After preaching on Sunday, anyone have the Monday "blues?"

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DominicM | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Dec 19 2010 11:57 AM

The thing I struggle with is after the service where I get told "Thank you for that message, Brother", I kind of want the ground to open up and swallow me as I  never know how to respond..

I am happy being a conduit/mouthpiece, yes I prepare the message the best I can as God enables, but I never view the message as mine, but I am just the messenger God chose to use to deliver  it...

If anyone else struggles with this aspect, and has coping mechanisms please let me know.

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fgh | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Dec 19 2010 12:06 PM

I haven't heard about this problem before, but it sounds to me like much of it is simple human biology. First your bodies get 'high' on adrenaline and all sorts of stress hormones (possibly boosted with some other hormones to deal with sleep deprivation, and some chocolate or other food that affects the mood), and then when you're done it all rushes off and you suffer a kind of 'abstinence' reaction, suddenly having to deal with reality without all those extra chemicals. Perfectly natural, but probably not all that healthy in the long run.

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Rich DeRuiter | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Dec 19 2010 2:29 PM

DominicM:
The thing I struggle with is after the service where I get told "Thank you for that message, Brother", I kind of want the ground to open up and swallow me as I  never know how to respond..

I used to be really bothered by that too. It was like, "Hey, God's supposed to get the glory. Not me."

But now I hear it differently. Most often someone just wants to express their appreciation for what they heard, so they thank the one who brought the message. So now I say "You're welcome," and accept thanks for whatever small part I played in bringing the message. Then I add (for folks I know well) "Thank the Lord." I don't add that as a corrective, just as an additional comment, a reminder to pray for the preacher, and thank the Lord for answered prayers. This lets me be gracious to the intent of the listener's heart, and turns their attention back to the One who's message it was (at least we hope it's His message!).

When I hear a good message, I often want to thank the one who delivered it too. Even when I know the messenger is merely human, I still appreciate what it takes to put together and deliver a message that's meaningful and fruit-bearing week after week. When I express my gratitude, I don't want my gratitude corrected. So when someone thanks me, I want to be as gracious to them as I want the preacher to be to me when I thank him/her.

The Lord and I have had long talks about this, and the above is where I'm at today.

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Bob Schlessman | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Dec 19 2010 2:40 PM

Steven L. Spencer:

In all the 30 plus years I have preached, Sunday highs are met by Monday lows--often times severe.  Just wondering if other preachers go through this experience. And if you have found something that makes Monday's easier to bear with.

I haven't experienced this myself Steven, but I do as Richard does and I take Monday off from pastoral work, unless an emergency comes up. I spend time cleaning house (my wife works full time too), working on hobbies, balancing the checkbook and even on occasion substitute teaching at the high school. Like Rosie, I don't reflect on my sermon or Sunday school lesson and I too do not listen to my own sermons until many months afterward. I still spend time in the Word and prayer each morning even on Mondays. My low day seems to be Saturday, usually because I am trying to wrap up things and the interruptions are numerous.

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Bill Anderson | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Dec 19 2010 4:20 PM

fgh:

I haven't heard about this problem before, but it sounds to me like much of it is simple human biology. First your bodies get 'high' on adrenaline and all sorts of stress hormones (possibly boosted with some other hormones to deal with sleep deprivation, and some chocolate or other food that affects the mood), and then when you're done it all rushes off and you suffer a kind of 'abstinence' reaction, suddenly having to deal with reality without all those extra chemicals. Perfectly natural, but probably not all that healthy in the long run.

Biology may be part of it, but pastors pour so much of themselves into their preaching. They think about their people all week long when they are preparing their message and they think of them as they are delivering it. They wrestle with the text, with God about the text and with what he wants to say through them. They work hard to find illustrations and craft the message. They remain open to what God wants to say as they climb in the pulpit and even during the delivery. There are lots of dynamics in play. I have done a lot of public speaking after having been a pastor and it is nothing like preaching. Preaching truly is a labor of love

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Daniel Bender | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Dec 19 2010 7:02 PM

Tom Blanchard:
I've frequently found Mondays, sometimes even Tuesdays, to be very black. Part of it is just me and the way I'm wired. But we do get pretty emotionally, and sometimes spiritually, empty. A bricklayer can see what he's accomplished. We can't. But we have the Lord's promises to bless His Word, in His timing and in His way.

I do think part of it is the way you're wired. I'm an insulin dependent diabetic and think that my sugars play apart in my mood swings. When I was in my mid 30s my pancreas stopped producing insulin (at that time I was in good physical condition and the doctor was at a loss to explain my sudden condition); it's brought some complications with my energy level as well (though I am now in my early 50s). I work a part time job and have to go to work Monday morning. My let down usually occurs Sunday night. 

