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Paul N | Forum Activity | Posted: Wed, Oct 5 2011 6:54 AM

Sometimes presenting relevant data in a digestible manner can unite us.  While these are merely my suggestions, I'm hoping they'll help us CP fans get some of these great commentary collections into production sooner.  Please discuss further strategy or what you may find to work better.  Often times enthusiasm for CP resources comes in waves.  Here's to one of them!

Classic Commentaries and Studies on Genesis (22 vols.) - 8,132 pgs; Current peak $40 @ ~91%; I might guess we will be seeing this one out of CP by the end of October.  New bidders keep bidding at the peak ($40); small possibility of reaching $30. ($10 increments)

Classic Commentaries and Studies on Exodus (21 vols.) - 6,309 pgs; Current peak $40 @ ~10%; Encouraged to continue to bid at $40 much like the Genesis collection. ($10 increments)

Classic Commentaries and Studies on Job (18 vols.) - 6,330 pgs; Current peak $25 @ ~50%; May stall before reaching the top.  Encouraged to up bid to $40 with a possible drop to $35 or $30 after crossing the line ($5 increments)

Classic Commentaries and Studies on Psalms (35 vols.) - 15,773 pgs; Current peak $30 @ ~33%; Definitely trending underpriced.  Recommend a $50 bid ($10 increments)

Classic Commentaries and Studies on Daniel (21 vols.) - 6,167 pgs; Current peak $50 @ ~40%; Looks as if bids are split between $30-50; $30 bids and new bidders suggested to bid $40 ($10 increments)

Classic Commentaries and Studies on Luke (24 vols.) - 9,169 pgs; Current peak $50 @ ~28%; Price seems right.  Lack of popularity currently could be the problem.  Suggest bidding $40 or $50 ($10 increments)

Classic Commentaries and Studies on Romans (32 vols.) - 14,377 pgs; Current peak $40 ~52%; Guessing high popularity on this collection; Suggest increasing bids to/placing new bids at $45 with expectation of falling to $40 due to popularity ($5 increments)

Classic Commentaries and Studies on Galatians (24 vols.) - 4,014 pgs; Current peak $40 ~50%; Probably less popular than other collections, yet correctly priced for now.  Suggest $40 bids with hope of dropping to $30 after crossing the line. ($10 increments)

Classic Commentaries and Studies on Revelation (27 vols.) - 12,448 pgs; Current peak $160! ~52%; Good test showing how CP bidding affects progress.  High bidding most likely causing new bidders to shy away (as suggested by others).  Recommend following new peak at $50 with hope of reaching $40 possible. ($10 increments)

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Ted Hans | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Oct 17 2011 8:50 AM

Yes. Well done Paul, much appreciated. I'm in on all.

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Dean J | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Oct 17 2011 9:53 AM

I put a $40 on the Revelation set. As much as I would like to have Elliot's Horae Apocalypticae, there's no way I'm going to pay $160 for it. I hope it comes down.

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Dean J | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Oct 17 2011 9:59 AM

I changed the bidding to $50 as suggested - I see a second peak arising.

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Oct 17 2011 12:28 PM

in another thread I just learned that some of these volumes are abridged ("edited for length").

Thank heavens, I blew this (see below) - I'll claim its the result of still being on my first cup of coffee.

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Todd Phillips | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Oct 17 2011 12:53 PM

MJ. Smith:

in another thread I just learned that some of these volumes are abridged ("edited for length").

No that's not these commentaries.  We were talking about the Crossway Classic Commentaries in that thread.  They are found here: http://www.logos.com/product/820/the-crossway-classic-commentary-collection

Logos' "Classic Commentaries and Studies" collections are not the same thing.  I hear you breathing a sigh of relief.

