2010 7:53 AM

Well said Jerry

Jerry Bush:
Cash flow does.
By all appearances the cash flow to produce Barnes isn't there. and at the glacial growth rate one wonders if it will be before the final volume of the EEC ships. (Props to Andrew)

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