Logos 4 for Mac Alpha 1 Now Available
The first alpha of the Mac version of Logos 4 is now available. If you're in the Windows private beta program and have a Mac, we encourage you to download and test out our first alpha. Please provide all feedback on the Mac version in this new Mac beta forum. And please remember that the terms of the NDA apply to Logos 4 for Mac as well.
http://downloads.logos.com/LBS4/LBS4MacInstallerBeta/4.0.3.2012/Logos4Mac.dmg (47.5MB)
Keep in mind that this is Alpha 1, which means there are lots of missing features and plenty of bugs. 
Automatic updating of the app and resources is in place, so as new builds are available, you'll get them automatically.
Note: You will need to have version 1 of Logos for Mac installed on your machine to have access to your resources. The current build doesn't yet download missing resources from the server. That functionality will be added in a future build.
Thanks for your help testing Logos 4 for Mac!
Phil
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Phil,
You make me happy. Are you trying to win my favorite person of the year award with this? Downloading now.
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Phil,
What is the best way to get my resources on my Mac for a first time install? Can I use the windows DVD or will they be downloaded after install of the Mac beta based on my License?
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Bob Soule said:
Phil,
What is the best way to get my resources on my Mac for a first time install? Can I use the windows DVD or will they be downloaded after install of the Mac beta based on my License?
It's not possible in Alpha 1 to do a fresh install of Logos 4 for Mac and get your resources to show up. You must first install Logos for Mac 1 and copy your resources locally and then install Logos 4 for Mac.
If you don't have access to version 1, then your only option is to wait until we add this functionality in a future alpha.
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One quick note: The current build has a bug on Snow Leopard (Mac OS 10.6) where the close icons are not evident when tabs are opened. We are working on a fix and hope to post an update in a day or two.
Mobile Development Team Lead
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One more thing. You can use Cmd-W to close tabs on Snow Leopard.
Mobile Development Team Lead
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Downloaded and installed but what are the updates it's trying to grab? Additional resources? It says downloading 3.1 GB but it's reporting 0% downloaded and I haven't seen it advance past 0% in the 45 min or so that it's been running.
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Mike Aubrey said:
any comments on hardware requirements?
We plan to have a FAQ up tomorrow that will include, among other things, system requirements.
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Till the FAQ is up, at a very minimum:
- Mac OS 10.5.8 or later
- Intel only (PowerPC is not supported)
- 1 GB RAM
- 8 GB hard drive space
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Have fun guys. I enjoyed the Windows beta, but finding and reporting every bug, feature request, etc. is tiring. It will be nice to be able to just use the program and focus on nice things about it (and there are many) for a while (or forget the program altogether and just study without reporting issues). It is hard to believe you will be starting at the beginning again. Hopefully the Logos programmers will get some sort of break before this beta moves into full swing.
www.3rdcultureliving.com - Simple Abundant Legacy
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Updates never did start downloading for me last night but they are now successfully downloading.
Initial impression with the program: I'm quite pleased with the direction of things. Recognizing that this is Alpha 1, I will wait a while before bothering to mention things that are missing.
But I do have some initial suggestions/questions.Tabs: Could these be enabled as tear-away tabs? I never thought to suggest this for the Windows version but I'm so used to tear-away Safari tabs I found myself immediately trying to tear-away Logos tabs.
That is, click a tab and drag it outside the application will automatically turn it into a floating window (which I see isn't in place yet).Resizing: Okay, this is a comment on something missing, but the bottom right corner of the window probably should have something to indicate it is the resize corner, though most Mac users will know this already
More button: The More button for passage guide sections and such is a little clunky looking, IMO. Just a text, bolded and underlined or some such, would look better methinks.
Public beta: When Logos 4 for PC is released, will the Mac version stay private or will it be opened up like the 1.0 beta was? When the PC version is released will we still be bound by the NDA for the Mac version?
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Alpha 1 can pull resources off of the Windows DVD (if it is inserted when you first run the program), and it can also download resources from the web.
David Mitchell
Development Lead
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Chris Roberts said:
Public beta: When Logos 4 for PC is released, will the Mac version stay private or will it be opened up like the 1.0 beta was? When the PC version is released will we still be bound by the NDA for the Mac version?
When the Windows product goes live, the Mac product will enter a public beta (alpha).
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ugh... I got so excited to downoad, that I did not read it. [:$]Mike Aubrey said:see the post above:
"Mac OS 10.5.8 or later"
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Joe,
Just accept fate. It's time to upgrade.
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Start a Paypal fund. I'll throw in $5 to Bring Joe Up-to-Date!
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Mike,
Snow Leopard (10.6) is only reduced for Leopard (10.5) users. Tiger (10.4) users pay the full price for a new OS. I'm not entirely sure how this would work since they don't offer a non-upgrade version except for the Box Set ($169) which includes iLife and iWork. A nice package, but not if you're a Tiger user who only wants Snow Leopard. Because of that I would tend to think (along with many others) that it's probably acceptable for a Tiger user to go ahead and buy Snow Leopard. IMO. Maybe.
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I'm only a mac guy in my spare time -- i.e. when I'm helping my wife with her computer. Thanks for the info. That's too bad. Apple just lost a point or two in my mind for that one.
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Mike,
It makes sense. OS X is quite a bit cheaper than the cheapest version of Windows. Snow Leopard is not a major upgrade from Leopard but it is a major upgrade from Tiger. Normally a copy of OS X costs around $129 (IIRC) so $30 is quite the discount and breaks from Apple's normal modus operandi. That means even the Snow Leopard box set is quite a deal at present.
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And W7 is a major upgrade from XP, but students can still receive the upgrade price of $30.
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Mike,
Students can. Microsoft is good about giving good deals to students. But the rest of the world gets no such break. To upgrade my Home Premium Vista to Win 7 would cost me a jolly $117, not something I'm willing to do any time soon, particularly since, unlike most people, I think Vista is a pretty good OS. But everyone has access to the $30 Snow Leopard "upgrade".
One difference as well, Microsoft has required upgrade versions be installed on machines with older or current versions of the OS. In the past you could stick in a CD with an old version of Windows and the installer would proceed. With Vista the OS had to actually be installed first, which made things annoying when trying for a clean install. I assume things are similar with Win 7.
The Snow Leopard upgrade does no verification whatsoever. The DVD contains a full copy of Snow Leopard and does not check to see if you actually have any other copy of OS X.
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Point take.
FYI though - you should be able to do a clean install if you choose "custom" - even with the upgrade.
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Chris Roberts said:
It says downloading 3.1 GB
Oh no not again ...
David Mitchell said:Alpha 1 can pull resources off of the Windows DVD (if it is inserted when you first run the program), and it can also download resources from the web.
What about pulling resources from the Windows Beta (assuming that the resource files are the same) ... if we could copy across our networks rather than challenge the wrath of out friendly neighbourhood ISP ...BTW. Logos 4 for Mac ... yeah ! my new mac is coming in the new year, and my wife can then have her mac back again [;)]2017 15" MBP, iPad Pro
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