Logos Tech Tip on Longacre Dataset not the same?

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Pater Noster | Forum Activity | Posted: Sun, Feb 21 2021 5:15 PM

I am trying to run the example of doing a Longacre dataset search on literary type, from an email I got, a Logos Tech Tip today.

If you check this video, at 2:27, it does a search - but at least in Verbum, the menus look nothing like this video's menus, and what I do seem able to develop as a search is much different than this example. When I right click on Abram, my menu looks much different.

Can someone offer more specific instructions, something must be missing from what this video shows to run this search? 

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That's a old video. Since that time, the items on the menu have switched sides. Look on the left side for the Longacre items.

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Pater Noster | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Feb 22 2021 3:56 AM

Thanks Andrew, I suspected that. I found the Narrative on the right, but the search looks different. I am guessing the search syntax has been simplified since then? The video has this:

and mine is this:

{Section <LongacreGenre = Narr: Story>}

Also, there does not seem to be a "Search this Resource" any more? That's what they did, I did a Search Open Resources. Or is there another way I should search this resource for Longacre?:


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You will actually find two different entries in the context menu for Longacre Genre. One is a reference, and the other is a label:

The Label (the first one in my screenshot) generates the Label search syntax, and the reference (the second) generates the Section syntax.

The difference is described in the Using Search section of the Longacre Genre Analysis of the Bible Dataset Documentation: https://ref.ly/logosres/cidbdoclgenre?art=art6

The Inline option will search just that resource without opening a separate Search panel.

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Pater Noster | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Feb 22 2021 7:33 AM

Thanks Andrew, I am not seeing the same thing though. When I right click on either 'When' or 'Abram" in Gen17.1, I see only this:

When I click on Narrative (see the orange vertical line), I don't see what you see in the left or right pane. I also don't seem to have two entries like you do. Am I missing a step or a setting? 

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Does it show up if you expand the group of labels?

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Pater Noster | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Feb 22 2021 9:10 AM

Wow there's a lot I don't understand about this part.

That was it, in a way - when I see the Intertext facet, I expand and the second search by Label is able to be performed there.

But sometimes the Intertext facet does not show up - I keep right clicking, and eventually it shows up - what causes it to show up or not?

And - when I run the label search - everything in the bible and search is highlighted. I don't have any visual filters on that I can see - what causes this?

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The right click menu is grouping together a similar class of references. There may not be an Intertext reference, but there will be some other reference that can be expanded to find the reference you are looking for.

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