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George Somsel | Forum Activity | Posted: Sun, Jun 5 2011 9:11 PM

An on-screen keyboard such as is in L3 would be nice, but I would want it somewhat larger so as to be easier to read some of the smaller characters (a ַ and a ָ look pretty much the same at that size -- and there are others).  Of course, if we knew how to change languages in the Windows 7 on-screen keyboard, that would most likely be satisfactory.

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Rosie Perera | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Jun 5 2011 9:12 PM

What about having Shibboleth integrated into Logos? It's pretty nice!

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George Somsel | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Jun 5 2011 9:15 PM

Rosie Perera:

What about having Shibboleth integrated into Logos? It's pretty nice!

The problem with Shibboleth is that you need to copy and paste it wherever you want it.  With a keyboard you simply type it in in place.

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Rosie Perera | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Jun 5 2011 9:27 PM

George Somsel:

Rosie Perera:

What about having Shibboleth integrated into Logos? It's pretty nice!

The problem with Shibboleth is that you need to copy and paste it wherever you want it.  With a keyboard you simply type it in in place.

That's what I mean by integrating it into Logos: make it so seamless that you don't have to copy and paste. Shibboleth has a keyboard. I'm just saying integrate that keyboard into Logs.

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George Somsel | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Jun 5 2011 9:47 PM

Rosie Perera:
That's what I mean by integrating it into Logos: make it so seamless that you don't have to copy and paste. Shibboleth has a keyboard. I'm just saying integrate that keyboard into Logs.

I think I figured out the Windows 7 on-screen keyboard.  It's nice.

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fgh | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jun 6 2011 6:16 AM

George Somsel:
An on-screen keyboard such as is in L3 would be nice, but I would want it somewhat larger so as to be easier to read some of the smaller characters

Not that I know what you had in L3, but it sounds like you want a Mac. Big Smile

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George Somsel | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jun 6 2011 8:45 AM

fgh:

George Somsel:
An on-screen keyboard such as is in L3 would be nice, but I would want it somewhat larger so as to be easier to read some of the smaller characters

Not that I know what you had in L3, but it sounds like you want a Mac. Big Smile

Don't get me going.  I will exercise extreme patience and simply state that I won't allow one of those @#!$%^^ things in the house.

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fgh | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jun 6 2011 11:08 AM

George Somsel:
Don't get me going.  I will exercise extreme patience and simply state that I won't allow one of those @#!$%^^ things in the house.

Pretty much how I feel about PC...Wink

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Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :) | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jun 6 2011 5:22 PM

George Somsel:

fgh:

George Somsel:
An on-screen keyboard such as is in L3 would be nice, but I would want it somewhat larger so as to be easier to read some of the smaller characters

Not that I know what you had in L3, but it sounds like you want a Mac. Big Smile

 

Don't get me going.  I will exercise extreme patience and simply state that I won't allow one of those @#!$%^^ things in the house.

Observation: current Mac's can run more software than PC's since can run Windows and Linux in virtual machines while running Mac OS X.  Apple Boot Camp provides Windows boot option (albeit Mac OS X not running).  By the way, can click on Mac screen capture for full size easy to read on-screen keyboard image:

Mac OS X 10.6 (Snow Leopard) includes "Arabic", "Arabic - PC", and "Arabic - QWERTY" input source options, whose keys can be displayed in an easy to read on-screen keyboard:

By the way, keys change when modifier is pressed (e.g. shift, control, option, command).

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George Somsel | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jun 6 2011 5:51 PM

Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :):
Observation: current Mac's can run more software than PC's since can run Windows and Linux in virtual machines while running Mac OS X.  Apple Boot Camp provides Windows boot option (albeit Mac OS X not running).  By the way, can click on Mac screen capture for full size easy to read on-screen keyboard image:

I seriously doubt that a MAC can run more software than a PC.  You forget that you can dual-boot a PC and run a different OS in addition to the fact that almost all developers write for the PC (not the MAC).  Windows also can do different languages and has done so for some time, but I only recently found that it will also display an on-screen keyboard in the current input language.  I'm trying to decide which of several keyboards to use though I would like one which follows the principles of the other Logos keyboards.

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Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :) | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jun 6 2011 6:38 PM

George Somsel:

Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :):
Observation: current Mac's can run more software than PC's since can run Windows and Linux in virtual machines while running Mac OS X.  Apple Boot Camp provides Windows boot option (albeit Mac OS X not running).  By the way, can click on Mac screen capture for full size easy to read on-screen keyboard image:

I seriously doubt that a MAC can run more software than a PC.  You forget that you can dual-boot a PC and run a different OS in addition to the fact that almost all developers write for the PC (not the MAC).  Windows also can do different languages and has done so for some time, but I only recently found that it will also display an on-screen keyboard in the current input language.  I'm trying to decide which of several keyboards to use though I would like one which follows the principles of the other Logos keyboards.