(And yes, I have no idea why I said "edited for length" instead of "abridged". Stick out tongue)

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Paul N | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Oct 25 2011 6:56 AM

**UPDATE**

Classic Commentaries and Studies on Genesis (22 vols.) - 8,132 pgs; Current peak $40 @ ~91%; I might guess we will be seeing this one out of CP by the end of October.  New bidders keep bidding at the peak ($40); small possibility of reaching $30. ($10 increments)
Successful @ $40 in CP; SHIPS ~11/10/11 @ $149.95!

Classic Commentaries and Studies on Exodus (21 vols.) - 6,309 pgs; Current peak $40 @ ~28% (^18%); Encouraged to continue to bid at $40 much like the Genesis collection. ($10 increments)
[FB 'Likes' = 7]

Classic Commentaries and Studies on Job (18 vols.) - 6,330 pgs; Current peak $25 @ ~50% (^0%); May stall before reaching the top.  Encouraged to up bid to $40 with a possible drop to $35 or $30 after crossing the line. ($5 increments)
[FB 'Likes' = 10]

Classic Commentaries and Studies on Psalms (35 vols.) - 15,773 pgs; Current peak $30 @ ~35% (^2%); Definitely trending underpriced.  Recommend a $50 bid. ($10 increments)
[FB 'Likes' = 40]

Classic Commentaries and Studies on Daniel (21 vols.) - 6,167 pgs; Current peak $50 @ ~42% (^2%); Looks as if bids are split between $30-50; $30 bids and new bidders suggested to bid $40. ($10 increments)
[FB 'Likes' = 0]

Classic Commentaries and Studies on Luke (24 vols.) - 9,169 pgs; Current peak $50 @ ~28% (^0%); Price seems right.  Lack of popularity currently could be the problem.  Suggest bidding $40 or $50. ($10 increments)
[FB 'Likes' = 0]

Classic Commentaries and Studies on Romans (32 vols.) - 14,377 pgs; Current peak $40 @ ~56% (^4%); Guessing high popularity on this collection; Suggest increasing bids to/placing new bids at $45 with expectation of falling to $40 due to popularity. ($5 increments)
[FB 'Likes' = 42]

Classic Commentaries and Studies on Galatians (24 vols.) - 4,014 pgs; Current peak $40 @ ~59% (^9%); Probably less popular than other collections, yet correctly priced for now.  Suggest $40 bids with hope of dropping to $30 after crossing the line. ($10 increments)
[FB 'Likes' = 1]

Classic Commentaries and Studies on Revelation (27 vols.) - 12,448 pgs; Current peak $160! @ ~52% (^0%); Good test showing how CP bidding affects progress.  High bidding most likely causing new bidders to shy away (as suggested by others).  Recommend following new peak at $50 with hope of reaching $40 possible. ($10 increments)
[FB 'Likes' = 14]

Classic Commentaries and Studies on Corinthians (29 vols.) - 7,722 pgs; Current peak $40 @ ~20%; Price looks good. New listing as of 10/19/11. ($10 increments)
[FB 'Likes' = 0]

 

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BillS | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Oct 25 2011 8:40 AM

Thanks for the reminder with links...

I'm now in on Exodus & Corinthians, raised my bid to $50 on Psalms & Luke to make sure I don't miss, but I stayed at $50 on Revelation. I'll pass if it goes for $160. Sure hope a BUNCH of folks jump in at $50 on that one... Was already in on the others. Thanks again!

Many blessings to you.

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Milford Charles Murray | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Oct 25 2011 1:52 PM

Peace to you, Paul!                                ........   and   .........             Always Joy in the Lord!

                 I also appreciate your doing this work for us.  I have received some fantastic deals on community pricing, saving many hundreds of dollars over the years.

                              We serve each other with Community Pricing while enabling Logos to be able to market still another resource each time community pricing is successful.

                              *smile*                                                                2 Thessalonians 3:16

Philippians 4:  4 Rejoice in the Lord always; again I will say, Rejoice. 5 Let your reasonableness be known to everyone. The Lord is at hand..........