EDIT: Others have mentioned having trouble with headaches. I usually have severe headaches as well--usually wake up with them on Monday. They last all day long. I think I's addicted to Excedrin Sad

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Floyd Johnson | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Dec 19 2010 7:11 PM

My solution, ask my wife how I did.  She never tells the truth and always says, "It was great!" Smile

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Steve Johnson | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Dec 19 2010 7:21 PM

Floyd Johnson:

My solution, ask my wife how I did.  She never tells the truth and always says, "It was great!" Smile

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James Matichuk | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Dec 19 2010 7:37 PM

I tend to ride on Sunday's sermon at least until Tuesday, if it goes well. 

The only way I can find to measure if it goes well is by the quality of conversations which my sermon generates. If someone says, "great sermon," I don't feel particularly encouraged, but if they start a discussion where  they were challenged in their theology and praxis by what I said, I tend to not get the blues too quickly. 

But I know great preachers with great messages who leave church and feel like they just blew it.  

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TCBlack | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Dec 19 2010 8:15 PM

Steven L. Spencer:

In all the 30 plus years I have preached, Sunday highs are met by Monday lows--often times severe.  Just wondering if other preachers go through this experience. And if you have found something that makes Monday's easier to bear with.

Yes.  Every Monday at least and as others have stated, Sunday afternoon as well; then I have to gear up for a Sunday Evening service too.

Garrett nailed it earlier: Medically speaking it's called PAD Post Adrenaline Depression.  There's nothing wrong with you.  :-)  At least nothing wrong with you that isn't wrong with me.  :-)

Monday's are made easier for me by a significant bit of exercise.  I'm a runner and my "strides" workout (30-45 minute run with the middle punctuated by 10 "all out" sprints with 1 minute recoveries) reserved for Mondays.  I hate strides but the workout does wonders for my attitude.

DominicM:

The thing I struggle with is after the service where I get told "Thank you for that message, Brother", I kind of want the ground to open up and swallow me as I  never know how to respond..

I am happy being a conduit/mouthpiece, yes I prepare the message the best I can as God enables, but I never view the message as mine, but I am just the messenger God chose to use to deliver  it...

If anyone else struggles with this aspect, and has coping mechanisms please let me know.

Years ago Dominic I heard Howard Hendricks call that the "Glorify the worm Ceremony"  I was so stricken I went back to our church and explained that I would be available after the service but would not be rushing to the back to shake everyone's hand.  Now a number of years later I still end the service by picking up my Bible and notes and chatting with anyone who comes towards the platform to talk about the message.   1) Nobody has to lie and say "great sermon pastor" 2) the incidence of hearing "Great God we serve pastor" has increased. Every week, one saint in particular says to me, "Thank you pastor for explaining God's word to me."   I thank God for her.

 

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Ron Corbett | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Dec 19 2010 9:06 PM

Floyd Johnson:

My solution, ask my wife how I did.  She never tells the truth and always says, "It was great!" Smile

Can't resist ... " An old retired Preacher happened to wander up to the attic of the house he had shared with his beloved wife for so many years of their ministry together. He couldn't remember the last time he had been up there ... so many memories were rekindled as he looked around at all the things she had neatly stored away. But then he saw an old egg carton. He picked it up and inside there were two eggs and a few large rolls of 10 dollar bills. He brought it downstairs and set it on the table in front of his wife. He asked her about these two eggs. She told him that every time he preached a bad sermon she put an egg in the carton. He said nothing, but inwardly he beamed thinking "after all these years - only two eggs". So then he asked her about the rolls of 10's. "Oh that" she said. " Well, whenever I filled a carton full of eggs, I sold it and kept the cash in there."

[Not mine, maybe someone knows where this came from]

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Dec 20 2010 2:32 AM

DominicM:
I am happy being a conduit/mouthpiece, yes I prepare the message the best I can as God enables, but I never view the message as mine, but I am just the messenger God chose to use to deliver  it...

I was taught that the greatest compliment one can get is someone referencing your sermon as life-changing and not remembering who gave the sermon.

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Dec 20 2010 2:41 AM

Carmen Gauvin-O'Donnell:
What a fascinating question/topic! I must ask my pastor that if I think of it...

I know my pastor's response ... he's only responsible every third Sunday (6 services) but he's responsible for 4-5 weekday sermons. And one day a week he is obligated to spend in study.

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Tom Norton | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Dec 20 2010 3:27 AM

I agree with the post adrenaline depression and the spiritual battle that Satan and his minions are seeking to bring against our souls. My favorite thing to do is go riding my motorcycle up in the hills or ride to a lake and sit and read some Scripture and meditate.

I tried Mondays off and had to quit as I didn't do well at taking the day off as well as trying to spend time with my wife since the rest of the week is so busy. With finishing up my doctorate these last several years, I have had to skip having a day off many weeks which was not very good for me or for my family. Having started it 20 years ago, however, I needed to finish it up. What I have done is get the week started Mondays by doing the necessary stuff with mail, getting a start on my next week's sermon text overview, and try to meet with disciples. Usually, I am energized by people in rather than by tasks. If I am not going to do much well, I didn't need to take a terrible day off just to get it over (and my wife didn't want me around the house either!).

