Has Lion Rearranged Finder's organization?

I wanted to report a crash I've noticed with in the last two Betas while opening up a large custom layout. When trying to activate logging I notice the Logos4 folder no longer appears under the Application Support folder in finder. I heard some files were hidden with the Lion Update. I have no idea how to navigate to my resource library or any of the crash log files. Did Lion move this around or am I just not looking in the right spot?

...even searching my Mac HD for folders such as "Logos4" yields no results. "library.db" seems not to exist either (However this can't be true because my L4Mac runs fine on my computer currently)

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Martin Folley

I saw on a apple.com forum that The user/library path is now hidden. (I think it was related to an Adobe folder).

You can use the Finder menu Go ... Go to Folder to get around this, if you know the path ... mine is /Users/Martin/Library/Application support/Logos 4

I happened to have an alias to that location which took me around the 'hidden' part.

You can permanently change a folder to be visible, but my knowledge of this is nill. I am sure KS4J or somebody will step in here (please!)

Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/270392#Comment_270392

You can permanently change a folder to be visible, but my knowledge of this is nill. I am sure KS4J or somebody will step in here (please!)

Apologies: have not yet upgraded to OS X Lion.

Found couple web pages:

=> http://mac.finerthingsin.com/post/7849528212/lion-library-folder-visible

=> http://www.macgurulounge.com/library-folder-mac-os-lion/

Keep Smiling [:)]

Paul N

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/270392#Comment_270392

Ok I found a fix I think:

see these two websites:

http://www.se7ensins.com/forums/topic/428277-unhide-library-folder-in-mac-os-x-107-lion/

and

http://krypted.com/mac-os-x/get-your-library-folder-back-from-the-lion/

I'm almost ecrtain it caused Logos4 and various other programs to reappear in the Library folder. I'm going to make sure I was always going through the same path to look for this folder...

[EDIT] - Thanks KS4J!!

Paul N

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/270395#Comment_270395

Man what a mess Apple has created and for what seems like trivial reasons. Is the wiki able to reflect this kink to Lion users when logging. I wouldn't even know how to word it... a bunch of if... then... statements [:P]

Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/270397#Comment_270397

Man what a mess Apple has created and for what seems like trivial reasons. Is the wiki able to reflect this kink to Lion users when logging. I wouldn't even know how to word it... a bunch of if... then... statements

Wonder which web site was most useful ?

Keep Smiling [:)]

Paul N

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/270398#Comment_270398

Wonder which web site was most useful ?

I like your first one. It doesn't assume everyone knows what their computer's possibly unique file pathing is yet allows the users to understand the concept. Plus it visually shows what Martin was talking about.

=> http://mac.finerthingsin.com/post/7849528212/lion-library-folder-visible

Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/270401#Comment_270401

Wonder if wiki page Diagnostic Logging => How to Report Bugs in Logos 4 Mac looks good ?

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Paul N

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/270402#Comment_270402

looks good to me! Thanks again KS4J

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https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/270403#Comment_270403

Now wonder about wiki Mac Troubleshooting sections:

How to Report Bugs in Logos 4 Mac

Uninstalling and Reinstalling in Logos 4 Mac

Indexer Problems?

Missing Resources

Logos 4 Mac Indexer Automatic Launch

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Paul N

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/270405#Comment_270405

lol! Thats a lot of editing! Can we have a splash screen just appear and ask all Mac users if they have Lion running currently? Its like a Choose Your Own Adventure novel!

[EDIT] W[:O]W KS4J you already did it. Those look good too!

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https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/270406#Comment_270406

[EDIT] WW KS4J you already did it. Those look good too!

Copy and paste helped speed up editing.

Keep Smiling [:)]

Mike Binks

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/270407#Comment_270407

Seeing that we cannot rely on the linked page always being available wouldn't

'hold the Option key when clicking Finder’s Go menu to make a hidden Library option appear'

suffice?

More worrying to me is the prospect of dealing with the convoluted way of turning Logging On and Off - this really should be an option in the preferences menu.

Dewayne Davis

As a side note to this, I have put a link to the logging folder on the Sidebar to make it quick to get to later.

