Logos 4.5b Beta 2 Morph Search Grid Results Puzzling ? ?
Follow-up to thread => grammatical search of the genitive case in the Greek New Testatment
Found a bit of a puzzle: changing from Morph Search
to Bible Search allows for Grid search, whose results have some oddities among Logos Greek Morphology resources:
Logos 4.5b Beta 2 on Mac and Windows appear to have identical oddities (adventure perhaps ?).
Looking at Matthew 1:1 in LDGNT, puzzled by Grid search result having a blank box. Appears some Names have variant tagging (e.g. genitive is a bit inconsistent).
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I'm probably just missing it, but is the puzzling behavior you're referring to the shift from 'before 2 words' to 'before 0-2 words'? If so, are you still getting this incorrect behavior? I can't reproduce that issue in 4.5b Beta 4.
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Tonya J Ross said:
If so, are you still getting this incorrect behavior?
Using Logos 4.5b Beta 4 on Mac and PC, have some puzzling search results. For example, Matthew 1:1 is not found in LDGNT:
Puzzled by Matthew 1:17 not being found in Lexham Syntactic Greek New Testament. Personally learned Names can have XP tagging (non-declinable), which can vary a bit between Greek resources. For Matthew 4:4 was a bit surprised by results found in UBS4:
Also noted several more results that were not found, which appear to match search condition.
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Using Logos 4.5b Beta 4 on Mac and PC, have some puzzling search results. For example, Matthew 1:1 is not found in LDGNT:
There appears to be an indexing error in the LDGNT: the word Βίβλος is not indexed. (Right-click it, choose Search this resource, and it will find 0 hits.) I've filed a bug for this case.
Puzzled by Matthew 1:17 not being found in Lexham Syntactic Greek New Testament.
For the LSGNT, no hit is found because "Prepositional" and "Phrase" count as intervening words. (This is by design; to search by word proximity in Greek, search a plain Greek NT.)
RE: UBS4 "Before two words ?" -- this looks like an indexing bug; possibly the same as in LDGNT.
RE: LSGNT: SBL "Puzzling not found in Morph Search results" -- there are intervening words.
RE: LDGNT: "Not Found ?" -- the second morph is NDSM, which doesn't match the query.
RE: Lexham SGNT and OpenText GNT "Not Found ?" -- the intervening characters count as words for the query.
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Bradley Grainger (Logos) said:
There appears to be an indexing error in the LDGNT: the word Βίβλος is not indexed. (Right-click it, choose Search this resource, and it will find 0 hits.) I've filed a bug for this case.
Thanks [8-|] for confirming a bug.
Bradley Grainger (Logos) said:Puzzled by Matthew 1:17 not being found in Lexham Syntactic Greek New Testament.
For the LSGNT, no hit is found because "Prepositional" and "Phrase" count as intervening words. (This is by design; to search by word proximity in Greek, search a plain Greek NT.)
Appreciate puzzle explanation [8-|]
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Bradley Grainger (Logos) said:
RE: UBS4 "Before two words ?" -- this looks like an indexing bug; possibly the same as in LDGNT.
This indexing bug will be fixed in 4.5c Beta 3. There are a handful of instances in UBS4 Int. where word proximity queries will give incorrect results (as shown above); to fix it you will need to run "rebuild index" in 4.5c Beta 3.
(LDGNT turned out to be a resource error, not an indexing bug; it will require a resource update to fix.)
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Bradley Grainger (Logos) said:Bradley Grainger (Logos) said:
RE: UBS4 "Before two words ?" -- this looks like an indexing bug; possibly the same as in LDGNT.
This indexing bug will be fixed in 4.5c Beta 3. There are a handful of instances in UBS4 Int. where word proximity queries will give incorrect results (as shown above); to fix it you will need to run "rebuild index" in 4.5c Beta 3.
(LDGNT turned out to be a resource error, not an indexing bug; it will require a resource update to fix.)
Looking forward to rebuilding indexes in 4.5c Beta 3 on Mac and PC while wondering how many hours for each ? (currently anticipating PC to finish indexing hours sooner than Mac)
Thanks for LDGNT insights; looking forward to resource update soon (using Logos historical word usage).
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