Linking Figures of Speech to (any) Bible version.

Richard Porter
Richard Porter Member Posts: 13 ✭✭
edited November 2024 in English Forum

If I have two windows open, one with a Bible  version and the other Bultmann's 'Figures of Speech in the Bible', how do i set Logos 4 so when I am at any verse in the bible window I can link to the places that that verse occurs in 'Figures of Speech in the Bible'?

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  • Linkage not possible due to lack of Bible Index:

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    Can use Find (ctrl+f) within Figures of Speech resource or Search to look for verse references.

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  • MJ. Smith
    MJ. Smith MVP Posts: 54,479

    You can fake it out.

    1. Create a collection that include the Figures of Speech resource (mine also includes the Dictionary of Biblical Imagery)

    2. Create a passage guide that has only one section - collection that you created in 1.

    3. Use a layout (saved or ad hoc) that has the passage guide you built, your bible and your book,.

    4. Link the guide and the bible

    5. It behaves somewhat like you want

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  • Bradley Grainger (Logos)
    Bradley Grainger (Logos) Administrator, Logos Employee Posts: 12,037

    Either a linked Passage Guide (as MJ suggests) or the Cited By tool (http://wiki.logos.com/Cited_By) will find what you're looking for.

    I'd also recommend turning on the "Links to open panels" visual filter in Figures of Speech, so that you can quickly see where the current verse is referenced.

  • Richard Porter
    Richard Porter Member Posts: 13 ✭✭

    Thanks M.J.,

     I was heading in that general  direction before posting my question but got bogged down. I'll give it another try with thee extra help.

  • Living and Learning; added Figures of Speech to my Grammars collection (also includes Dictionary of Biblical Imagery), then used My Exegetical Guide with Grammars section (clicked "more" several times to show four Figures of Speech links), also opened Cited By then clicked "more" to open a search of Grammars collection:

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    Likewise learned Figures of Speech has 4 references for 2 Bible verses (John 1:1-2).

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  • EDUARDO JIMENEZ
    EDUARDO JIMENEZ Member Posts: 435 ✭✭

    Would it be more functional is "Cited by" tool, allows us to choose a specific resource to work with? I don't know if there is some way to do this without having to create a new Collection. From specific to general, be nice to have all the options.

  • DMB
    DMB Member Posts: 14,050 ✭✭✭✭

    Trying to understand your question, are you asking can CitedBy be used without creating a collection?

    The answer is yes, but requires a 'My Tag'.

    Personally I've moved into MyTags instead of Collections since they're a whole lot more flexible to change on the fly. I have about 3,000 resources and MyTags easily manage that.

    If that wasn't your question, my apologies!

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  • Frank Fenby
    Frank Fenby Member Posts: 350 ✭✭

    Personally I've moved into MyTags instead of Collections since they're a whole lot more flexible to change on the fly. I have about 3,000 resources and MyTags easily manage that.

    AMEN! And more accurate than trying to invent some complex rule based on titles etc.

  • Would it be more functional is "Cited by" tool, allows us to choose a specific resource to work with? I don't know if there is some way to do this without having to create a new Collection. From specific to general, be nice to have all the options.

    Cited By has "Show Collections" option that allows collections, series, mytag, and ratings to be chosen.  Also can drag and drop items to rearrange order.

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  • EDUARDO JIMENEZ
    EDUARDO JIMENEZ Member Posts: 435 ✭✭

    " rel="nofollow">Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :) said:

    Cited By has "Show Collections" option that allows collections, series, mytag, and ratings to be chosen.

    Sorry, KS4J, but I don't see it. I mean opening a specific book, monograph, dictionary, etc., not a tag, rated, filtered, built in or personal collection. What I did was to create a "one_resource_wildcard_collection".

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  • John Fidel
    John Fidel MVP Posts: 3,439

    Hi Richard,

    You have some good suggestions above. I will offer a suggestion to develop a few preferred layouts that allow you to find information quickly in your library. For me this is developing some important collections and then including the "Cited By" tool in my layouts. A screen shot is included below of my NT Expository Study Layout and how quickly I can get to "Figures of Speech" references. However the layout also allows me to get to references from Pink, Ramsay or other authors etc.

    I realize that we all work differently, so adapting ideas from various users is probably the best way to find what works best for you. I have a few older videos on this and a few other layouts that can be found on the Logos website, if you want some more information on my layouts. http://www.logos.com/videos/pc  look for User Videoimages.

     

  • Milford Charles Murray
    Milford Charles Murray Member Posts: 5,004 ✭✭✭

    Peace, John!                     Thank you!           Excellent!  Very helpful!

                              And!               Thanks to the others in this thread that got my mind going!      *smile*

     

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  • Jerry M
    Jerry M Member Posts: 1,680 ✭✭✭

    I mean opening a specific book, monograph, dictionary, etc., not a tag, rated, filtered, built in or personal collection. What I did was to create a "one_resource_wildcard_collection".

    Yes, if you have a one book collection numbered as 1 it will show up at the top of your collections list.  As you said it is dynamic, in that you can put any book in it you want for a temporary purpose.  Then you uncheck all other collections in the cited by tool and check that one.  Then set cited by to follow or link it.  Then just click on the reference in cited by to open it to the correct reference.  You could also set cited by to list all open resources if your window isn't too cluttered.

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  • I realize that we all work differently, so adapting ideas from various users is probably the best way to find what works best for you. I have a few older videos on this and a few other layouts that can be found on the Logos website, if you want some more information on my layouts. http://www.logos.com/videos/pc  look for User Video

    Wiki Getting Started with Logos => Layouts includes links to official Logos videos (Mac and PC) plus links to an excellent unofficial video by Mark Barnes.   Layouts section also has Tips and wiki links.

    As use Logos more, am learning to have less open: focus on current study, quickly able to open more resources as desired.  Likewise use many layouts, save and switch when changing study focus.

    " rel="nofollow">Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :) said:

    Cited By has "Show Collections" option that allows collections, series, mytag, and ratings to be chosen.

    Sorry, KS4J, but I don't see it. I mean opening a specific book, monograph, dictionary, etc., not a tag, rated, filtered, built in or personal collection. What I did was to create a "one_resource_wildcard_collection".

    Shalom!

    Peace, understand.  Thankful for discussion, provided incentive to rearrange my Cited By collection order (gathered Perseus collections and series together).  Personally dreaming of specific resource information showing all collection(s) containing that resource (with dynamic rule updating).

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