problem with notes and hyperlinks (bug??)

Hi Chris

I think this is due to the way search determines the intersection between the specified search range and the target.

So you get different results, for example, if the search range is the same as the target or if it is completely contained within it.

For details of this, please see the table in "Searching for Bible verses and other references" at http://wiki.logos.com/Detailed_Search_Help (the table which defines how various operators are used)

So I use use a search string of <bible superset romans 16:1> for your first example I get a match.

(I am not sure but the anomaly seems to be the positive hits when you specify a chapter number)

Please review this table and see if it matches what you are experiencing - I think it's pretty close.

Graham

Rev Chris said:

What doesn't make sense to me is why the 2 Corinthians example worked fine

By default - if I remember correctly - if you don't specify an operator in the search field, the operator "~" is assumed which is why if you get a match within a range it shows as a hit. So this is what you saw in the Corinthians case.

Where it doesn't match is if the range spans chapter boundaries which - I am assuming - caused the problems for the Romans case. If you extend your selection from Corinthians to go into chapter 2 you will see the same problem.

Rev Chris said:

Also, this doesn't work for searching on the "go" bar, which means no passage guide and no exegetical guide

I don't understand this. For the Passage Guide and Exegetical Guide L4 works on the range specified - it doesn't search notes. Could you please expand on this?

Graham

Hi Chris

Sorry for not responding sooner - it was time to get some sleep[:)]

Rev Chris said:

Does it do this with books in my library as well?  For instance, if I have a book/article in my library that makes a comment about, say, Romans 2:17-3:8 and I do a search for "Romans 3:1" - will it show up in my results?

To check this I took the Baker New Testament Commentary on Acts and the introduction to the section on "The Church in Jerusalem, part 2" which has:

For this exercise, I am focussing on the highlighted reference (3:1-5:26) and checking to see if searches for Romans 4:1 count as hits.

If I do Basic searches for any of the following:

• acts 4:1 (which is the same as <bible ~ acts 4:1>)
• <bible = acts 4:1>
• <bible subset acts 4.1>

I do not get a match

If I do Basic searches for any of the following:

• <bible superset acts 4:1>
• <bible intersect acts 4:1>

I do get a match

This is all consistent with the description of the various search operators in the wiki article and how search is designed to work. It does require some understanding of the use of these operators to ensure you get the information you are looking for. I remember a long discussion about this some months ago but can't find it now.

Rev Chris said:

In my above example, if I do a search from the Go bar on "2 Corinthians 1:5", the note shows up in "My Passage Guide" under the section "My Content".

Thanks, now I understand.

So it looks as though the notes search being done when running a Passage Guide effectively uses the ~ operator (or something like it). I guess there had to be a design decision as to which type of search was used to either focus the results to those which seemed most relevant or to include the widest set possible (which can make it difficult to find the actual results people are looking for).

I think it comes down to the question of "if you have a note which contains an outline of the entire book, do you want it to appear in a search when looking for a particular verse in the book?" Some people would say yes while others would say no.

Hope this at least throws some light on what is going on.

Graham