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Denise | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Mar 6 2018 4:14 PM

I’m seeing several cards in his hands. Carta, 2 Tov criticals, and a NETS. Why not dream?


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DAL | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Mar 6 2018 6:36 PM

Phil Gons (Faithlife):

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Rick Ausdahl | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Mar 7 2018 9:27 AM

I currently own a print copy of Carta's New Century Handbook and Atlas of the Bible (the condensed version of The Sacred Bridge), and I have a couple of questions regarding these two resources.

Before buying the condensed version, I tried to compare it with the Sacred Bridge.  I found very little info in that regard, but got the impression that at least one primary difference was that the Sacred Bridge had a lot of original language textual material that was not in the condensed version.  I figured I could do without that because I have no training in the original languages.  But I couldn't determine if there was much in the way of other content in the Sacred Bridge that is missing in the condensed version that I might find interesting.

So here are my questions.

1) CONTENT COMPARISON

If you own (or have perused) both resources, is there much more left out of the condensed version than just the original language content?  If so, can you comment on the nature of the additional content that's missing in the condensed version?  As a lay-person without original language training, I'm just trying to determine if there is much in the way of other additional content in the Sacred Bridge that might make it worth purchasing even though I have the condensed version in print.

2) DIGITAL VS PRINT COMPARISON

Regardless of which version you have worked with (Sacred Bridge or New Century Handbook and Atlas of the Bible), if you've worked with both digital and print formats, what do you feel are the pros and cons of each.

By the same token, if you've only worked with one format, what do you like about it and what would you like to see changed.

Any input you can share will be appreciated.

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Denise | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Mar 7 2018 9:44 AM

I guess you’re not interested in the whole enchilada? (March Mapness).

Strictly print vs digital:

1. High-res

2. Search strange places.

3. Fits in my purse. I love to read it, at random times.


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Rick Ausdahl | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Mar 7 2018 4:51 PM

Denise:

I guess you’re not interested in the whole enchilada? (March Mapness).

Strictly print vs digital:

1. High-res

2. Search strange places.

3. Fits in my purse. I love to read it, at random times.

Thanks for sharing your thoughts, Denise!

I am interested in the whole enchilada--I'm just getting a couple of ingredients at a time.  Fortunately, I already have some of the ingredients from prior purchases so I'm just focusing on these two right now.  Smile

Personally, I tend to prefer the digital format for some of the same reasons you gave.  But I can see how these two resources could really lend themselves to sharing with extended family members, which is one of the reasons for my interest in the print format.   However, even in regard to my personal preference for the digital format, the physical size of these resources in the print format is so large (especially Sacred Bridge), I've wondered how well the pages have been modified for presentation in the digital format.

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Danny Zacharias | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Mar 7 2018 4:54 PM

It is officially time to hit the "stop emailing replies to me button" — the first time I've ever had to do so on a Logos thread  :-)

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Rick Ausdahl | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Mar 7 2018 5:18 PM

Danny Zacharias:

It is officially time to hit the "stop emailing replies to me button" — the first time I've ever had to do so on a Logos thread  :-)

Sorry my post was your last straw, Danny.  Embarrassed

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DAL | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Mar 7 2018 5:22 PM

I did that years ago when I realized how much people participated on the forums!

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Rick Ausdahl | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Mar 10 2018 6:12 AM

Phil Gons (Faithlife):

Our team is meeting with their team next week, so we should have some clarity coming out of that meeting.

Faithlife ...do we have any clarity yet regarding the possibility of having the Carta resources in Logos?

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Bruce Dunning | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Mar 10 2018 6:21 AM

Rick Ausdahl:

Phil Gons (Faithlife):

Our team is meeting with their team next week, so we should have some clarity coming out of that meeting.

Faithlife ...do we have any clarity yet regarding the possibility of having the Carta resources in Logos?

That's a fair question at this point. Phil made his post on February 21st and the end of "next week" would be March 4th (10 days later) and it is now March 10th (one week after "next week").

At the same time I think we need to give Faithlife time for due process. We must be patient (and I choose to be hopeful! Smile)

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Denise | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Mar 10 2018 7:49 AM

I can't imagine FL ever saying no-can-do. At least I can't remember one. Almost always silence of the lambs, or someone notices a prepub. Two choices.


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DAL | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Mar 10 2018 12:25 PM

Denise:

I can't imagine FL ever saying no-can-do. At least I can't remember one. Almost always silence of the lambs, or someone notices a prepub. Two choices.

