BWS: finding named word studies?

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steve clark | Forum Activity | Posted: Fri, Sep 3 2010 9:17 AM

is there a way to locate all the named Bible Word Studies (ones that i have given a Title) ?

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Graham Criddle | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Sep 3 2010 9:35 AM

Hi Steve

I don't know of a way of locating them - but if you put them into a Favorites folder when you create them you should easily be able to go back to them.

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steve clark | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Sep 3 2010 9:38 AM

Thanks Graham!

That helps for the future, but there are several that have been done and i cannot find them. Was hoping for a way similar to that of MyContent search in the Passage Guide.

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steve clark | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Sep 3 2010 10:09 AM

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We need a way to find all categories of Content that we make. It would be nice to have a new Tool in the Tool menu which helped us find our content. This tool would be a central place to find: Notes, Clippings, named Passage Guides, named Exegetical Guides, named Bible Word Studies, Passage Lists, Visual Filters, Syntax Searches, Sentence Diagrams, etc.

Having to hunt down some of these in different ways (using Files and sorting and scrolling, or building a custom Passage Guide and using MyContent and then guessing which passage range will intersect to show the contents) is time consuming and frustrating. e.g. There is no way right now to locate named Bible Word Studies, thus they are lost in the ether of my computer.

This is not meant to be a bashing of L4 (on the contrary, i am very grateful for all the tools you have given us). But a sincere request for assisting us in using the tools that you have given us.

Edit: by named guides, i am referring to setting the Title field in them.

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steve clark | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Dec 4 2010 1:46 PM

steve clark:
There is no way right now to locate named Bible Word Studies, thus they are lost in the ether of my computer.

Seems that this is working now in the Basic Search under My Content

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Dave Hooton | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Dec 4 2010 9:11 PM

steve clark:
guessing which passage range will intersect to show the contents) is time consuming and frustrating.

This really irks me.

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Robert Pavich | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Dec 5 2010 3:08 AM

I couldn't get this to work for me....

I created two BWS's, named them...and searched for the name I gave them, and even searched for a word that I know was in the title and no joy....

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Dave Hooton | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Dec 5 2010 3:25 AM

It takes time for the document to be indexed - at least 3 minutes. Then I could find my BWS.

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spitzerpl | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Dec 5 2010 3:29 AM

This seems to be a pretty significant oversight. It does no good to be able to save guides without a deliberate way of recalling them in the future. We can work around getting the passage guides to show up (a guide with only My Content showing, for Gen-Rev) but that doesn't work for Bible Word Studies and the solution should not be left up to a work around. I would consider this a significant bug that should receive significant priority.

I would suggest being able to right click on the template name under Guides and an option being available to "List all Saved Guides" made using that template. Additionally, Right clicking on the default "Passage Guide" or "Exegetical Guide" would also display show all saved Passage Based Guides, and clicking on the default "Bible Word Study" would show all saved Word Based guides.

Or simply duplicated the File Tab for the Guides tab. All saved guides are listed on the right and you can limit the list by typing either a template name in the Find box or a word from the title. Of course, I say simply without understanding all that it would involve but this bug does give the impression that things were not thoroughly thought through with regard to saving templates.

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spitzerpl | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Dec 5 2010 3:31 AM

Dave Hooton:

It takes time for the document to be indexed - at least 3 minutes. Then I could find my BWS.

I missed my saved guides at first too until I realized I was supposed to look for the faded "Translation Guide" rather then "Bible Word Study" because that is the name of my custom template.

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Robert Pavich | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Dec 5 2010 4:41 AM

Why not have guides and BWS's show up in the files section like everything else? They are just a sort of search right?

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Robert Pavich | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Dec 5 2010 4:50 AM

One thing that might be useful is to do this:

Title each type of thing; i.e. BWS Passage Guide, Exegetical Guide" with a code in the title so they can be retrieved from a search.

 

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Robert Pavich | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Dec 5 2010 5:08 AM

This idea seems useful if you're compiling info for a sermon and you need to retrieve it...

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Dec 5 2010 11:13 AM

Philip Spitzer:
would suggest being able to right click on the template name under Guides and an option being available to "List all Saved Guides" made using that template. Additionally, Right clicking on the default "Passage Guide" or "Exegetical Guide" would also display show all saved Passage Based Guides, and clicking on the default "Bible Word Study" would show all saved Word Based guides.

Nice solutionYes

I don't think the current method recognizes the volume of Scripture studied in a liturgical church:

  • a traveling priest would have to study about 180 texts for Sunday services only
  • a single priest in a parish offering daily services would study about 1080 more
  • a diligent priest wanting to study the primary reading of the Daily Office would study an additional 700 or so
  • someone involved in service and Bible study planning would probably double this number by including psalmody, other Daily Office readings, antiphons ...

The current structure for finding /opening files doesn't appear to be designed for a base line of nearly 1,300 passage/exegetical guides with special services and occasions + personal study making 2000 or so the norm. Most have passage guides, many have exegetical guides, some have BWS, and, over the space of a few years there are ~800 homilies accumulated against the readings.

Of course I want easy access by Scriptural reference and liturgical date - but for now, I'll settle for easy access.

 

 

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Dave Hooton | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Dec 5 2010 7:23 PM

Philip Spitzer:
This seems to be a pretty significant oversight. It does no good to be able to save guides without a deliberate way of recalling them in the future.

If they are saved by default we need to know what they are. I recently had a passage display in an unfamiliar format. Thinking there was an issue with the template it took a while to realise I had typed the exact passage name of a guide I used 2 months ago with a different template.

Personally, I do not want any Guide to be saved unless I give it a title

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