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Graham Criddle | Forum Activity | Posted: Fri, Oct 21 2011 5:20 AM | Locked

I am using a notesfile to write notes associated with my devotional readings.

I am using a circular icon coloured in orange.

Every time I add a new note to the file I need to explicitly set the colour and the shape of the indicator.

Would it be possible for these to be defaulted to what was used in the previous note in the notesfile?

Graham

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Rich DeRuiter | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Oct 21 2011 7:14 AM | Locked

Graham Criddle:

I am using a notesfile to write notes associated with my devotional readings.

I am using a circular icon coloured in orange.

Every time I add a new note to the file I need to explicitly set the colour and the shape of the indicator.

Would it be possible for these to be defaulted to what was used in the previous note in the notesfile?

Graham

Graham,

At the very bottom of the highlight palette (doesn't scroll) are the words "Use this style by default." It works for me.

But I agree, it would be nice, if Logos remembered our last used style too, with perhaps a one-button solution for each: use last used style/use default style.

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Graham Criddle | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Oct 21 2011 7:20 AM | Locked

Hi Richard

Richard DeRuiter:
At the very bottom of the highlight palette (doesn't scroll) are the words "Use this style by default." It works for me.

Sorry, I can't see this!

Can you be more specific as to where this is?

Thanks, Graham

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Rich DeRuiter | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Oct 21 2011 7:44 AM | Locked

Graham Criddle:
Can you be more specific as to where this is?

Here's a screen shot. Note that this is taken from within the note file itself by clicking on the note icon. For this note file I've chosen a light grey box with double grey underline (it seems the least intrusive, yet still visible method--for me). I captured all around the dialog box to make sure you can see what you're looking at:

The red arrows indicate what this style 'remembers:'  The note indicator, the indicator color, whether or not to simply highlight or not, or if a palette style was chosen, and which one.

Hope this helps.

(Using 4.5 Beta 2)

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Graham Criddle | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Oct 21 2011 7:52 AM | Locked

Thanks Richard - very helpful.

As far as I can see you only get this dialog box (the bit below the note colours) if the note has been created by highlighting - not if it has been created by just adding a note from a text.

I've just tried to apply it and it doesn't seem to affect the icon associated with a note created using the right-click menu on some text.

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Rich DeRuiter | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Oct 21 2011 8:10 AM | Locked

Graham Criddle:
As far as I can see you only get this dialog box (the bit below the note colours) if the note has been created by highlighting - not if it has been created by just adding a note from a text.

Yes I see what you mean. I have a note file with notes that aren't associated with any resource (one of them for keeping stuff associated with these forums!). There is no ability to select a default style there.

What do you mean by "just adding a note from a text"?

Graham Criddle:
I've just tried to apply it and it doesn't seem to affect the icon associated with a note created using the right-click menu on some text.

Not sure I follow.

Are you saying that when you create a new note by right clicking on text in a resource, the default style isn't applied? What sort of text?

Are you saying the default doesn't change existing notes to the default? That's what I wish I could do too! So far, this is not possible.

Are you saying something else? I'm not sure I understand what you're getting at here.

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Graham Criddle | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Oct 21 2011 8:32 AM | Locked

Sorry Richard, apologies for the confusion.

Richard DeRuiter:
What do you mean by "just adding a note from a text"?

All I meant here was that I am reading a Bible text and want to create a note relating to it. To do this I am selecting the text, right-clicking on it, choosing selection and clicking "Add a note to ..."

Richard DeRuiter:
Not sure I follow.

Not surprised - not sure I did!

Hopefully the screenshot below will help

  • The note at the top is the style I am wanting to use in this particular notesfile. It was created using the right-click menu on the passage in Mark
  • The next one was created by highlighting some text, manually changing the indicator to what I wanted and then clicking the "Use this style by default" button
  • The next one was created by highlighting some text, but the indicator didn't take the default style I had selected
  • The last was created by right-clicking on some text and adding a note but again this didn't take the default style I had selected, it did use a different default

Hope this clarifies and makes some sense

Graham

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Rich DeRuiter | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Oct 21 2011 8:45 AM | Locked

Okay, I'm playing around with this a bit.

If I right-click on a Bible verse number (e.g.), I notice I get a different dialog box than if I select that verse number and then right click. If I then add a note from a reference selection, I don't get my default style in the note file. But if I click text, it automatically selects the word I clicked and offers to let me add a note to the Selection or the Reference.

It seems the difference is related to whether or not the note is added to Selection or Reference, regardless of other factors.

Does that represent what you're seeing?

Regardless, we may want to add a suggestion that Logos allows us to select a default box style & color for notes attached to a Reference.

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Dave Hooton | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Oct 21 2011 1:07 PM | Locked

Richard DeRuiter:
Regardless, we may want to add a suggestion that Logos allows us to select a default box style & color for notes attached to a Reference.

And then how would we know what the defaults are? Ffor then there will be two defaults and there is no visible indication in the Highlighting tool nor the Note file (if both are visible) nor the Context menu.

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Graham Criddle | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Oct 22 2011 1:49 AM | Locked

HI gents

Sorry for leaving the conversation - I had to go and speak at our youth service.

Richard DeRuiter:
If I right-click on a Bible verse number (e.g.), I notice I get a different dialog box than if I select that verse number and then right click

I seem to get the same either way - the variance seems to be related to whether I have "Selection" or "Reference" selected

Richard DeRuiter:
If I then add a note from a reference selection, I don't get my default style in the note file.