Well, they said, “We can’t at this time,” when Moody left. Maybe they can drop by and say the same for the CARTA negotiations, because, honestly, I’m starting to feel bad and sorry for those who are waiting. This situation is getting kind of pathetic, I don’t care how optimistic or hopeful they want to get.

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Bruce Dunning | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Mar 10 2018 12:55 PM

DAL:
This situation is getting kind of pathetic, I don’t care how optimistic or hopeful they want to get.

My guess is that you might label me as the "they" among the "optimistic/hopeful". I kind of like that label. Smile

Meanwhile my optimist continues.

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DAL | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Mar 10 2018 1:04 PM

Bruce Dunning:

DAL:
This situation is getting kind of pathetic, I don’t care how optimistic or hopeful they want to get.

My guess is that you might label me as the "they" among the "optimistic/hopeful". I kind of like that label. Smile

Meanwhile my optimist continues.

You know what I mean Bruce. The point is, if FL can’t pull off a deal with CARTA, then they should just say so. No shame in admitting they ”No-can-do.”

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Bruce Dunning | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Mar 10 2018 1:56 PM

DAL:
You know what I mean Bruce.

Yes I do DAL. I was just joking with you.

DAL:
The point is, if FL can’t pull off a deal with CARTA, then they should just say so.

I totally expect them to respond here and have no doubt that they will.

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PetahChristian | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Mar 10 2018 1:59 PM
DAL:
This situation is getting kind of pathetic, I don’t care how optimistic or hopeful they want to get.

Through the centuries, Christians have been optimistic and hopeful and patient.

Do you honestly believe it's unfortunate or sad or pathetic to have to wait for something, and to not give up hope?

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DAL | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Mar 10 2018 5:16 PM

PetahChristian:
DAL:
This situation is getting kind of pathetic, I don’t care how optimistic or hopeful they want to get.

Through the centuries, Christians have been optimistic and hopeful and patient.

Do you honestly believe it's unfortunate or sad or pathetic to have to wait for something, and to not give up hope?

Yes, Because the hope is different! The Christian’s hope is not based on negotiations between FL and CARTA publishers. I can’t believe you even dared to compare the two! My Christian hope is objective and is not about having a particular resource in Logos, is about going to heaven; worldly hope (e.g. CARTA being published in Logos) is subjective and my “happiness” is dependent upon what those two decide.

So yes, I believe it’s unfortunate, sad AND pathetic that you are still waiting on this deal to get done after so many years. Whether it gets done or not, just know you were hoping on something that is uncertain and not on something that is certain — i.e., the Christian‘s hope of salvation.

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Rick Ausdahl | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Mar 10 2018 6:00 PM

My hunch is we haven't heard yet for one of four reasons.  In worst-case to best-case scenario order, that would be:

  1. Negotiations failed and Faithlife is understandably not eager to post the fact.
  2. Negotiations had to be postponed and the Faithlife staff have been too busy/preoccupied with other things to mention it.
  3. Negotiations didn't go well enough to clinch the deal, but well enough to plan on another meeting, so nothing definite to report.
  4. Negotiations were successful but Faithlife doesn't want to deal with the flood of expected questions until finished with March Madness.

I suppose it could also be that Carta has reasons for wanting to control when negotiation results are announced.  I was just curious as I'm contemplating a Carta purchase and thought it would be nice to know if it would be worth waiting for availability in Logos.  I didn't mean to stir the pot.

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PetahChristian | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Mar 10 2018 6:10 PM

DAL:
Yes, Because the hope is different!

There is a difference between hoping for a certainty and hoping for an uncertainty? While the outcome might differ, I don't think hope itself is different.

Are we meant to have an optimistic nature for things that are more likely and a pessimistic nature for things that are less likely?

DAL:
I can’t believe you even dared to compare the two!

The things that shock one of us, DAL, may or may not shock the other. While we are all different/unique, we are still loved.

DAL:
So yes, I believe it’s unfortunate, sad AND pathetic that you are still waiting on this deal to get done after so many years.

I still want to wait on this deal to get done, and hope for the best.

I am mindful of our failures in encouraging one another and building one another up.

I wish we were already more like Christ, and could regard others as better than ourselves.

I am thankful that He sees us differently than we see ourselves or each other.

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DAL | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Mar 10 2018 6:27 PM

PetahChristian and the more optimistic and hopeful ones:

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#IhopeYouGetYourWish

#LetGod’sWillBeDone

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