Suggestion: Improve "Bookmark" metaphor.

This seems like a suggestion that someone would have previously made, but I couldn't find one; apologies in advance if I'm duplicating.

Bookmarking is fairly limited in Logos 4. I should be able to have as many bookmarks as I want in a book. I should also be able to use a short-cut that lets me popup my bookmarks and filter them by book, collection, tags, my mood, etc. This list should make it easy for me to jump back and forth between bookmarks. Perhaps there is even a short-cut key to jump back and forth between my last selected bookmark and my furthest position read. There should also be an automatic bookmark that saves the furthest page read so that if I jump to a prior bookmark, I can easily jump back to my prior location. I should have the option to delete any bookmark, a combination of bookmarks, all bookmarks for a book, etc. In other words, I should be able to have a series of book marks that I can easily get rid of in addition to being easily able to add them. I should also be able to write a short description for the bookmark, so that when I'm looking at a list of bookmarks I have a keyword that's meaningful to me and allows me to quickly jump to where I need to go. Color coding bookmarks would be neat, but not essential. There should also be some clear visual indicator that I've bookmarked a spot; preferably an elegant visual cue that's not distracting, but is still obvious.

As long as I'm asking for the moon - I'd like my bookmarks, as so conceived, to sync with my iPad and my android phone.

On a related note, the furthest page read should sync between my devices like my kindle does.

I'd also like the act of bookmarking to result in residual income that's placed in my bank account. This last suggestion isn't essential to the rest of my suggestion .

The way I work with physical books is I bookmark different places I'm flipping back and forth from. This is especially important when I'm working with more complicated works. Logos doesn't have much in the way of philosophy, but one of the reasons I don't buy philosophy books on kindle, when they are available, is that they're just too complicated to read effectively electronically. I find myself jumping back and forth frequently trying to refresh my memory of the nuances of some argument being made. I find myself doing the same thing when I'm working with commentaries, language tools, etc.

Maybe I'm just missing some radically powerful feature in Logos... but if all I have at my disposal is the bookmarks feature hidden under tools:favorites, then I find myself wanting for more.

Blessings,

- jp

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Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :)

Observation: when Books are dragged into Favorites, the resource location is included. Favorites can have many entries for one resource, so can click different Favorite links to hop back and forth.

Also, your Personal Book can have resource links, which could be organized and include comments with several links so can quickly click to hop around in resource.

Notes hyperlinking may be another possibility. Personally prefer Personal Book(s) for backup and recovery using docx file(s).

Looking forward to Sync v2 framework improvements; not know when will be ready for quick, reliable use by Logos user community. Likewise not know when to anticipate resource locations quickly syncing across platforms.

Keep Smiling [:)]

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/325735#Comment_325735

Observation: when Books are dragged into Favorites, the resource location is included. Favorites can have many entries for one resource, so can click different Favorite links to hop back and forth.

The favorites method lacks the tight integration I suggested. I'm not saying that what's in Logos can't be twisted to work... it's just not terribly elegant or seamless.

Personal Books is a work around... My bookmark suggestion is in hopes of a solution that allows Logos to remain as transparent to the researcher as possible. Having separate docx files and having to create personal books is more work than I'm typically willing to put in when I'm working on a research paper. For me, the tool should be as transparent to the ends as possible.

You're right that Notes could be adapted to this purpose. It'd be messy for me, however, to mix bookmarks with notes... but that might do the trick for the moment. Notes is another area of frustration for me. I LOVE Logos... but it just seems like there's all these elements of it that are pretty darn close, but not quite there.

If I had to sum up my sentiment towards Logos, it would be that it works well enough, but it lacks an overall elegance.

That being said, I'm not complaining, but rather suggesting in hopes of even better iterations of this software in the future.

Thanks for the suggested work arounds. I'll play with them and see if I can get it to work well with my workflow.

Blessings!

- jp

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/325746#Comment_325746

Here's a link to Uservoice if you care to vote for this idea:

http://logos.uservoice.com/forums/42823-logos-bible-software-4/suggestions/2515239-better-bookmark-features

Rosie Perera

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/325750#Comment_325750

Great idea, J.P. I voted for it.

JimTowler

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/325752#Comment_325752

JP,

If I might ask, is your main Logos 4 on Mac or Windows PC?

If PC, then there is an API that permits tracking every move as you navigate around any resource. It also permits openning or navigating to any location. For windows PC only, it would enable a very powerful way to flick back and forward in exteremly powerful ways. It would of course need yourself or someone to write a bit of code, but the starting point is the API and the desire for such a thing.

Sorry the idea above offers nothing directly that would be any use for Mac or iOS or Android or Web clients. Windows only.

But if you are on Windows, just say the word and maybe someone will be inspired to build as I have hinted at. I sure could use it myself, and if they build it, users will flock to it. It could be the next big hit of 2012!

Regards,

Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/325746#Comment_325746

If I had to sum up my sentiment towards Logos, it would be that it works well enough, but it lacks an overall elegance.

Having seen many books with sticky notes attached for quick flipping, wonder about a set of tabs that could be displayed along any side of the resource panel for quick flip locations. Ideally, the tabs would allow some labeling with highlighting (similar to a thumb indexed dictionary with a letter sticker). Preferably each resource would have an option to show/hide tab locations along with position in panel.

Keep Smiling [:)]

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/325752#Comment_325752

Great idea, J.P. I voted for it.

Thanks! [;)]

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/325761#Comment_325761

f PC, then there is an API that permits tracking every move as you navigate around any resource.

Hi Jim,

That sounds like it would be very powerful... and I happen to be a former c# software engineer so that might have been a fun project! Unfortunately, I switched over to using a Mac Air as my primary computer.

I'm going to have a look at the API just for fun. Thanks for the heads up!

- jp

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/325769#Comment_325769

Having seen many books with sticky notes attached for quick flipping, wonder about a set of tabs that could be displayed along any side of the resource panel for quick flip locations. Ideally, the tabs would allow some labeling with highlighting (similar to a thumb indexed dictionary with a letter sticker). Preferably each resource would have an option to show/hide tab locations along with position in panel.

That's a great idea! Perhaps there could be an option when editing/creating a bookmark to activate it as a tab. That way, if you have numerous bookmarks, you could control the clutter.

- jp

Brother Mark

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/325818#Comment_325818

J.P, although you didn't explicitly mention bookmarks that are built into Logos 4 as a subset of Favorites, I suspect that Mo's article HERE may help you navigate them more easily to satisfy your list (with the probable exception of income generation per bookmark).