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NB.Mick | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Oct 10 2013 8:12 AM

Sleiman:

One more book by Steve Ray is now available to write a review on: Crossing the Tiber

Thanks for pointing us, I'm in!

The 2-vol Steve ray Collection now says "Almost there", but surely needs some more momentum (maybe I'll really write a review). However, I see that there are more: https://www.logos.com/products/search?Author=Ray%2C+Stephen+K.&start=&sort=pricelo 

Steve also authored some of the "Catholic Scripture Study International" resources that made it to Logos in the meantime. I somehow missed that, so thanks again for reviving this thread! The CSSI resources come complete with downloadable small-group leader material - I'm willing to buy one to check them out.

While I'm deliberating (go cheap on Ruth or deep on First Corinthians?) - does anybody know what I'll be missing due to the fact that Logos only offers me an "International Version"? I'd expect them to tell me on the product page, but zip. Note that my links go to the "international version" which purportedly is contained in the same-priced "normal" one, such as https://www.logos.com/product/33789/catholic-scripture-study-international-the-book-of-ruth - I love that Logos prevents me to even see that page :-((     

Im know that some packages will lack products where Logos only has US or North-America licences (such as the CCC), but what is it they leave out in such a resource - links? citations? Or is the content the same but Logos need to track sales per region for royalty payments to Ignatius and other publishers?

Curious,

Mick  

 

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Sleiman | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Oct 10 2013 10:16 AM

NB.Mick:
what is it they leave out in such a resource - links? citations? Or is the content the same but Logos need to track sales per region for royalty payments to Ignatius and other publishers?
Excellent question. I too would like to know. As a Canadian I also see the 'international version'.

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NB.Mick | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Oct 12 2013 5:29 PM

fgh:

NB.Mick:
We need some more buyers to put this into development, though...

Agreed. Go write a review on the product page.Smile Make sure to point out that you're not Catholic. That will make other non-Catholics more willing to trust the recommendation.

I just did (hope it suits you - otherwise why not do one yourself and show me how to make it better;-) . I really do hope this crosses into production soon.

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fgh | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Oct 12 2013 6:19 PM

NB.Mick:
I just did (hope it suits you

It did.Smile

NB.Mick:
why not do one yourself

I can't review something I haven't read, can I?Smile

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NB.Mick | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Oct 13 2013 1:34 PM

fgh:

NB.Mick:
why not do one yourself

I can't review something I haven't read, can I?

You could read it before, and I share your opinion here, that people should read something before they review it (not always to be taken for granted these days).

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NB.Mick | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Oct 14 2013 4:10 AM

Sleiman:

NB.Mick:
what is it they leave out in such a resource - links? citations? Or is the content the same but Logos need to track sales per region for royalty payments to Ignatius and other publishers?
Excellent question. I too would like to know. As a Canadian I also see the 'international version'.

In the meantime I bought the "International Version" Bible Study on Ruth, a very nice resource with some good insights into the character of the protagonists of the book. Didn't notice anything missing, CCC-links work. Maybe someone who owns the non-international version of this international bible study resource (;-) can speak up and we compare them? Logos so far is silent

EDIT: I just put a review comment onto the product page - the international one, of course. But by logging out, it seems I can view the "non-international version" which contains the comment nonetheless (but then, probably based on some cookies, even though logged out it still says that I wrote the comment). I'm unclear how the Logos website differentiates here, the SKU (Logos internal product number) in the two URLs is the same. The pages look identical save that the non-international doesn't show downloadable PDFs - is this the difference? If so, I'm very glad! Or is it because these are shown only to logged-in users?

In case you poor US guys can't see the review comment, I'll replicate it here:

Five out of five stars

Very nice!

This resource is a classical bible study resource, which gives ample background information for the text (such as ancient agricultural processes, the levirate marriage law etc), the usual study questions which can be answered from the text or other biblical references and some deeper questions for reflection. Since this is a catholic resource, one will find a "from rome to home " section with quotes from a recent pope, some quotes of church fathers/well-known techers such as Aquinas and a section with CCC links for further study. 

A non-RC user of this resource might find the quotes beneficial regardless of their denominational heritage and look into the CCC for curiosity (or disregard this section). The exegetical/pastoral insights in the overall introduction and the "points to ponder" section, which give the commentary on Ruth, focus on the character of the protagonists and time and again remind us of the role of Ruth in the history of God's plan of salvation. I learnt some things and got reminded of some forgotten/buried ones as well. 

The really very affordable resource includes not only the Logos file (including fill-in the blank boxes and some b/w-pictures of agricultural life in the pre-modern Near East), but also PDF versions of the Lessons (probably meant to print out for study group participants - the suggested responses come in a separate PDF file) and a Group Leader handbook. I wouldn't hesitate to recommend this for non-RC study groups or people who want to dive into the book of Ruth by themselves.

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NB.Mick | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Oct 15 2013 9:49 AM

NB.Mick:

The 2-vol Steve ray Collection now says "Almost there", but surely needs some more momentum

Seems that momentum took in (maybe somewhat fuelled by our thread) - it looks like the collection needs only one more bid to go into production:

 

EDIT: ha, and now it's under development!

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