Forum Guidelines: No Theology Debates

Please stop the theology wars in Logos forums.

Just stop.

Stop posting about errors in other people's doctrine. Please stop posting your own doctrine. Please stop responding to correct misperceptions or misunderstandings or to counter attacks.

It takes two to have an argument. Please stop being the second party that turns an unkind post into a flame war.

Logos Bible Software is here to serve everyone who studies the Bible. That is intentionally "big tent" and we intentionally do not have a statement of faith or a doctrinal position.

The forums are here to support and discuss Logos Bible Software. There are plenty of forums for gladitorial theological combat; please take those discussions there.

I do not want to moderate the forums. I do not want to pay someone to moderate the forums. I am opposed to deleting or locking threads because it's pointless: the person who must make their voice heard will find other ways to do so. And the person who would respect the shut down doesn't need to be "deleted," only told. And I want to spend our resources on building tools, not hiring hall monitors for the forums.

Big News: Not everyone agrees on theology. Turns out, Catholics and protestants have been disagreeing for quite some time. The arguments have, at times, gotten quite heated, if you could believe that. Turns out, the protestants have their own problems, too. They've been splitting churches on stuff like form of baptism (forward immersion or backwards?), style of worship music (drums in church?), and, amazingly, personal disagreements that sometimes start at covered-dish suppers.

Logos is here for everyone who studies the Bible. Baby sprinklers, backwards immersers, forward triple-dunkers, bacon in the potato salad, lime Jello molds with celery, pastors with robes, churches with candles, vegetarians, and sunrise services on the beach. Heretics, cultists, and atheists included; we'd love for them to study the Bible, too.

To everyone who knows that others are wrong:

Wouldn't it be great if all the people who waste their time and energy on petty things put that time and energy into Bible study? Wouldn't it be great if people who've made horrible theological errors and are leading others astray spent their time in studying the Word? And what is more likely to set the wrong on the path of truth? My badgering and taunting, or time spent studying God's Word?

I'd sure hate to be wasting the time and energy of people of people who, because they've bought Logos Bible Software and are hanging out in its forums, have already shown that they're engaged in that study and pursuit of God's truth.

There are other places where you can seek out and engage people who aren't already studying. Maybe they want to be badgered. Or better yet, you could encourage them to do their own study, too.

One more time, bluntly.

Most of the theology flame wars seem to be protestant/Catholic. Just stop.

Protestants: The Catholics here are the ones engaged in personal Bible study. No matter how much you disagree with Catholic doctrine / church history / whatever, wouldn't these be your favorite Catholics? Please treat them kindly.

Catholics: Logos welcomes you, and we're working hard to provide more tools, resources, and support. We've hired a Catholic product manager and are working hard to serve you. But our customer base is still 95% protestant, and you know that there are some passionate and even out-of-control people in protestant churches, and that the protestants don't do a good job getting along on a single doctrinal statement. That's why the Catholic church is basically one large church, and the average protestant church splits after reaching 100-200 people. I know the attacks are painful and unkind, but please understand that you're "surrounded" by people who traditionally are more likely to split a church than seek unity. In the protestant mindset there isn't a single authority figure who will be respected, let alone able to quell debate and dissension.

Respectfully,

-- Bob

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John A. Taylor

Well said Bob! As a Pentecostal with a cousin who is a Catholic Priest, a son-in-law who is a Lutheran pastor, a sister-in-law who is a devoted Catholic, and a now deceased uncle who was a Free-Methodist pastor, I've found that we can agree on far more than we disagree on. And I've been enriched by peaceful discussions, over the Word, about the areas we disagree on.

I haven't changed my doctrinal stance, but I have enlarged my vision of God's church. Logos software offers us the opportunity to participate in informed discussions about our differences, away from the forums, while we celebrate our love of Logos in the forums.

Silent Sam

[^o)] HHHMMMmmm~~~ [^o)]

Rich DeRuiter

Please stop the theology wars in Logos forums.

