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William | Forum Activity | Posted: Fri, Jan 21 2011 9:43 PM

Ok,

This is not officially Logos but I am trying to get some vocabulary words from my Hebrew Grammar that is in Logos onto some labels.  I will peel them from the page and stick them on a 3x5 card as flash cards.  However, I can not figure out how to do it.  Anyone with open office that can help? 

I think my labels are Avery 3153's.  I have not found it in the list but have formated them properly and have typed and printed 33 of them but can't go to next page......don't want to start over and just create the next 33 of them because I will lose the first 33 of them. 

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Rich DeRuiter | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jan 21 2011 10:25 PM

William Bingham:

Ok,

This is not officially Logos but I am trying to get some vocabulary words from my Hebrew Grammar that is in Logos onto some labels.  I will peel them from the page and stick them on a 3x5 card as flash cards.  However, I can not figure out how to do it.  Anyone with open office that can help? 

I think my labels are Avery 3153's.  I have not found it in the list but have formated them properly and have typed and printed 33 of them but can't go to next page......don't want to start over and just create the next 33 of them because I will lose the first 33 of them. 

Is your issue copy/pasting Hebrew from Logos, or printing labels in OO?

If it's the latter, you may want to take this up in an OO forum. Or, find a defined Avery Label that's the same size as the one you're using. Or, print it out on regular paper, hold it up to the light and see how it lines up.

 Help links: WIKI;  Logos 6 FAQ. (Phil. 2:14, NIV)

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Rosie Perera | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jan 21 2011 11:48 PM

William Bingham:

I think my labels are Avery 3153's.  I have not found it in the list but have formated them properly and have typed and printed 33 of them but can't go to next page......don't want to start over and just create the next 33 of them because I will lose the first 33 of them. 

I don't know Open Office, but I've printed formatted stuff from Word onto Avery perforated card stock. I should think that would be a lot less time consuming than peeling the labels off and sticking them on 3x5 cards. But then again if you've already got the Avery labels and the file cards, then I suppose it might be quicker to do what you're doing than go out shopping again.

I'm not sure why you'd need to "start over and just create the next 33 of them" or why you would "lose the first 33 of them." Don't you have the first 33 of them in a one-page document that is saved on your hard disk? Can't you just insert a page break at the end of the document, copy/paste the table of cards from page 1 to the new page (so you get the layout right) and delete the text in all the table cells and replace them with the next set of 33 words? Or better yet, copy the blank table and paste it multiple times on several pages so that you're all set up to enter new words without having to delete the old ones.

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Fred Chapman | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jan 22 2011 5:35 AM

If you are interested in electronic flash cards you may want to check out a free flash card program called CueCard. http://wadeb.com/cuecard/

 

 

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spitzerpl | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jan 22 2011 5:52 AM

I can't really speak about OpenOffice but my understanding is that it matches most of the Word features. In Word I would us the Mail Merge feature to do this. I would create a two or three column Excel File (Greek, Definition, frequency). save it, and then use that file to mail merge in Word.

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Ken F Hill | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jan 22 2011 6:13 AM

William Bingham:
don't want to start over and just create the next 33 of them because I will lose the first 33 of them

If you don't find a more elegant solution, you could copy the file and have a series of files instead of one larger file -- eg, verbs1, verbs2, ...

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nicky crane | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jan 22 2011 6:52 AM

I print small cards on to an A4 card and cut it with a guillotine.

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TCBlack | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jan 22 2011 6:53 AM

Unless I'm mistaken William, OOo uses an array of text frames for labels.  It's horrible for more than one page, even with USER/Continuous as the setting you cannot expand them in any way I've found.

Your best bet is to go to a blank document and create a TABLE containing properly sized frames and borders.  Once that is set, it's a simple matter of adding rows to the table.

You can accomplish the same, much easier I might add in the spreadsheet.

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William | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jan 22 2011 7:14 AM

Richard,

In response to your reply, I am good with everything that you are mentioning.

Rosie,

Yes, I have bought a while back.....a box of these avery labels and they will collect to much dust if I don't use them.  It is cheaper to try to use what I have as opposed to buy something new.  I also bought an extreme amount of index cards a few years back when I was teaching.  It would be good for me to use some of them.    I would love to add a "new page" break....cant seem to find that command.  I am using labels not a table.  I might spend some more time with that option.  I did start to play with that last night but again......not really able to get it to do what I wanted....

