Determing distances between places

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Steven L. Spencer | Forum Activity | Posted: Sat, Sep 11 2010 11:52 AM

I am having trouble determining distances between various places using logos maps. One tip I had was to put the mouse on one place and press the Ctrrl key and the distance will be shown. This has not worked for me.  Can someone explain how to find the distances between one place and another? Thanks in advance. Steve

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Rosie Perera | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Sep 11 2010 11:56 AM

Hold down the Ctrl key and click on point A; while still holding the Ctrl key, drag the mouse to point B, and you'll see the distance from A to B.

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Steven L. Spencer | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Sep 11 2010 12:05 PM

Rosie, still not working for me. I always appreciate your posts. But your suggestion did not work for me. I, obviously must be doing something wrong.

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Mark Barnes | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Sep 11 2010 12:22 PM

It only works on certain types of maps, unfortunately. It won't work on maps that have come from one of your books, only Logos' own maps. If the book the map is from is listed under it's heading, it won't work, and you'll have to choose a different map (they're usually listed on the left of the choices).

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Steven L. Spencer | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Sep 11 2010 12:35 PM

I am using Logos Deluxe Maps...but still not working. Thanks, Mark. I read both yours and Rosie's posts often.

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Rosie Perera | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Sep 11 2010 12:39 PM

Mark Barnes:
It only works on certain types of maps, unfortunately. It won't work on maps that have come from one of your books, only Logos' own maps.

Also, it doesn't work on the old Logos maps -- the brighter primary-colored lower resolution ones, like this:

It only works on the new ones designed especially for L4 -- the pastel-colored higher resolutions ones, like this:

If you're not sure which kind you're looking at, check to see whether there are Google Maps lat./long. coordinates in the upper right corner in Biblical Places -- that will be an indication you're dealing with one of the new L4 maps:

And perhaps it goes without saying that this feature only works in Biblical Places, not on maps you find as images within other resources, as Mark explained.

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DIsciple II | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Sep 11 2010 1:10 PM

Steven L. Spencer:
I am using Logos Deluxe Maps...

Logos Deluxe Maps are the older style maps that this won't work with that Rosie mentioned in her posts... they've been around since well for a long time so they are old faithfuls that you tend to use reach for , but Maps in Biblical Place are the new Deluxe Maps.

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Rosie Perera | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Sep 11 2010 1:18 PM

Andrew McKenzie:

Steven L. Spencer:
I am using Logos Deluxe Maps...

Logos Deluxe Maps are the older style maps that this won't work with that Rosie mentioned in her posts... they've been around since well for a long time so they are old faithfuls that you tend to use reach for , but Maps in Biblical Place are the new Deluxe Maps.

You also can't zoom in on the old style maps but the new maps are zoomable, and as you zoom in you'll see more detail. This is a close-up of that last one I showed, after I've clicked on "Actual Size":

 You can use the mouse scroll wheel to zoom in/out or if you don't have one of those, you can use Ctrl+Minus and Ctrl-Plus (the =/+ key if you don't have a numeric keypad, without holding down Shift, as I've finally learned!)

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Steven L. Spencer | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Sep 11 2010 2:29 PM

Rosie, I am using the new maps (Bible places) but still can't figure out  how to find the mileage between one place or another.

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steve clark | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Sep 11 2010 2:51 PM

Steven L. Spencer:
I am using the new maps (Bible places) but still can't figure out  how to find the mileage between one place or another.

These Logos4 video will help you with the maps

The last video at about 1 minute and 35 seconds into it will demonstrate how to measure distances.

QLinks, Bibl2, LLR, Macros
Dell Insp 17-5748, i5, 1.7 GHz, 8G RAM, win 8.1

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Robert Pavich | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Sep 11 2010 2:54 PM

I noticed that mine worked differently...

I CTRL+Click in place #1 and WHILE HOLDING DOWN CTRL+CLICK drag to place #2...

Letting up on the left click didn't work.

Robert Pavich

For help go to the Wiki: http://wiki.logos.com/Table_of_Contents__

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DIsciple II | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Sep 11 2010 2:59 PM

Steven L. Spencer:

Rosie, I am using the new maps (Bible places) but still can't figure out  how to find the mileage between one place or another.

Hi Steve,I made a quick video demonstrating the feature and highlighted the point that you need to hold down CTRL key first before pressing you mouse button.  If you press your mouse button first, you are invoking the function to move the map about on your screen.   I also showed in the video how you can tell which maps will allow you to measure distances and which ones don't. 

