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Geoff Johnson | Forum Activity | Posted: Sat, May 28 2011 6:16 AM

One thing I would very much like to do is read my Logos books on my Nook. It seems the Vyrso could be a step in that direction, especially since I read the Vyrso books can be read in both Logos and the Vyrso e-Reader app. I guess the larger question is: Can Vyrso books be read on dedicated e-reader devices like the Kindle or the Nook? Or is the format proprietary and only compatible with the Vyrso reader? And, toward my personal concern, will some (or all) Logos books be reverse-engineered to work with Vyrso?

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JT (alabama24) | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, May 28 2011 6:36 AM

Geoff Johnson:

will some (or all) Logos books be reverse-engineered to work with Vyrso?

They already are. Every book that works with the Logos App also works with the Vyrso App. In many ways, they are the same App. The big difference is that Vyrso is more dedicated towards reading and the Logos app is geared towards study. In my opinion, the real news here is not the Vyrso app reader, but that Logos is moving into trade books. They are suggesting that they will have 25,000 books by the end of the year. Hopefully we will be able to get books on their release date or shortly after. 

Vyrso will introduce Logos to thousands of new people, which is a GOOD thing. When Apple created the iPod (and then the iPad), it created a "Halo" effect. People who had never considered a Mac were now giving them a close look, and many switched. I predict the same thing will happen here.

When it comes to "christian fiction" (i.e. "Left Behind"), I could really care less. What I am excited about is to read books from authors like Francis Chan, Mark Driscoll, Andy Stanley, etc. If these books become available on Vyrso, they will also be in my Logos Library. If I search for a subject, these books will also appear in my search results. Notes, highlights, clippings can be added. These features are not currently available on the iPad app, but hopefully they will be soon. For now, however, they are available in Logos.

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Mark Barnes | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, May 28 2011 7:06 AM

Geoff Johnson:
Can Vyrso books be read on dedicated e-reader devices like the Kindle or the Nook? Or is the format proprietary and only compatible with the Vyrso reader? And, toward my personal concern, will some (or all) Logos books be reverse-engineered to work with Vyrso?

Let me answer your questions in this order:

(2) Vyrso uses a proprietary format. So you'll need an app to read it on other platforms (or an internet connection so you can read at biblia.com)

(3) The proprietary format is the Logos format. So already, you can read all Vyrso books on Logos and vice-versa.

(1) Kindle do not allow the apps of other eBook readers on its platform, so you won't see it there. Nook is basically an Android device, so when Vyrso for Android is launched it ought to work. But Nook don't allow Android apps either (unless you hack it).

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Kenny Larsen | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, May 30 2011 2:53 AM

Assuming we can read these books with Logos (anyone know this yet?) then I would guess the current workaround for Kindle involving exporting and re-formatting will still work.

Kenny

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Tobias Lampert | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, May 30 2011 3:01 AM

Kenny Larsen:

Assuming we can read these books with Logos (anyone know this yet?) then I would guess the current workaround for Kindle involving exporting and re-formatting will still work.

Kenny

As Mark has already answered: Yes, Vyrso books are readable in Logos 4. So the workaround will still work.

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Kenny Larsen | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, May 30 2011 3:37 AM

Thanks Theolobias, that will teach me to read replies properly! :)

Kenny

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Tobias Lampert | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, May 30 2011 3:40 AM

Kenny Larsen:

Thanks Theolobias, that will teach me to read replies properly! :)

Kenny

Big Smile I suppose it's early in the morning where you live, so I won't count that as a mistake! Wink

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TomB | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jun 3 2011 4:00 PM

There is a work arround for Kindle???

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Mark Barnes | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jun 3 2011 5:34 PM

TomB:
There is a work arround for Kindle???

In L4 you can print 100 pages of the book to a PDF then email it to your Kindle.

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TomB | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jun 9 2011 9:25 AM

Mark Barnes:

 Nook is basically an Android device, so when Vyrso for Android is launched it ought to work. But Nook don't allow Android apps either (unless you hack it).

Actually B&N has an app market that could allow that to happen. That would require Logos to submit the app to B&N and B&N to approve it. B&N may not because they could look at Logos as a competitor, but they do allow Google to post books directaly in the B&N store. Also they would probably add the logos format to their reader just to make it more versatile as a reader IF Logos let them. (then Logos could still sell the books and let us "side load" them onto our nooks.  :-)

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TomB | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jun 9 2011 11:37 AM

Mark Barnes:

TomB:
There is a work arround for Kindle???

In L4 you can print 100 pages of the book to a PDF then email it to your Kindle.

Awesome, My Nook has PDF support too.

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Michael Mawhorter | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jun 16 2011 3:19 PM

Could you elaborate on the workaround? I'm on the verge of buying a Kindle and would like to be able to read these books on it.

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gkp | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jun 16 2011 3:45 PM

Thanks so much for the info on copying to a PDF for the Kindle...my Kindle goes everywhere with me so that is wonderful news!

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Mark Barnes | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jun 17 2011 12:30 AM

Michael Mawhorter:
Could you elaborate on the workaround? I'm on the verge of buying a Kindle and would like to be able to read these books on it.

The 'workaround' is this:

  1. Install a PDF printer driver on your computer.
  2. Use Print/Export in Logos to 'print' upto 100 pages of your book to PDF.
  3. Email the PDF to your kindle using the email address Amazon provide.

More info on points (1) and (2) is found here http://www.logos4training.com/videos/exporting/ (though if you're not familiar with printing from Logos you might prefer to watching the printing video first).

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Roger Pitot | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jun 17 2011 5:14 AM

I find pdf files almost unreadable on my Kindle because the font is so small.

I have simply copied and pasted books from Logos that I want to read while I'm travelling and saved them in text format in Notepad or Word, then copied them across to my Kindle using the USB cord and they are very readable.

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Mark Barnes | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jun 17 2011 8:34 AM

Roger Pitot:
I find pdf files almost unreadable on my Kindle because the font is so small.

In Logos you can increase the size of the font before you print to PDF: http://wiki.logos.com/Print$2fExport#Changing_the_Font_size

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Roger Pitot | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jun 17 2011 8:54 AM

Thank you Mark, I'll check it out.

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Mike Childs | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jun 17 2011 4:44 PM

You can also find lots of free ways to convert the pdf to an epub or other ebook format so that you can adjust the font size in kindle.

I have had trouble with Greek text in such work arounds.

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Simon Mitchell | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jul 16 2011 9:08 PM

I tried converting a PDF document to ePub using calibre - it wasn't pretty. I'd stay with the PDF output  from Logos 4 - it preserves the formating of the original nicely. Q: viewing a PDF in Kindle - do the page turns work OK? I'm still deciding what e-Reader to purchase. Thanks.

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Daniel Lee | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Jul 17 2011 11:36 AM

Simon:

I tried converting a PDF document to ePub using calibre - it wasn't pretty. I'd stay with the PDF output  from Logos 4 - it preserves the formating of the original nicely. Q: viewing a PDF in Kindle - do the page turns work OK? I'm still deciding what e-Reader to purchase. Thanks.

This is not from Logos, but I tried reading a PDF from another source on my Kindle.  Page turns worked but the fonts were rather small and hard to read, and links didn't work properly.  I ended up having to use Mobipocket Creator to convert PDF to .mobi and then copy to my Kindle.  The resulting links worked and the formatting was decent.  Your results may vary depending on the source text.

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