Agreed - and this seems strange. Or at least it suggests that the "default style" open relates to highlights and not notes created in this way

Richard DeRuiter:

It seems the difference is related to whether or not the note is added to Selection or Reference, regardless of other factors.

Does that represent what you're seeing?

Yes, this is exactly what I am seeing.

So the "Selection"-style created note uses the default style whereas the "Reference"-style created note doesn't.

Richard DeRuiter:
Regardless, we may want to add a suggestion that Logos allows us to select a default box style & color for notes attached to a Reference.

Dave Hooton:
And then how would we know what the defaults are? Ffor then there will be two defaults and there is no visible indication in the Highlighting tool nor the Note file (if both are visible) nor the Context menu.

I think I would be just as happy with it simply using the same style as that last used in the notes file. It avoids the need for further controls and is - as far as I can see - just as valid an option as using a Logos-specified default.

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Dave Hooton | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Oct 22 2011 4:42 AM | Locked

Graham Criddle:

Dave Hooton:
And then how would we know what the defaults are? Ffor then there will be two defaults and there is no visible indication in the Highlighting tool nor the Note file (if both are visible) nor the Context menu.

I think I would be just as happy with it simply using the same style as that last used in the notes file. It avoids the need for further controls and is - as far as I can see - just as valid an option as using a Logos-specified default.

That is sensible as I keep the Note file open and can see what styles/indicators are being applied.

 

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Graham Criddle | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Oct 25 2011 1:32 PM | Locked

Hi Melissa

Just wondered if you had had a chance to look at this thread and whether you had any thoughts / comments?

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Melissa Snyder | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Oct 25 2011 3:04 PM | Locked

Graham Criddle:

Hi Melissa

Just wondered if you had had a chance to look at this thread and whether you had any thoughts / comments?

Graham

 

I may be misunderstanding what you're wanting to do, but it seems that the ability to choose a default highlighting style for this type of note is already available. When you add a note to selected text and click on the note indicator for the newly added note in corresponding document, you can select a highlighting style and then you can click on "Use this style by default" which will be used for any subsequent notes added to selected text which are added to that Notes document.

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Rich DeRuiter | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Oct 25 2011 3:30 PM | Locked

Melissa Snyder:

Graham Criddle:

Hi Melissa

Just wondered if you had had a chance to look at this thread and whether you had any thoughts / comments?

Graham

 

I may be misunderstanding what you're wanting to do, but it seems that the ability to choose a default highlighting style for this type of note is already available. When you add a note to selected text and click on the note indicator for the newly added note in corresponding document, you can select a highlighting style and then you can click on "Use this style by default" which will be used for any subsequent notes added to selected text which are added to that Notes document.

This is true for notes added to "Selection".

However, if you want to add a note to a "Reference" (not to "selection"), then the default is not remembered, and no option to use a default icon/palette is visible. Some users prefer to add notes to a Reference so that it is visible in all their Bibles. It is rather cumbersome that Logos doesn't allow for a user preference, nor does it remember the last selected style.

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Melissa Snyder | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Oct 25 2011 3:48 PM | Locked

Richard DeRuiter:

However, if you want to add a note to a "Reference" (not to "selection"), then the default is not remembered, and no option to use a default icon/palette is visible. Some users prefer to add notes to a Reference so that it is visible in all their Bibles. It is rather cumbersome that Logos doesn't allow for a user preference, nor does it remember the last selected style.

I'll submit the suggestion for consideration.

Update:  This will be included in Beta 6 for Mac and Windows versions.

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Dave Hooton | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Nov 15 2011 8:41 PM | Locked

Melissa Snyder:
Update:  This will be included in Beta 6 for Mac and Windows versions.

I don't think the implementation in B6 is what was being asked  e.g. a different note indicator for "Notes by Reference".

If I click Matt 2:3 and apply its style as Default then new "Notes by Selection" have the same note indicator and orange highlighting (which is Yuk!). Conversely, if Matt 5:15 becomes the Default new "Notes by Reference" have the same note indicator (and no highlighting is applied).

What do you think, Richard and Graham?

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Graham Criddle | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Nov 15 2011 11:20 PM | Locked

Hi Dave

Actually this works just fine for me and I am pleased to see it (thanks Logos)

I see it could be useful to have different defaults for notes based on "Selection" or "Reference" - and understand more fully the comment you posted earlier.

However, I almost exclusively generate notes by reference and so this working is fine as far as I am concerned. If I were to create a note by selection I would be happy to change the indicators.

I totally understand others may generate notes differently and would be fine if there were a different default for each type (Selection or Reference)

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Rich DeRuiter | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Nov 15 2011 11:32 PM | Locked

Dave Hooton:
What do you think, Richard and Graham?

I rarely attach notes to reference, since they tend to show up in commentaries and such too, and after a while it gets too distracting, so I generally attach notes to my primary Bible. The opposite of my brother Graham, apparently.

I was fine with how they worked before and am happy with how they work now.

I might be happier if I could set a default style for each note file, but I'd rather Logos put its efforts elsewhere (still waiting on the Sermon File addin, e.g.).

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Nov 16 2011 12:29 AM | Locked

My practice matched Graham's - and they are filtered out of the commentaries.

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Dave Hooton | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Nov 16 2011 5:11 AM | Locked

MJ. Smith:
My practice matched Graham's - and they are filtered out of the commentaries.

Notes by Reference are still in  commentaries!

Here's a real bug, though   -- you can try but you won't find them anywhere, even though Annotation is switched on (in Locator bar).

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