Alan Macgregor

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/270438#Comment_270438

Think I'll leave Lion well alone for now!!

Dan

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/270468#Comment_270468

This article definitely worth looking at: Five quick Lion tips to make the transition easier

Mike Binks

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/270468#Comment_270468

Think I'll leave Lion well alone for now!!

Scaredy Cat :-)

Actually I think Logos is a bit more responsive and I just love the new gestures in Safari.

Wes Saad

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/270420#Comment_270420

Seeing that we cannot rely on the linked page always being available wouldn't

'hold the Option key when clicking Finder’s Go menu to make a hidden Library option appear'

suffice?

My preferred solution to returning Library to its former visibility is:

Open Terminal

Enter the command: chflags nohidden ~/Library

Library will then show up in Finder.

Mark Nigro

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/270420#Comment_270420

Mike, Thanks for the excellent tip. Holding "option" while clicking the "Go" menu makes my true and entire "Library" folder appear. When choosing "Library" the "Logos 4" folder appears.

Patrick S.

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/270397#Comment_270397

Man what a mess Apple has created and for what seems like trivial reasons.

Not really, the real problem is that Logos does not (yet) have a user friendly way for users to save and access log files.

Apple hid the user Library folder to protect it from unsophisticated users who could, by 'playing' around in there, damage things. The very same users who would then complain when things got busted that Apple did not do enough to protect them!

Apple hid it but then also gave people multiple temporary or permanent ways to get to it if necessary

Hold down Option key when choosing Go from menu
Shift-Command-G and type in "~/Library"
various preferences hacks

Anyway we digress from the fact that Logos needs to make a user friendly way for average users to package up logs to report crashes while running beta versions... which they would not need to run in the first place if the software was working well... (oops, was that a note of dissent creeping out [;)] ).

Things like the crash log file dump (for reporting) should never be put into ~/Library/Application Support in the first place, they should be put into something like ~/Documents. Or, if they were to be saved in ~/Library/Application Support/Logos 4 etc., there should be a user friendly way for users to choose the log and export it for emailing or whatever.

I have recently migrated to Lion and I would have to say that it is the best release that Apple has brought out yet.

JT (alabama24)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/272719#Comment_272719

I have recently migrated to Lion and I would have to say that it is the best release that Apple has brought out yet.

Patrick -

I don't have Lion yet, and I am sure that I will agree with you when I do. However, I laughed when I read this. I can hear Steve saying: "This is the best OS we've released yet!" Of course, if it weren't the best one, why release it in the first place?

Wes Saad

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/272735#Comment_272735

I don't have Lion yet, and I am sure that I will agree with you when I do. However, I laughed when I read this. I can hear Steve saying: "This is the best OS we've released yet!" Of course, if it weren't the best one, why release it in the first place?

Oh how little you know Steve Jobs. He would say, "With OS X Lion, we've created the most magical experience yet."

JT (alabama24)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/272764#Comment_272764

I don't have Lion yet, and I am sure that I will agree with you when I do. However, I laughed when I read this. I can hear Steve saying: "This is the best OS we've released yet!" Of course, if it weren't the best one, why release it in the first place?

Oh how little you know Steve Jobs. He would say, "With OS X Lion, we've created the most magical experience yet."

No, he reserves that for the iPad. [:)]

Patrick S.

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/272735#Comment_272735

I have recently migrated to Lion and I would have to say that it is the best release that Apple has brought out yet.

Patrick -

I don't have Lion yet, and I am sure that I will agree with you when I do. However, I laughed when I read this. I can hear Steve saying: "This is the best OS we've released yet!" Of course, if it weren't the best one, why release it in the first place?

Of course, and it also helps that Steve Jobs is the consummate salesman [:D]

I should qualify my statement though. Lion is great, really love it, unfortunately my beautiful new 27" iMac is suffering what appears to be a common problem on Apple forums, it intermittantly crashes playing videos after waking from sleep (I can hear David M. laughing out loud in the background).

This is the very first problem I have ever had in the six Macs I have owned, hopefully Apple will find a solution soon. If anyone is considering a new Sandy Bridge iMac they should be aware of the issue.

https://discussions.apple.com/thread/3194165?start=0&tstart=0