Bob, may I suggest that to this we add: Stop debates about Bible versions.

The vitriol can be similar and the value of the debates equally dubious.

EDIT: I just realized I didn't thank you for this post. Thank you, thank you,thank you!

Matthew C Jones

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/264792#Comment_264792

Please stop the theology wars in Logos forums.

Bob, may I suggest that to this we add: Stop debates about Bible versions.

The vitriol can be similar and the value of the debates equally dubious.

Agreed! [Y]

Debates are different than discussions.

Proselytizing and judging should be checked at the door.

edit: If all Bible versions were the same, we would only have one. With dozens to choose from, they can't all be equal. With 2.1 billion potential Bible readers, we will not settle on which is "best." No debates.

Michael

Please stop the theology wars in Logos forums.

[Y]

Alan Charles Gielczyk

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/264795#Comment_264795

Thanks Bob,

I hope everyone will take this advice. I thought of jumping into the conversation that spawned this thread but did not because of all the reasons Bob stated. I have strong doctrinal beliefs and I believe I am right. This means I believe many others are wrong HOWEVER, this is not the place to deal with those. This is the place where we can discuss the tool that helps us study the scriptures and that is the best thing anyone can do to find the truth. Please everyone who has participated in that thread STOP!

My prayer is that ALL who contributed repent, think and move forward with our discussions about the best tool around for Bible study.

Alain Maashe

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/264810#Comment_264810

I appreatiate Bob's intervention but I wish the clarifications had been… clearer.

Bob emphasized theological wars and heated debates. However, the specifics concerning what people should not do appear to preclude any and all theological discussions: “Stop posting about errors in other people's doctrine. Please stop posting your own doctrine. Please stop responding to correct misperceptions or misunderstandings or to counter attacks”. I do not see any theological exchange that would not qualify.

I understand why a company would want to limit theological debates/discussions. When sales and customer satisfaction are concerned, there is little upside and a lot of downside when discussing religion. Offended or marginalized customers are less likely to stay.

However, I found some of the theological rationale (all that should matters is that people are studying God’s Word) to be less convincing and even counterproductive (the reason why individuals engage others theologically in venues such as this one is rarely because the other person does not study the Bible but mainly because of the belief that said person is doing it the wrong way). The solution is not to present theological differences as trivial (some, not all, have eternal consequences) and related discussions as a waste of time (promoting sound doctrine is encouraged by the Bible itself) but to emphasize the fact that by company policy, this website is not the place for such exchanges (plain and simple). Such a rule does not need a somewhat questionable theological rationale and stands on its own.

As a user of this website, I respect Logos’ rules and regulations and as such, I do not participate in activities that are forbidden by the company (even though I like constructive theological discussions as much as the next man). However, even if discussions were allowed, I would still stay out of many of them because of the lack of edification. It is good that Bob decided to step in and calm things down.

Alain

Floyd Johnson

[Y][Y]

I am just sorry you needed to write it all. May God and His Word be praised by all who are here.

nicky crane

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/264815#Comment_264815

Thank you, Bob, it needed saying. I'm an Anglican, albeit a reluctant one. I worship with the Catholics. Used to worship with the Evangelical church as well, till they cold-shouldered me for worshipping with the Catholics. Present pastor and family are good friends of mine and very supportive. I'm just back from a visit to them. He says "theological problems" are usually an excuse for a personality clash... I live in a Muslim village, and we do Bible study according approximately to the evangelical model because that's what makes sense to the participants. We don't use the term Christian, but call ourselves Believers in Jesus. I use Logos daily for Bible study and Vyrso even more for reading. Some of my Bible study is done from an old fashioned paper Bible, but I then turn to Logos for commentaries.

I normally enjoy the forums, but have tended not to open the threads that appear to have a theological/aggressive bias.

