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Peter Banks | Forum Activity | Posted: Fri, Aug 19 2011 8:14 AM | Locked

Using the free PDF to Word converter off of CNET. It is working ok but am seeing random spaces inserted into text.

BTW: PBB is Great I have converted several of my PDF just to get them into Logos. Can hardly wait until the all Thomas Black's Still Truth collection added.

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Brother Mark | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Aug 19 2011 8:44 AM | Locked

Peter,

I personally use Calibri to convert from PDF to RTF (Rich Text Format) which MS Word reads, preserves formatting, etc; and may then be saved in .docx format.  I've also noticed several forum posts from other L4 PBB users that also recommend it.  Its free and you can find it at http://calibre-ebook.com

 

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Bohuslav Wojnar | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Aug 19 2011 8:46 AM | Locked

I don't know about any free converter that would really do a good job with pdf. The best free one I found is Calibre. The best of all (including the paid ones) IMHO is Adobe Acrobat and Nitro. Nitro has also a free cloud-based conversion tool.

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steve clark | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Aug 19 2011 8:59 AM | Locked

Be aware that conversion using Calibre from PDF to RTF does not handle Tables, Textboxes, & Lines well in its conversion.

 

This is the first page of my PDF (it was built in Word using Textboxes and lines; which Logos PB does not recognize). i was hoping that Calibre would have converted it to an image.

After Calibre converted it to RTF this is what shows up in Word.

i had similar experience when a PDF contained a simple table with text in each cell.

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alabama24 | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Aug 19 2011 10:06 AM | Locked

Peter Banks:

What is the Best PDF to Word converter?

I have been using Adobe Acrobat [not the free reader] and have been very pleased. 

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Richard DeRuiter | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Aug 19 2011 10:34 AM | Locked

I recently downloaded a denominational study committee report in PDF, selected all the text (CTRL-A) and copy/pasted into a new Word document. It worked great.

All that was left to do was to tag the headings.

However:

I tried this with another document (made with Cute PDF) and got a bunch of junk mixed in with the text.

I imagine a PDF > Word converter will probably also give mixed results, depending on the formatting of the PDF itself.

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Bill Cook | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Aug 19 2011 11:33 AM | Locked

It seems to depend on a great many undefinable factors. I have tried Nitro with mixed results... I have tried Nemo... really seems to hose the graphics or tables. I have tried online solutions...mixed results.

And, I have tried Acrobat full version - version X. It does OK, but, ignores italicized text and some other minor things - but does the best so far.

Honestly, I have had better luck printing the pdf, scanning, and then doing OCR with OneNote into Word and then digging through. I know this would be a pain on large 'books', but there doesn't seem to be a quick and clean way to do it, to me, so far...

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Brother Mark | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Aug 19 2011 4:27 PM | Locked

Bill Cook:

It seems to depend on a great many undefinable factors.

 sure does Bill.... As Smiley stated earlier, tables seem to be a serious sticking point for the free conversion program.  Lots of expensive programs promise error free 100% conversion... but fail on one thing or another, even the father of PDF file format isn't perfect (Bill, you use Adobe X and I have Adobe 9 with similar results to yours).

For folks that are frustrated by both the high price of commercial solutions that aren't perfect, and free utilities that are likely far below 100%, I've looked at the demo of a relatively inexpensive commercial app that is about as good in my estimation as Adobe itself.  Might want to take a look, and see what you think.

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Robert M. Warren | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Aug 19 2011 6:06 PM | Locked

Richard DeRuiter:
report in PDF, selected all the text (CTRL-A) and copy/pasted into a new Word document. It worked great.

Hi Richard:

I have tried this, also, but with mixed results. Sometimes it works OK, but many times paragraph breaks are at the end of each line (line on screen). I haven't taken one of these all the way through PB compiling, but i suspect those paragraph breaks will cause mischief.

All:

I've tried the free PDF-->Word converters, but they usually use a bunch of text boxes to accomplish the conversion and they also put paragraph breaks at the end of each line on the screen. I'm not sure what the PB compiler will do with those, so i haven't spent any time trying to compile them.

I have tried Calibre, but with disappointing results (weird indents, etc.). I'm fairly sure this is because I haven't taken the time to get the settings right.

One program I have success with is Mobipocket Creator, which is a free program from Amazon's Kindle-predecessor company. I am familiar with it already, since I have been using it for 2-3 years making public domain Kindle books. As part of the process of making the .prc file for the Kindle, it makes an intermediate HTML file (usually found in My Documents\My Publications folder) , which usually looks good. I can then either open up the HTML in Word (sometimes it can't open them because of some odd setting in the file), or open it in a browser, select, copy and paste into Word.