Observation: legally cannot run Mac OS X on non-Apple hardware.  Mac App Store has thousands of applications that do not run on a PC.  Also like 2560 x 1440 screen resolution on 27" iMac.  On Mac and PC, Oracle's VirtualBox is free (can run Windows and Linux virtual machines).  On Mac, have option to run Logos 4 PC (virtual machine) and Logos 4 Mac at same time, quite useful for comparing features on both platforms.

By the way, a Master Boot Record (MBR) formatted disk is limited to 15 partitions (some linux distributions cannot use sda16 for swap).  In contrast, Apple's disk partitioning uses Globally Unique Identifier (GUID) labeling so one disk can have up to 128 partitions.  Note: much easier to copy Mac OS X (or linux) bootable partition across computers than Windows.

Business observation: for past 5 years, Apple has sold more Mac computers than previous quarter (along with other stuff so each quarter is record setting).  Global Mac usage has increased enough for a black market malware development kit (also includes linux); so know need for anti-virus software on Mac and Linux is "soon".  If include iPad's, Apple is # 3 computer manufacturer worldwide => http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/11/01/26/apple_becomes_no_3_global_pc_maker_with_241_growth_if_ipad_is_included.html  (quite a change from many years ago when Mac marketshare was 3 % or less in US).

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Douglas | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Jun 12 2011 5:55 PM

Rosie Perera:

 

The problem with Shibboleth is that you need to copy and paste it wherever you want it.  With a keyboard you simply type it in in place.

That's what I mean by integrating it into Logos: make it so seamless that you don't have to copy and paste. Shibboleth has a keyboard. I'm just saying integrate that keyboard into Logs.

I LIKE It  :)  Yes

 

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George Somsel | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jan 30 2012 10:28 AM

Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :):

Unless I'm using a language other than Greek or Hebrew, I prefer that downloadable and installable Logos Biblical Greek/Hebrew keyboards.  The advantage of Shibboleth is that I can do other languages as well though I rarely use other languages.  As regards an on-screen keyboard, there is one in Windows which is just fine.

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toughski | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jan 30 2012 10:37 AM

Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :):
Observation: current Mac's can run more software than PC's since can run Windows and Linux in virtual machines while running Mac OS X.  Apple Boot Camp provides Windows boot option (albeit Mac OS X not running).

First of all, you referenced virtual machines - could not Windows run ANYTHING in a virtual machine too? (Wink singing the tune "anything you can do I can do better...)

Secondly, MACs run on specific hardware only. Windows can dual-boot (jailbroken/hackintosh) MAC OS on virtually any hardware.

Thirdly, MACs cannot run Word with RTL language support natively

Forth, I can go pretty long with this list,

Fifthly, ...

 

 

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Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :) | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jan 30 2012 4:03 PM

toughski:

Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :):
Observation: current Mac's can run more software than PC's since can run Windows and Linux in virtual machines while running Mac OS X.  Apple Boot Camp provides Windows boot option (albeit Mac OS X not running).

First of all, you referenced virtual machines - could not Windows run ANYTHING in a virtual machine too? (Wink singing the tune "anything you can do I can do better...)

Secondly, MACs run on specific hardware only. Windows can dual-boot (jailbroken/hackintosh) MAC OS on virtually any hardware.

Technically yes while legally no.  Apple licenses Mac OS X for use only on Apple hardware so running Mac OS X on non Apple hardware is illegal (plus may encounter issues due to lack of hardware drivers for hacked Mac OS X).  In contrast, Apple provides Windows drivers for Apple hardware.

toughski:

Thirdly, MACs cannot run Word with RTL language support natively

Concur that Microsoft does not support RTL on Mac in Word.  Hence recommendation for free LibreOffice that has Complex Text Layout (CTL) option or run Windows version of Word in a virtual machine or boot camp on Mac.  Also suggest looking at Mellel and Scrivener on Mac.

Comparing computer hardware pricing, Apple offers the best price for Ultrabooks (especially refurbished current generation models); other manufacturers needed $ 300,000,000 assistance from Intel to produce competitive models.  In contrast, Apple MacBook Pro 17" model has premium pricing.

Thankful that Logos 4 works on Mac and Windows; would appreciate Shibboleth being integrated into Logos 4 for use on both platforms (on-screen keyboard), with dreams of integration in mobile apps for notes.

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