Jack Caviness

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/264827#Comment_264827

I normally enjoy the forums, but have tended not to open the threads that appear to have a theological/aggressive bias.

Could you loan me some of your self-control? [8-|]

nicky crane

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/264836#Comment_264836

IT'S NOT self control. I just find them unattractive. I've suffered enough from intolerance about my heretical views, whether it's believing the Bible too much, or failing to understand it the way the other person does, that I'm just turned off by theological diatribes, or what appear to me to be diatribes, or over-dogmatic statements .

Westie

I know the attacks are painful and unkind, but please understand that you're "surrounded" by people who traditionally are more likely to split a church than seek unity. In the protestant mindset there isn't a single authority figure who will be respected, let alone able to quell debate and dissension.

Bob,

I have spent a great deal of money, and continue to spend money on your software. My daily use of the forum is basically limited to looking at what people say regarding specific resources that I may have overlooked. I am a partner in a 250 person CPA firm with over 2000 clients. I can’t imagine speaking to my clients or employees in this manner.

Your statement is extremely offensive. To make such a sweeping statement is wrong. There are many protestant / reformed persons like myself that simply scan the forum daily for information.

To be clear… I respect authority figures. Within the church I submit to the elders, outside the church I submit to all governing authorities, just as the bible commands me to. I seek unity around the authority of the bible, hence the reason that I have spent so much money on your software, and why I study any chance I get. Lastly, I have never “split” a church, or caused dissention in a church.

Mark

Matthew C Jones

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/264848#Comment_264848

I've suffered enough from intolerance about my heretical views, whether it's believing the Bible too much, or failing to understand it the way the other person does, that I'm just turned off by theological diatribes, or what appear to me to be diatribes, or over-dogmatic statements .

I like theology.
                                 I like different tribes.
                                                                             I like dogs.

It is those automatic cat statements I can't stand.      Woof!

Bohuslav Wojnar

Thank you Bob for stepping in and sharing with us all you have said. I am sorry you have to do it but appreciate it even more. Please, keep on with your vision of building a strong Bible Software company for all/any/whoever would take Bible into his/her hands. I believe it is a God-given mission. God bless you in all you are and you do. [Y]

Robert Pavich

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/264853#Comment_264853

Bob,

Understood and I'll do my best; though I might slip here and there.

I'm sorry that (knowing your normal ultra-cool demeanor) that it got to this...and I apologize.

Greg

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/264850#Comment_264850

Well said.

Can we sticky this post and lock it down so its always visible?

Lynden O. Williams

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/264857#Comment_264857

Users of the software are diverse and many. We come from a wide variety of backgrounds, many denominations, countries etc.. Lets respect each others views, discuss the uses of the software, and how we can help each other benefit from it.

I have been blessed from the posts of many, and am not concerned with their theological leanings. It does not matter, where you worship, or if you worship at all. Just give your input on how to make a great product better, or ask your questions related to the software.

My only concern is how can we make a good product better. Keep posting your suggestions for improvements, resources to be added, and tips on using the software.

Time to get back on track.

Love and peace.

Lynden

Matthew C Jones

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/264850#Comment_264850

To be clear… I respect authority figures. Within the church I submit to the elders, outside the church I submit to all governing authorities, just as the bible commands me to. I seek unity around the authority of the bible, hence the reason that I have spent so much money on your software, and why I study any chance I get. Lastly, I have never “split” a church, or caused dissention in a church.

Mark,

If everyone were like you and respected authority and sought to live peaceably with all men, there would be no dissension. There are around 750,000 Logos users and the overwhelming majority of them are nice people who respect others. Bob's "sweeping statement" is just that, sweeping. He is attempting to clean up a mess. It is a bit silly for a company CEO to have to have to smooth things over because "Christian adults" can not behave.

Obviously Bob's statement is not referring to you or 749,950 of the other Logos users. These forums are for you & them. Law enforcement is only necessary against lawbreakers. If you can be a peacemaker behind the scenes, God bless your efforts.