Hope this clarifies things more you.  I found it a little bit tricky when first learning to use this feature.

http://screencast.com/t/MTY0ZjFiNGY

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Mark Barnes | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Sep 11 2010 3:27 PM

Steven L. Spencer:
I am using the new maps (Bible places) but still can't figure out  how to find the mileage between one place or another.

Biblical Places will show all your maps, including your Logos Deluxe Maps. If your map looks like the one Rosie showed, CTRL+CLICK will work. If it doesn't look like that, it won't.

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Steven L. Spencer | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Sep 12 2010 6:08 AM

Thanks, Andrew and everyone. This feature is simply not working on my lap-top. I'll try it on my desk-top and see if it works using a mouse.

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Rosie Perera | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Sep 12 2010 9:36 AM

Steven L. Spencer:

Thanks, Andrew and everyone. This feature is simply not working on my lap-top. I'll try it on my desk-top and see if it works using a mouse.

Very odd.

Just out of curiosity, is the other "mouse" action for maps working on your laptop? Can you click (without the Ctrl key) and drag to scroll around in the map when it is zoomed in? Does Ctrl+Click work in other capacities (i.e., can you select multiple non-adjacent books in your Library by Ctrl+Clicking on them one at a time)? If the feature works on your desktop with a mouse, can you try plugging the mouse into your laptop and see if it works with an actual mouse as opposed to the touchpad?

EDIT: Also, out of a loss of other ideas, I'd also suggest you try updating to the latest version of the driver for your touchpad, and see if that helps.

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James R. Adams | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Oct 11 2010 4:10 PM

Steven - did you ever figure this out? I cannot get this to work on my MacBook using an apple mouse. Control + click opens the standard contextual menu. If I do it on a city or place name it gives my the popup to choose Biblical Places or one of my dictionaries. If I control + click (or right click) on a "blank" area of the map, it gives me the standard "Copy/Save As/Print/Send to KeyNote" options. 

And... I am using the proper maps with coordinates in upper right, etc.

I am using 4.0a SR-1

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Rosie Perera | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Oct 11 2010 4:31 PM

James R. Adams:
Steven - did you ever figure this out? I cannot get this to work on my MacBook using an apple mouse. Control + click opens the standard contextual menu. If I do it on a city or place name it gives my the popup to choose Biblical Places or one of my dictionaries. If I control + click (or right click) on a "blank" area of the map, it gives me the standard "Copy/Save As/Print/Send to KeyNote" options. 

Have you tried Command+Click? That is the Mac equivalent to Windows Ctrl+Click. Don't use the Mac Contrlol key which means something different. It never occurred to me that the original poster might have been using a Mac too, since this was posted in the main Logos 4 forum. So if that's the case, then try Cmd-Click insteadl of Ctrl-Click.

(Thanks to Smiling for Jesus for this graphic, copied from another thread.)

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Steven L. Spencer | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Oct 11 2010 4:31 PM

No, James, I never did figure it out. Let me know if you are able to figure it out. Blessings, Steve

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James R. Adams:

I cannot get this to work on my MacBook using an apple mouse.

An expert Mac user may be able to correct me on this point, but I don't believe that there's a way to use the Ctrl+Click distance measuring if you're running the Windows version of Logos 4 under Parallels/Fusion on Mac (because of the way the emulator treats the Ctrl key).

You would have to either use Boot Camp (so that you're running Windows directly on the hardware), or use the Mac version of Logos 4 (assuming it supports a similar shortcut key in Biblical Places).

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James R. Adams | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Oct 12 2010 11:11 AM

Hi again, Rosie!

I sure thought I had tried the command/click combination. In fact, I know I tried many combinations of modifier keys + click. But obviously, somehow I didn't.

Command + click works. And now I am in geographical bliss...

Observation: The new ambidextrous Logos is a wonderful blessing. But sometimes even blessings generate new challenges. The issue we have now is that we must be "bi-lingual" in English. When someone switches from English to Spanish, that's easy for me. But with the current (unpredictable) mix of Mac-speak and Windows-speak in Logos tutorials etc., it sometimes get's confusing! (Or at least, I get confused. Maybe it's just me!)

BTW: Steven, if command/click doesn't work for you then something else very weird is going on.

Thanks again, Rosie.

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