I take Fridays off as I have the week's work well done (outline done just about every week, class assignments done for the week for the most part) and can relax for the push for Sunday. I finish up my sermon ppt on Sat. night if it is not done yet and go over my sermon and pray early Sunday morning.

My wife and I have been able to enjoy a day/part of a day without pressure and usually without a call as the church has known that is my day off.

The good news is our Sabbath rest is coming and in the presence of the Lord is the fullness of joy, fellow undershepherds.


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Greg Corbin | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Dec 20 2010 9:08 AM

Steven,

   After 18 years of a preaching ministry, I certainly can relate to you and the others on here. Personally, after preaching on Sunday I do not take Monday as a day off for two basic reaons: 1) I don't want to feel that bad on my day off!  2) I have found that Mondays are a difficult day to protect for a pastor as you always find out things on Sunday that you need to respond to on Monday. For me personally on Monday, I try to get out of the office to make visits, get out and see people, schedule lunch with someone who had needed to see me or I need to see, etc. etc. It's also a great time to have lunch with a friend or a neighboring pastor. It's also not a sin to go home a little early on a Monday Smile

  As to making Monday's easier to bear, I have found that Monday is a great day to go to a park or the woods with my Bible and be quiet and alone before the Lord for a while. Also, if you do not have Spurgeon's Lectures to My Students, the chapter on "The Minister's Fainting Fits" is worth the price of the book. Some of the greatest men of God (like Spurgeon) struggled mightily with discouragement and even depression.

  Preaching is a "heart" event in that you pour your heart into it. The best preachers are passionate. However, when you pour yourself into preaching, then you empty yourself as well. Have to make sure you are refilling week to week!  That is one of the greatest struggles in ministry for me personally.

 

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Graham Owen | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Dec 20 2010 9:54 AM

Daniel Bender:
I do think part of it is the way you're wired

Totally agree, the Monday Blues is a not a frequent phenomenon for me I tend to find that the blues occur randomly and are often associated with physical tiredness when I have less energy to bounce back. I know that the "blues", and other "attacks", are a form of discouragement initiated by the principalities and powers that we wrestle with. My understanding is that our spiritual enemies attacks us in areas or at times of weakness so we therefore need to learn how to effectively defend ourselves from these attacks.

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Kaye Anderson | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Dec 20 2010 10:12 AM

I love you guys!  I am trying to find a church to attend now, after YEARS of not having one, and I hope wherever I end up the pastor gives as much of himself as all of you do.

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DominicM | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Dec 20 2010 12:34 PM

MJ. Smith:

I was taught that the greatest compliment one can get is someone referencing your sermon as life-changing and not remembering who gave the sermon.

That my hope as well..

Thomas Black:
Now a number of years later I still end the service by picking up my Bible and notes and chatting with anyone who comes towards the platform to talk about the message.


Thanks Thomas, this will be helpful, although some of the places I preach are very traditional with that "ceremony".. will try to avoid it (If I can) ..

Richard DeRuiter:


I want to be as gracious to them as I want the preacher to be to me when I thank him/her.



Thanks Richard, hadn't really considered that aspect..

 

Am glad there are those, more mature in the faith, further down the road encouraging us on, thank you

 

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DominicM | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Dec 20 2010 12:39 PM

Kaye Anderson:

I love you guys!  I am trying to find a church to attend now, after YEARS of not having one, and I hope wherever I end up the pastor gives as much of himself as all of you do.

K

Will be praying you find a place to meet with your fellow believers, where you can be encouraged, and encourage others, may our gracious Saviour lead you to the right place in His body, when you can produce much frut.

 

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nicky crane | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Dec 20 2010 2:27 PM

I don't preach, but I teach:  women, children and, occasionally men (enquirers).  I'm shattered after each session, whether it's gone well or badly.  And sometimes I haVE bad sleepless nights, sometimes til 3 or 4 a.m. or even later, particularly before the children's group, where we often have problems with those who come and often worse problems with those we have temporarily banned, who make a noise outside.  I haven't found a solution.  Incidentally I have always felt drained after church, tho it's years since I've preached.  I think part of it is adrenaline  and feeling drained after giving out, and partly that the adversary wants to give us a rough ride if we are doing things he doesn't like.  I take Tuesday off and tend to do nothing, which leaves me more exhausted than ever next daY...  So tonight, Monday Evening, I can go to bed as late as I like because it doesn't matter when I wake up tomorrow. 

I find Bible study exciting, and Logos helps me understand it better.  I also find the Logos Prayer Lists help me pray more systematically.

Even Jesus got drained, e.g. when healing.  We have a far less close relationship with the Giver of Strength than he did, so are bound to get drained far more quickly. 

Pastors, if you feel guilty about having the blues, the adversary will be rubbing his claws together in glee - don't give him that satisfaction!

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