Michael Anda

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/264873#Comment_264873

God bless your efforts.

I would have liked to have seen Bob use the word 'statistically' instead of 'traditionally.' [8-|]

Ralph Mauch

Logos Bible Software is here to serve everyone who studies the Bible. That is intentionally "big tent" and we intentionally do not have a statement of faith or a doctrinal position.

The forums are here to support and discuss Logos Bible Software. There are plenty of forums for gladitorial theological combat; please take those discussions there.

Bob, you are going to have trouble with the Big Tent mentality when it comes to the folks that buy your software, and how they want to express themselves on a forum like this. Just as you brought up good points about church splits etc, when you are talking about the Bible, it will cause some to ask questions, who do not know about any discussions on other web pages (some of them I pray will never be found), but are reading your product and have questions. Or, do you simply want only question to come up about what button do I press to do this or that, and how do you inforce that?

With that said, I think you need to allow some of your VIP's authority to kill a thread when it gets out of hand. I don't think you need to make a commentary on all of this, or let Dan take the brunt of it (humor), because folks will view your comments differently then you probably intended them to.

I am sorry that you had to step in, and I don't know the thread that caused it, but you have some pretty good VIPs that could help nip this before it gets out of hand. Just some thoughts.

Ralph

(‾◡◝)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/264900#Comment_264900

I think you need to allow some of your VIP's authority to kill a thread

While I sympathize with this sentiment, I don't think it is the answer. Ultimately, if this policy is implemented, you have the potential of producing a lot of hurt feelings. "Why did you kill my thread but not this one?" "That MVP is biased against [name a theological position here] but sympathetic towards [name a theological position here]." "Unfair." "Capricious."

I think a better solution would be to establish a Cage Match forum which could be entered voluntarily or, posts/threads could be redirected there by the MVPs. Perhaps, in extreme situations, it might even be used to banish a recalcitrant for a timeout with no access to the main forums ... sort of like a penalty box. Either way, the Cage Match forum would be a no holds barred, enter at your own risk, place where the more philosophically pugnacious, those who like theological jousting, and those who fantasize themselves as Valiant for Truth can go and have at it. Meanwhile the rest of the Logos Forums can be dedicated to the software and the books as the owner/provider of forum has stated many times over.

Just my two cents ...

Schezic

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/264900#Comment_264900

With that said, I think you need to allow some of your VIP's authority to kill a thread when it gets out of hand.

I think a better solution would be to establish a Cage Match forum which could be entered voluntarily or, posts/threads could be redirected there by the MVPs.

Make sense to me. Look how it worked in Mayberry. Hang a star on the village idiot and let him patrol the halls.

You assume that an unpaid hall monitor is more effective than a paid hall monitor?

I do not want to moderate the forums. I do not want to pay someone to moderate the forums. I am opposed to deleting or locking threads because it's pointless: the person who must make their voice heard will find other ways to do so. And the person who would respect the shut down doesn't need to be "deleted," only told. And I want to spend our resources on building tools, not hiring hall monitors for the forums.

Michael Anda

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/264905#Comment_264905

My two cents is that these things need to be killed IMMEDIATELY if they escalate as quickly and divisively as the recent one did. Especially if the poster has a previous history or is especially adamant that (s)he speaks for God and the rules as stated here don't apply to them.

Matthew C Jones

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/264923#Comment_264923

In another thread a wise man recently said this: http://community.logos.com/forums/p/34988/264860.aspx#264860

and this: http://community.logos.com/forums/p/34988/264902.aspx#264902

and this: http://community.logos.com/forums/p/34988/264927.aspx#264927

Let Bob run Logos. [C]

Michael Anda

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/264928#Comment_264928

Matthew, your link didn't send me anywhere that supports your comment. I consider Richard DeRuiter to be VERY wise, but he wasn't commenting on Bob running his business.