Fred,

Thanks for that program.  That might work out for me.  It allows me to print the things.  I might just look around for some more programs like that. 

 

Phil,

yes, that is exactly what I was considering.  I did not spend the time trying to mail merge thus far.  I might do that as well. 

 

Ken,

I started to do that but thought, no, I will ask on the Logos forums for users of open office. 

 

Nicky, I think that will take me a little longer to do since I am not an artist......:)

Thomas,

I think you and Rosie are where I need to think about.  using a table.....Just the learning curve.....

 

In a way I am surprised no one is with OO.  I got it because I did not want to pay Bill Gates any more money.  OO is free to use and it has everything Word does.  Like Phil stated, it is a Word equivalent product.  My only problem.......I have gone through the Learning curve with Word....I have not done that with OO.  It just seems very different.  I think something else too......Microsoft has paid big bucks to make it user friendly....OO has not.  I guess I just need to slow down and not really expect to get this particular job that I am thinking about in the next month or two. 

 

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TCBlack | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jan 22 2011 7:54 AM

William Bingham:
In a way I am surprised no one is with OO.  I got it because I did not want to pay Bill Gates any more money.  OO is free to use and it has everything Word does.  Like Phil stated, it is a Word equivalent product.  My only problem.......I have gone through the Learning curve with Word....I have not done that with OO.  It just seems very different.  I think something else too......Microsoft has paid big bucks to make it user friendly....OO has not.  I guess I just need to slow down and not really expect to get this particular job that I am thinking about in the next month or two. 

Actually I am with OOo (for the reasons you mention)  which is why I had an answer.  :-)  

The good news is that OOo is currently being pushed through a stage of making it more user friendly.  Each release has a few refinements.  

FWIW I actually wrote an export filter using (reused code) to make OOo save my sermons into a ready to compile sermon file format for L3.  I am eagerly anticipating the early beta of L4's pbb/sfl support so that I can update as necessary the output - that is if it lays within my very meager XSLT capacity to do so.

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Rosie Perera | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jan 22 2011 1:36 PM

William Bingham:
In a way I am surprised no one is with OO.  I got it because I did not want to pay Bill Gates any more money.  OO is free to use and it has everything Word does. 

I will probably forever be a Word user. I helped write it (back in 1985-1989), so my loyalty runs very deep. And Bill Gates paid me enough to more than cover all my future upgrades to Word for as long as MS is still selling it. Smile

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Rich DeRuiter | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jan 22 2011 1:44 PM

Rosie Perera:

William Bingham:
In a way I am surprised no one is with OO.  I got it because I did not want to pay Bill Gates any more money.  OO is free to use and it has everything Word does. 

I will probably forever be a Word user. I helped write it (back in 1985-1989), so my loyalty runs very deep. And Bill Gates paid me enough to more than cover all my future upgrades to Word for as long as MS is still selling it. Smile

So, if I ever decide to give in and get Word, and try to get it to do those things I can't figure out (but are so easy in WordPerfect) you're the one to contact. Right? Wink

 Help links: WIKI;  Logos 6 FAQ. (Phil. 2:14, NIV)

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Rosie Perera | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jan 22 2011 1:47 PM

Richard DeRuiter:

So, if I ever decide to give in and get Word, and try to get it to do those things I can't figure out (but are so easy in WordPerfect) you're the one to contact. Right? Wink

Yup, and no winky smiley. I've gladly given help in this forums on Word issues, when they're related to Logos somehow even if only tangentially.

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Ken F Hill | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Mar 19 2011 8:01 AM

William Bingham:
printed 33 of them but can't go to next page

This is a fairly old thread, so you may have found a solution.  If not, and you don't mind trying and learning another free program (which has many uses), you might try the desktop publishing program Serif PagePlus SE.  You can layout text frames where you want and then link them all together so you have one document that flows from one frame to another.  Adding pages is no problem -- the flow continues.  I cannot find Avery 3153 but you can create your own size labels using the "small publications" publication type in page setup.

http://www.freeserifsoftware.com/  (also features a drawing program, web design, and panorama photo stitcher -- all free, stripped down but highly functional versions of paid programs)

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