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Paul N | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Nov 8 2011 8:41 PM

**UPDATE 2**

Classic Commentaries and Studies on Genesis (22 vols.) - 8,132 pgs; Current peak $40 @ ~91%; I might guess we will be seeing this one out of CP by the end of October.  New bidders keep bidding at the peak ($40); small possibility of reaching $30. ($10 increments)
Successful @ $40 in CP; SHIPS ~11/14/11 @ $149.95!

Classic Commentaries and Studies on Exodus (21 vols.) - 6,309 pgs; Current peak $40 @ ~30% (^2%); Encouraged to continue to bid at $40 much like the Genesis collection. ($10 increments)
[FB 'Likes' = 7]

Classic Commentaries and Studies on Job (18 vols.) - 6,330 pgs; Current peak $25 @ ~50% (^0%); May stall before reaching the top.  Encouraged to up bid to $40 with a possible drop to $35 or $30 after crossing the line. ($5 increments)
[FB 'Likes' = 10]

Classic Commentaries and Studies on Psalms (35 vols.) - 15,773 pgs; Current peak $30 @ ~36% (^1%); Definitely trending underpriced.  Recommend a $50 bid. ($10 increments)
[FB 'Likes' = 40]

Classic Commentaries and Studies on Daniel (21 vols.) - 6,167 pgs; Current peak $50 @ ~43% (^1%); Looks as if bids are split between $30-50; $30 bids and new bidders suggested to bid $40. ($10 increments)
[FB 'Likes' = 0]

Classic Commentaries and Studies on Luke (24 vols.) - 9,169 pgs; Current peak $50 @ ~28% (^0%); Price seems right.  Lack of popularity currently could be the problem.  Suggest bidding $40 or $50. ($10 increments)
[FB 'Likes' = 0]

Classic Commentaries and Studies on Romans (32 vols.) - 14,377 pgs; Current peak $40 @ ~56% (^0%); Guessing high popularity on this collection; Suggest increasing bids to/placing new bids at $45 with expectation of falling to $40 due to popularity. ($5 increments)
[FB 'Likes' = 42]

Classic Commentaries and Studies on Galatians (24 vols.) - 4,014 pgs; Current peak $40 @ ~61% (^2%); Probably less popular than other collections, yet correctly priced for now.  Suggest $40 bids with hope of dropping to $30 after crossing the line. ($10 increments)
[FB 'Likes' = 1]

Classic Commentaries and Studies on Revelation (27 vols.) - 12,448 pgs; Current peak $160! @ ~55% (^3%); Good test showing how CP bidding affects progress.  High bidding most likely causing new bidders to shy away (as suggested by others here, here, here, & here).  Recommend following new peak at $50 with hope of reaching $40 possible. ($10 increments)
[FB 'Likes' = 15]

Classic Commentaries and Studies on Corinthians (29 vols.) - 7,722 pgs; Current peak $40 @ ~25% (^5%); Price looks good. Continue @ $40. ($10 increments)
[FB 'Likes' = 0]

*NEW* Classic Commentaries and Studies on Jeremiah (22 vols.) - 5,858 pgs; Current peak $40 @ ~21% (New listing as of 10/31/11); Current peak looks accurate; possibility of turning down to $30 before going to Pre-pub. ($10 increments)
[FB 'Likes' = 0]

*NEW* Classic Commentaries and Studies on Ephesians (23 vols.) - 8,210 pgs; Current peak $170! @ ~1% (New listing as of 11/8/11); Recommend new peak of $40. ($10 increments)
[FB 'Likes' = 0]

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Paul N | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Nov 18 2011 8:24 AM

**UPDATE 3**

Classic Commentaries and Studies on Genesis (22 vols.) - 8,132 pgs; Current peak $40 @ ~91%; I might guess we will be seeing this one out of CP by the end of October.  New bidders keep bidding at the peak ($40); small possibility of reaching $30. ($10 increments)
Successful @ $40 in CP; SHIPPED ~11/14/11 @ $149.95! Now $199.95