Michael Anda

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/264930#Comment_264930

Oh, sorry. I "get" your drift now, Matthew. Rightly dividing one's comments is important, isn't it?

Matthew C Jones

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/264930#Comment_264930

I know we all want the same results but Bob did not ask for our help in developing forum policy. There are as many ideas on how to do that as there are ways to celebrate December's Holy Day(s).

Michael Anda

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/264932#Comment_264932

I'm not a big fan of sweeping things under rugs, mind you.

Michael Anda

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/264934#Comment_264934

The forum policies are there for everyone to see. The ones posted under the Phil Gons moniker, anyway. THEY seem like a REALLY good idea to me.

Fred Greco

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/264935#Comment_264935

Well since everyone else seems to be giving Bob unsolicited advice, let me try as well.

First, these forums are owned by Logos. They pay for them, they have their name on them, they are the "face" of Logos on the internet. That means that no one, including me, has a right to say anything here other than Logos employees. There is a huge difference between freedom of speech and freedom of venue.

Second, that means that Logos can (and should) close threads, delete comments, and generally police the forums. If I get moderated, that is fine. Just because I have the right to believe and say what I believe, does not give me the right to go into your house and yell at you (or call you on the phone at 2am, or shout in a movie theater, you get my drift).

Third, the expectation of the forums is that this will be a place for help, discussion, etc. about Logos. This is especially true since Logos does not really come with any sort of help files or manual. That is not a problem - because the forums fill that gap very nicely.

Fourth, the users need to exercise restraint within the constraints of the above (and Logos forum philosophy). This is a place about software, not theology. When a thread comes up about a Logos resource where people gush about a resource that I consider heretical or dangerous, I simply avoid that thread (as I expect others do with threads I find useful). There is no need to "do theology" here. I want to know what resources are available in Logos, not what people think is wrong about certain authors.

My suggestion as an admin of a theology board with more than 2 million visits and 10 million page views per year, is that a little policing goes a long way. Having users "report threads" to Logos employees (through PM? email? a report thread subforum?) and then having Logos employees summarily close threads or delete posts that go against guidelines would all but stop this kind of time sink.

Keep up the good work, Logos. Your software is helpful, and so are these forums.

Is Mebin

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/264877#Comment_264877

Just thought I would tell a little story (fairly light-hearted)...

I was once working at a service station (gas station) and a Jehovah's Witness came in doing his night-time ministry. He introduced himself. I said "Great, because I'm a Jehovah's Witness too. Yes, I witness about Jehovah all the time! But I'm also a Muslim!" He said, "how can that be?" I said, "I believe in the one true God - that makes me a Muslim doesn't it? But wait, I'm also a Mormon." Looking even more bewildered, he asked, "How?" "Well" I said, "I belong to the Church of Jesus Christ, and I am a saint living in the last days...doesn't this make me a Mormon?" "Im also a Catholic" I continued, "Yes, I also go to the one true church!"

"Oh" said the JW, "so you are a Christian!" I said, "well, I could be a Baptist because I've had the full immersion done...I could be an SDA as I belive in the Sabbath...I could be a Pentecostal because I've had one of those experiences too!" "Wait, wait!" said the JW, "what church do you go to?"

'I could go to the CRC, COC, CCC, AOG...but I belong to the church of the Living G-O-D!!!"

Finally he understood what I meant...so we decided to pray together that we would both understand God's Word better...I closed my eyes right then and there...begun to praise in tongues...when I opened my eyes, all I saw was the automatic doors closing.

My story always makes me think of the parable of the Good Samaritan. I am positive that our Lord's theology was better than mine, yet he could put it aside to help somebody that the rest of the religious leadership might not want, or be able, to. Indeed, even his own race!

Prayer..."Lord, please pour you oil upon us that our scars my soften and fade, and help us to drink of your new wine so that we are sensitive to your Holy Spirit. Let your love reign in our lives."

