Hi have been making a couple of PB's which are definitely from a Non-Christian point of view, but useful for quoting whien refuting their viewpoint/message.
Have made a warning label, which I put on the first page of the document, which may be useful to some of you
or maybe not
Never Deprive Anyone of Hope.. It Might Be ALL They Have
DominicM:Have made a warning label, which I put on the first page of the document, which may be useful to some of you
Interesting. I personally have no problem with adding labels to works we create as Personal Books, Many people consult with trusted friends and Pastors when they seek out books to read. Our local Bible college puts these type of labels in books they deem heretical or contain doctrinal error.
All that being said I do not want Logos making judgemental calls on what resources are trustworthy.
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Super Tramp:I do not want Logos making judgemental calls on what resources are trustworthy
That is why I a six point Calvinist want to see this make it into production ASAP.
Right: Let the reader beware! Logos should let the reader decide in their own mind if something is "Heresy"
As far as personal books, if someone want to put a warning in some PB, so be it, some of us may look upon it as badge of honer or a "selling point" .
Dr. Tom Rach, www.hombrereformado.org Solo a Dios la Gloria Apoyo
"Yesterday's heretics are today's saints." (think of all who were burned at the stake or otherwise dispatched for their supposedly heretical views whom we now revere)
He drew a circle that shut me out —Heretic, rebel, a thing to flout.But Love and I had the wit to win:We drew a circle that took him in.
-- Edwin Markham (1852-1940)
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Only a weak faith will be threatened by reading a book.
Rosie Perera: "Yesterday's heretics are today's saints." (think of all who were burned at the stake or otherwise dispatched for their supposedly heretical views whom we now revere) He drew a circle that shut me out —Heretic, rebel, a thing to flout.But Love and I had the wit to win:We drew a circle that took him in. -- Edwin Markham (1852-1940)
Thanks for sharing this Rosie
Super Tramp:All that being said I do not want Logos making judgemental calls on what resources are trustworthy
True 99% of time, but in some cases like Koran, and future Islamic studies collection I strongly disagree..
I am not saying use it or that anyone should, I am just saying here it is if you chose to, and if you did you could add the reason for adding the label, which may help if it got shared in the future, but as I say is optional
Chris myers: Only a weak faith will be threatened by reading a book.
true, but we are all at different points in our spiritual journey, I would rather pre-warn, than be responsible for accidentally leading someone into error
True, but again, I know a few ex-believers that said the same thing.
Therefore let anyone who thinks that he stands take heed lest he fall. (1Co 10:12)
Alain Maashe: True, but again, I know a few ex-believers that said the same thing. Therefore let anyone who thinks that he stands take heed lest he fall. (1Co 10:12)
I think we should allow plenty of room and time for the Holy Spirit to work. A faith structure that can be so easily destroyed might be better off being torn down and rebuilt on what the individual finds to be a more intellectually honest foundation. The entirety of scripture is filled with cycles of creation, sin, judgment, repentance, and redemption. So are the lives we all lead.
Just because we can do something does not mean that we should do that very thing, it is all too easy to veer into antinomianism.
Chris myers: Alain Maashe: True, but again, I know a few ex-believers that said the same thing. Therefore let anyone who thinks that he stands take heed lest he fall. (1Co 10:12) I think we should allow plenty of room and time for the Holy Spirit to work. A faith structure that can be so easily destroyed might be better off being torn down and rebuilt on what the individual finds to be a more intellectually honest foundation. The entirety of scripture is filled with cycles of creation, sin, judgment, repentance, and redemption. So are the lives we all lead.
Agreed. Alain, I wonder whether those ex-believers you know were believing in the real thing?
Graffiti seen on a library carrel: "If you're running away from a false idea of God, are you getting farther from God or closer?" (or something to that effect)
Tom Rach: That is why I a six point Calvinist want to see this make it into production ASAP.
Is that meant to be a joke or did I miss something in my theological education? 6 point?
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יְמֵי־שְׁנוֹתֵינוּ בָהֶם שִׁבְעִים שָׁנָה וְאִם בִּגְבוּרֹת שְׁמוֹנִים שָׁנָה וְרָהְבָּם עָמָל וָאָוֶן
You can be 6 point or 7 point :)
George Somsel: Tom Rach: That is why I a six point Calvinist want to see this make it into production ASAP. Is that meant to be a joke or did I miss something in my theological education? 6 point?
A Joke, It may Not a Good One, but it is Still a Joke.
Got it off of this site: http://www.apuritansmind.com/tulip/the-6-point-calvinist/
Alexander Longacre: You can be 6 point or 7 point :)
I thought only bucks could have that many. OK, what is a 6 point or a 7 point Calvinist? Amend my education.
Yep, just found that out searching for the source of my 6 point remark.
Search: 6 point Calvinist and you get lots of hits.
George here is a web site (blog) that talks about the 6 point view.
http://www.fundamentallyreformed.com/2007/11/14/6-point-calvinism-the-atonement-question/
The seven point view is talked about here: http://www.desiringgod.org/resource-library/articles/what-does-piper-mean-when-he-says-hes-a-seven-point-calvinist
Tom Rach: The seven point view is talked about here: http://www.desiringgod.org/resource-library/articles/what-does-piper-mean-when-he-says-hes-a-seven-point-calvinist
Some rather suspect theology there. Read Lorraine Boettner The Reformed Doctrine of Predestination where he speaks of efficacious grace. It is not a simple desire on God's part but an actual undertaking to perform.
George Somsel:The Reformed Doctrine of Predestination
Do sure what piper said because I don´t have his book. The link shows Matt´s view of what "Piper says".
Would you recommend Boettner´s book?
http://www.logos.com/product/6242/the-reformed-doctrine-of-predestination