The headings that start chapters are usually preserved in some fairly unique formatting, so once in Word, the first thing I do is select the first chapter heading and choose Home -> Editing -> Select -> Select All Text With Similar Formatting. I then apply the Heading 1 style to the selected text. Just to see how the TOC in PB might look, I create a quick TOC in Word (PB compiler strips this TOC out).

I hope that helps with some ideas / suggestions. Apologies if some of this is kind of obvious to some.

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George | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Mar 26 2012 6:51 AM | Locked

Investintec has a promotion right now for a pdf to word converter if you "like" their product on facebook.


http://www.investintech.com/prod_a2d.htm

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Dominick Sela | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Mar 26 2012 7:53 AM | Locked

George:

Investintec has a promotion right now for a pdf to word converter if you "like" their product on facebook.


http://www.investintech.com/prod_a2d.htm

 

It says you get the "Giveaway Edition". What is that, I don't see it in the features comparison? Is it crippled, with a time limit, etc.?

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George | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Mar 26 2012 7:59 AM | Locked

No it is not the crippled version. It is the full version of the program.  I've used it a number of times and it works well.  Does not have OCR recognition but it can be purchased if wanted.
List of features here:
http://www.investintech.com/products/desktop/a2d/features/

Like most other converters though it does not recognize footnotes.

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Dominick Sela | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Mar 26 2012 8:01 AM | Locked

Dominick Sela:
It says you get the "Giveaway Edition". What is that, I don't see it in the features comparison? Is it crippled, with a time limit, etc.?

 

Answered my own question by just trying it, it's the full features non-Pro version (which means you only lose OCR scanning).

And I must say...

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WOW! This tool is great! I have tried a bunch of them, this one so far has taken 2 of my heavy graphics/text PDF files and converted them PERFECTLY!

Thanks for the tip!

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George | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Mar 26 2012 8:05 AM | Locked

Dominick Sela:

Dominick Sela:
It says you get the "Giveaway Edition". What is that, I don't see it in the features comparison? Is it crippled, with a time limit, etc.?

 

Answered my own question by just trying it, it's the full features non-Pro version (which means you only lose OCR scanning).

And I must say...

...

WOW! This tool is great! I have tried a bunch of them, this one so far has taken 2 of my heavy graphics/text PDF files and converted them PERFECTLY!

Thanks for the tip!

I've tried quite a few of them myself and this one worked the best and had the most options for conversion.  So when I saw it offered for free again I said I have to let people know.  Glad it worked for you.

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Dominick Sela | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Mar 26 2012 8:11 AM | Locked

It does not appear to convert footnotes/endnotes to real Word footnotes/endnotes so they display as such in Logos; not too much of a surprise I guess.

If we could just get a Word macro to do this, we would be set! It takes a while to convert them by hand...

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toughski | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Mar 26 2012 9:13 AM | Locked

has anyone tried BCL easy converter? It has worked really well for me.

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George | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Mar 26 2012 9:55 AM | Locked

Dominick Sela:

It does not appear to convert footnotes/endnotes to real Word footnotes/endnotes so they display as such in Logos; not too much of a surprise I guess.

If we could just get a Word macro to do this, we would be set! It takes a while to convert them by hand...

Footnotes/endnotes are indeed a problem but I don't know of any converter that converts footnotes/endnotes to real Word footnotes/endnotes.

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fgh | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Mar 26 2012 4:21 PM | Locked

Dominick Sela:
WOW! This tool is great! I have tried a bunch of them, this one so far has taken 2 of my heavy graphics/text PDF files and converted them PERFECTLY!

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Dominick Sela:

It does not appear to convert footnotes/endnotes to real Word footnotes/endnotes so they display as such in Logos; not too much of a surprise I guess.

If we could just get a Word macro to do this, we would be set! It takes a while to convert them by hand...

This is a problem I have just begun to come across as well. How do the rest of you do it? Is there a better way than to replace the footnote numbers with new ones, and then copy-and-paste the content?

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tom | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Mar 26 2012 5:54 PM | Locked

Dominick Sela:
WOW! This tool is great! I have tried a bunch of them
Same here.  I did have some minor editing to do, but this is the best tool that I have used so far.

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Brother Mark | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Mar 26 2012 6:28 PM | Locked

Dominick Sela:

WOW! This tool is great! I have tried a bunch of them, this one so far has taken 2 of my heavy graphics/text PDF files and converted them PERFECTLY!

Thanks for the tip!

Agree... this is pretty slick for a freebie!  Yes

 

 

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