Thank you to everyone who has contributed to this forum...I find myself looking forward to checking it every day. For a non-church attender, this can count as true fellowship, believe me!

Ben

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/264940#Comment_264940

Just thought I would tell a little story (fairly light-hearted)...

I was once working at a service station (gas station) and a Jehovah's Witness came in doing his night-time ministry. He introduced himself. I said "Great, because I'm a Jehovah's Witness too. Yes, I witness about Jehovah all the time! But I'm also a Muslim!" He said, "how can that be?" I said, "I believe in the one true God - that makes me a Muslim doesn't it? But wait, I'm also a Mormon." Looking even more bewildered, he asked, "How?" "Well" I said, "I belong to the Church of Jesus Christ, and I am a saint living in the last days...doesn't this make me a Mormon?" "Im also a Catholic" I continued, "Yes, I also go to the one true church!"

typical NEW AGE MOVEMENT, STOP YOUR OPION,THIS NOT TURTH. hope confession in Gospel of Jesus.

Abi Gail

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/264943#Comment_264943

typical NEW AGE MOVEMENT, STOP YOUR OPION,THIS NOT TURTH. hope confession in Gospel of Jesus.

How's that No Debate policy workin' out for ya?

Fred Greco

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/264945#Comment_264945

typical NEW AGE MOVEMENT, STOP YOUR OPION,THIS NOT TURTH. hope confession in Gospel of Jesus.

How's that no debate policy workin' out for ya?

As well as a spelling policy. [:P]

Matthew C Jones

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/264945#Comment_264945

edit: I take my pearls back. [:#]

Is Mebin

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/264943#Comment_264943

typical NEW AGE MOVEMENT, STOP YOUR OPION,THIS NOT TURTH. hope confession in Gospel of Jesus.

Thank you for your OPION (opinion) of what is TURTH (truth)...I really do value it...and yes, I am a New-Ager...a believer in Jesus Christ (in whom I put ALL my hope) living in a new age!!! God bless you.

Ben

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/264945#Comment_264945

typical NEW AGE MOVEMENT, STOP YOUR OPION,THIS NOT TURTH. hope confession in Gospel of Jesus.

How's that no debate policy workin' out for ya?

Indeed I agree with Bob, but if someone proclaim non-Bible word or mislead God's Word, we don't slience.

Dr. Charles A. Wootten

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/264943#Comment_264943

Thanks, Bob. I've taught classes recently where the 20-or so people present attend a different church. 20-plus in the same room from different theological backgrounds and all still respect each other at the end of each trimester. And they keep coming back. 20-some different churches! I understand your premise and know it can be done. Staying focused on Bible study with Logos Bible software is exciting enough.
God bless
{Charley}

Abi Gail

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/264950#Comment_264950

"This is not about Logos Bible Software; let's discontinue this thread."

Oh!...Thank Goodness!!! a Hall Monitor to the rescue! [:P]

Is Mebin

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/264950#Comment_264950

"This is not about Logos Bible Software; let's discontinue this thread."

G'day Matt...I was just trying to put a little humour into it, but I was taken the wrong way (typical Aussie trait)...however, the subject of this thread began off topic (Logos Bible software). I'd like to concur with what one Italian volcano said to another Italian volcano...to all L4 users..."I LAVA You!"

Ben

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/264950#Comment_264950

"This is not about Logos Bible Software; let's discontinue this thread."

Esther 4:13-14

13 Then Mordecai told them to reply to Esther, “Do not think to yourself that in the king’s palace you will escape any more than all the other Jews. 14 For if you keep silent at this time, relief and deliverance will rise for the Jews from another place, but you and your father’s house will perish. And who knows whether you have not come to the kingdom for such a time as this?

Silent Sam

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/264955#Comment_264955

"This is not about Logos Bible Software; let's discontinue this thread."
Oh!...Thank Goodness!!! a Hall Monitor to the rescue!