Classic Commentaries and Studies on Exodus (21 vols.) - 6,309 pgs; Current peak $40 @ ~37% (^7%); Encouraged to continue to bid at $40 much like the Genesis collection. ($10 increments)
[FB 'Likes' = 7]

Classic Commentaries and Studies on Job (18 vols.) - 6,330 pgs; Current peak $25 @ ~57% (^7%); May stall before reaching the top.  Encouraged to up bid to $40 with a possible drop to $35 or $30 after crossing the line. ($5 increments)
[FB 'Likes' = 10]

Classic Commentaries and Studies on Psalms (35 vols.) - 15,773 pgs; Current peak $30 @ ~38% (^2%); Definitely trending underpriced.  Recommend a $50 bid. ($10 increments)
[FB 'Likes' = 40]

Classic Commentaries and Studies on Daniel (21 vols.) - 6,167 pgs; Current peak $50 @ ~57% (^14%); Looks as if bids are split between $30-50; $30 bids and new bidders suggested to bid $40. ($10 increments)
[FB 'Likes' = 0]

Classic Commentaries and Studies on Luke (24 vols.) - 9,169 pgs; Current peak $50 @ ~28% (^0%); Price seems right.  Lack of popularity currently could be the problem.  Suggest bidding $40 or $50. ($10 increments)
[FB 'Likes' = 0]

Classic Commentaries and Studies on Romans (32 vols.) - 14,377 pgs; Current peak $40 @ ~58% (^2%); Guessing high popularity on this collection; Suggest increasing bids to/placing new bids at $45 with expectation of falling to $40 due to popularity. ($5 increments)
[FB 'Likes' = 42]

Classic Commentaries and Studies on Galatians (24 vols.) - 4,014 pgs; Current peak $40 @ ~69% (^8%); Probably less popular than other collections, yet correctly priced for now.  Suggest $40 bids with hope of dropping to $30 after crossing the line. ($10 increments)
[FB 'Likes' = 1]

Classic Commentaries and Studies on Revelation (27 vols.) - 12,448 pgs; Current peak $160! @ ~55% (^0%); Good test showing how CP bidding affects progress.  High bidding most likely causing new bidders to shy away (as suggested by others here, here, here, & here).  Recommend following new peak at $50 with hope of reaching $40 possible. ($10 increments)
[[FB 'Likes' = 23]

Classic Commentaries and Studies on Corinthians (29 vols.) - 7,722 pgs; Current peak $40 @ ~33% (^8%); Price looks good. Continue @ $40. ($10 increments)
[FB 'Likes' = 0]

Classic Commentaries and Studies on Jeremiah (22 vols.) - 5,858 pgs; Current peak $40 @ ~35% (^14%); Current peak looks accurate; possibility of turning down to $30 before going to Pre-pub. ($10 increments)
[FB 'Likes' = 0]

Classic Commentaries and Studies on Ephesians (23 vols.) - 8,210 pgs; Current peak $40! @ ~25% (New peak); Recommend new peak of $40. ($10 increments)
[FB 'Likes' = 1]

*NEW* Classic Commentaries and Studies on Leviticus (21 vols.) - 4,849 pgs; Current peak $30 @ ~29% (New listing as of 11/11/11);  Recommend to raise $30 bids to $35 with hope of falling back to $30 after crossing production line. ($5 increments)
[FB 'Likes' = 0]

*NEW* Classic Commentaries and Studies on Matthew (25 vols.) - 9,277 pgs; Current peak $50 @ ~18% (New listing as of 11/16/11); Suggest requesting the option for lower bid choices - $40 for post production line drift. ($10 increments)
[FB 'Likes' = 0]

 

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Friedrich | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Nov 18 2011 8:29 AM

Paul Newsome:
Classic Commentaries and Studies on Revelation (27 vols.) - 12,448 pgs; Current peak $160! @ ~55% (^0%); Good test showing how CP bidding affects progress.  High bidding most likely causing new bidders to shy away (as suggested by others here, here, here, & here).  Recommend following new peak at $50 with hope of reaching $40 possible. ($10 increments)
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yeah, that's what I did from the start.  me no like $160 price point.  Smile

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BillS | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Nov 18 2011 6:41 PM

I'm in on the new ones... THANKS!

