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Stephen Smith | Forum Activity | Posted: Yesterday 8:32 PM

I just purchased NICNT second edition for Romans. I already had the first edition of Romans for that commentary set. In my layouts I have the NICNT included in the link set for my study and when I am in a book of the bible in which I own the corresponding NICNT volume it links to it appropriately. However, I notice now that if I jump to somewhere in Romans it is opening the first edition instead of the second edition of Romans for that commentary set. 

Is there any way to get it to use the latest edition? I hope that made sense.

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NB.Mick | Forum Activity | Replied: Yesterday 10:53 PM

Stephen Smith:
I notice now that if I jump to somewhere in Romans it is opening the first edition instead of the second edition of Romans for that commentary set. 

You could change the series of "superseded" volume from 'New International Commentary on the Old and New Testament' to something else, such as 'NICONT - old'

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I use series: 1st and 2nd respectively, and also change the short title accordingly.

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Stephen Smith:
Is there any way to get it to use the latest edition? I hope that made sense.

One idea is prioritization so when see first edition of Romans, can use an arrow key to change parallel resource to second edition (or select from parallel resource menu), followed by saving layout (so next time layout is opened, second edition of Romans is opened & linked)

Beloved Amodeo:

I use series: 1st and 2nd respectively, and also change the short title accordingly.

NICNT series has three editions of Romans so my preference is customizing Titles (includes Content Year prefix)

94B4 Library NICNT Romans

Thread => Creating a New Series of Commentaries includes my Title conventions

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NB.Mick | Forum Activity | Replied: Today 12:29 PM

I understand Stephens's use case to be that he has any NICONT commentary open and then wants to switch to Romans and open the Romans edition in the commentary series. This works in Logos - by looking into the series field. The problem is if a series has more than one commentaries for a biblical book and the user, such as Stephen, wants a specific of e.g. the three existing ones.

The real (and simple) solution is to take out the ambiguity for Logos and have the desired work go with the same series name as the other ones, and change the series field for the undesired versions (thus changing both to be more precise won't cut it, and a layout won't work either, unless you open the specific Romans resource, which will be unnecessary if Stephen studies e.g. James).

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NICNT series has three editions of Romans
For Murray's I use Classic. KS4J your approach is exacting and extends to your approach with Bibles. I'm not saying you're wrong, but as a layman I prefer less precision. There are other books in the NICNT series with "classic" editions.

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NB.Mick:
The real (and simple) solution is to take out the ambiguity for Logos and have the desired work go with the same series name as the other ones, and change the series field for the undesired versions (thus changing both to be more precise won't cut it, and a layout won't work either, unless you open the specific Romans resource, which will be unnecessary if Stephen studies e.g. James).
I want to be sure where you're coming from here, would you kindly set up this example and define the problem? I want to be sure that I have a workable practice in this case. James is an example of a series with a "classic" edition.

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Sounds basically correct. Below is my layout I use:

Everything is using link set A. If I then go somewhere in Romans, everything opens appropriate books (commentary sets, etc) to the place in Romans I enter. However, it opens Romans first edition (of NICNT) instead of my recently acquired 2nd edition of Romans that is now available for NICNT.

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NB.Mick | Forum Activity | Replied: Today 1:33 PM

Beloved Amodeo:
NB.Mick:
The real (and simple) solution is to take out the ambiguity for Logos and have the desired work go with the same series name as the other ones, and change the series field for the undesired versions (...)

I want to be sure where you're coming from here, would you kindly set up this example and define the problem?

The problem is that when entering a new bible verse location into the locator bar of a commentary, Logos looks whether this bible verse is dealt with in the current book, if not, it looks up for a book in the same series that treats this verse. If there are multiple such books, it might open the one first indexed, possibly the older one, or any of the two/three. The solution is to have only the newest edition in the series   

I set it up for my NICONT series and put "old edition" in front of the series names where I have more than one commentary for a book (I use numeric mytags to be able to sort/filter commentaries by bible book, the numbers resembling those Logos uses internally for the resourcenames)

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For Logos, I now have two different series, NICONT and "old version - NICONT". The NICONT series only has the newest editions of those books I own.

EDIT: the link set will be carried along to new resources opened from the series, so the commentary will follow when the location of the bible in the link set is changed, and the newly opened resource will be in the the link set. The former commentary resource will automatically close. 

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Couple of questions.

NB.Mick:
(I use numeric mytags to be able to sort/filter commentaries by bible book, the numbers resembling those Logos uses internally for the resourcenames)
Where did you find these numbers that Logos uses?

NB.Mick:
For Logos, I now have two different series, NICONT and "old version - NICONT". The NICONT series only has the newest editions of those books I own.
Is it critical to only have two named elements composing this series? I have three: Classic, 1st, 2nd.

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NB.Mick | Forum Activity | Replied: Today 2:21 PM

Beloved Amodeo:
NB.Mick:
(I use numeric mytags to be able to sort/filter commentaries by bible book, the numbers resembling those Logos uses internally for the resourcenames)
Where did you find these numbers that Logos uses?

I used them many years ago for collections (I think those are still in the wiki somewhere and maybe were built first by Mark Barnes), but the idea is easy. Gen = #01, Ex = #02 through Maleachi = #39. Mt = #60, Mk = #61 ... making Rev = #87. Deuterocanonical books fill #40 through #59 like this:

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Beloved Amodeo:
Is it critical to only have two named elements composing this series? I have three: Classic, 1st, 2nd.

It is not critical, but different: I understand the use case to intend the most current edition to open, but to have as full coverage as possible. If 2nd is a series name for you, you can jump only from new edition to new edition, but will miss out all the many many books that only have a "first" edition - and within the 1st edition you can never automatically open a 2nd edition because it's in a different series. If the info about which wave of editions is relevant for you, in my opinion it is better kept in tags or title changes - the series name needs to be the same for all most current editions to work (and it might be worthwhile to keep the FL-provided standard there)   

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Thanks Mick!

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