[^o)] HHHMMMmmm~~~ [^o)]

Abi Gail

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/264928#Comment_264928

In another thread a wise man recently said this: http://community.logos.com/forums/p/34988/264860.aspx#264860

and this: http://community.logos.com/forums/p/34988/264902.aspx#264902

and this: http://community.logos.com/forums/p/34988/264927.aspx#264927

Let Bob run Logos.

Thanks! I had no idea which thread was being referenced. [:P] You bring honor to your star....and do your part to stir up ... ER ... quell Debate.

Michael Anda

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/264877#Comment_264877

I would have liked to have seen Bob use the word 'statistically' instead of 'traditionally.'

Sometimes I just think funny things.

Jack Caviness

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/264905#Comment_264905

/threads could be redirected there by the MVPs.

I have volunteered for many things in my lifetime (US Navy, submarine duty, etc), but I am not a volunteer to supervise these forums. [N]

This is not the purpose of the MVP program, and this one does not want that job. I don't mean to sound harsh, but I want to emphasize that any hint of thread control by MVPs is not an acceptable solution to the problem of abusive posters.

Bob Pritchett is CEO of Logos and one of the founding partners. He owns the ball, the bat, and the playing field. He makes the rules—or lack thereof, not the MVPs.

Michael Anda

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/264965#Comment_264965

I have volunteered for many things in my lifetime (US Navy, submarine duty, etc), but I am not a volunteer to supervise these forums.

Moderating is NOT fun, that much I know. But moderators don't have to make the rules, they are there to enforce them. The rules we have right now, are short, sweet, to the point and above all—WISE! Let's not screw up a good thing here. Anyone with ANY sense KNOWS this is NOT a good forum for theological discussion. DON'T THEY? I'm more than a little unclear about whether we have new, unposted rules, or not. Can I now tell everyone exactly how I feel about a certain 'Reformed' grunge pastor from Seattle, or more precisely, his method? *I* don't even want to hear what I have to say on the subject. If I feel the need to voice my opinion, I'll do so elsewhere. Logos Forums are the perfect place to talk about Logos software and that's about it really. Shoot, I've even been shot down here for asking if a given resource is faith-filled. I wasn't even asking if it was faith-void. But the answers to my simple, sincere, uncharged question has implications all by its lonesome.

BillS

Please stop the theology wars in Logos forums.

Just stop.

Thank you!

Abi Gail

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/264950#Comment_264950

edit: I take my pearls back.

Too Late. You done been Quoted.

In another thread a wise man recently said this: http://community.logos.com/forums/p/34988/264860.aspx#264860

and this: http://community.logos.com/forums/p/34988/264902.aspx#264902

and this: http://community.logos.com/forums/p/34988/264927.aspx#264927

Let Bob run Logos.

Matthew C Jones

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/264965#Comment_264965

/threads could be redirected there by the MVPs.

I have volunteered for many things in my lifetime (US Navy, submarine duty, etc), but I am not a volunteer to supervise these forums.

This is not the purpose of the MVP program, and this one does not want that job. I don't mean to sound harsh, but I want to emphasize that any hint of thread control by MVPs is not an acceptable solution to the problem of abusive posters.

Bob Pritchett is CEO of Logos and one of the founding partners. He owns the ball, the bat, and the playing field. He makes the rules—or lack thereof, not the MVPs.

And I didn't volunteer to be a hall monitor in a Pre-School. I love my Logos software and like to talk with others about it. I don't care for sports, multi-level marketing, or conspiracy theories. I just want to learn how to better use Logos for Bible study. Now if Bob would give me all Logos resources for free, I'd gladly spend 40 hours a week baby-sitting.
[:D] Hey, Bob.... That is a serious offer. No, really. Have your people call my people. [;)] Who loves ya baby?

Abi Gail

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/264992#Comment_264992

Why buy the cow...when you get the milk for free? [:P]