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Matthew C Jones | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Nov 18 2011 6:55 PM

Dan DeVilder:
yeah, that's what I did from the start.  me no like $160 price point.  Smile

I'm wondering just how many folks  really  bid $160 on the Revelation set. If only George Somsel would drop his bid, we would see the $50 peak go green.

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David Ames | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Nov 18 2011 7:03 PM

Dan DeVilder:

Paul Newsome:
Classic Commentaries and Studies on Revelation (27 vols.) - 12,448 pgs; Current peak $160! @ ~55% (^0%); Good test showing how CP bidding affects progress.  High bidding most likely causing new bidders to shy away (as suggested by others here, here, here, & here).  Recommend following new peak at $50 with hope of reaching $40 possible. ($10 increments)
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yeah, that's what I did from the start.  me no like $160 price point.  Smile

Me no like 160 but my studies hit Revelation too often.  So Yes to Daniel, Romans and Hebrews at $50 and Revelation at 160 because I must and NO to Psalms, Matthew, Mark, Luke and John because Revelation will take all my Classic Commentaries funds.  [[Yes, some are not offered (yet)]] 

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David Ames | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Nov 18 2011 7:07 PM

Super Tramp:

Dan DeVilder:
yeah, that's what I did from the start.  me no like $160 price point.  Smile

I'm wondering just how many folks  really  bid $160 on the Revelation set. If only George Somsel would drop his bid, we would see the $50 peak go green.

 

His is not the only one [[my bid is at 50 but for me this is a MUST have]]

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Alex Scott | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Nov 18 2011 9:17 PM

Super Tramp:
I'm wondering just how many folks  really  bid $160 on the Revelation set. If only George Somsel would drop his bid, we would see the $50 peak go green.

You DO realize of course that if everyone who bid $160 lowered their bids to $50 that it would NOT increase the $50 peak at all - all those $150 bids have already been factored into the $50 price.  What it WOULD do, is lower the peak at $150 making the $50 the high one.  If none of those $150 bids come down, a lot more people will have to bid at the $50 level to make it surpass the peak at $150.

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Matthew C Jones | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Nov 18 2011 9:28 PM

Alex Scott:
You DO realize of course that if everyone who bid $160 lowered their bids to $50 that it would NOT increase the $50 peak at all - all those $150 bids have already been factored into the $50 price.  What it WOULD do, is lower the peak at $150 making the $50 the high one.

Yes, I realize that. What some (many?)  bidders do not realize is they can bid $50 and there is a good chance they can get it for that. The red line "your bid will likely fail" probably makes many walk away without placing a bid. A better way for the highest bidders to speed up the production may be to lower that green bar to entice more bids, then when it nears completion they can raise it up a little.

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Nov 18 2011 11:32 PM

you know, Super Tramp, this is one case where I refuse to be my brother's keeper. Whether I bid zero or fifteen-zero, I bid the amount I am willing to pay. If my brothers are swayed by factors other than math that's their problem. On the other hand, if someone asks me nicely to but a Coptic source I am unlikely to learn to read but I think is needed in Logos, I'll lend a helping bid.

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Friedrich | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Nov 28 2011 10:40 AM

David Ames:
Me no like 160 but my studies hit Revelation too often.  So Yes to Daniel, Romans and Hebrews at $50 and Revelation at 160 because I must and NO to Psalms, Matthew, Mark, Luke and John because Revelation will take all my Classic Commentaries funds. 

wellllll, here's to hopin' it will (Revelation set) will hit $50, so you can afford the others.  Matthew could be pretty important to eschatology studies.  Wink  I have most of the volumes I want/need for Revelation in Logos and in hardcopy.  Can't afford to spring for $160.  But I get you: we place a premium on what is important/vital to our studies!

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