Search features that are most needed in Logos

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Mark Barnes | Forum Activity | Posted: Tue, May 29 2012 1:52 AM

Logos search is (mostly) fantastic, but there are a few really important features that are missing. I've tried to collect them into one post so that I can create a specific UserVoice request that you all can vote on if you agree with me. Bob understandably doesn't like multiple requests rolled up into one UserVoice post, as it makes it difficult to tell which of the requests people actually want. So if you vote, please can you use the comments on UserVoice to also make it clear which requests of those below would be most useful to you:

Click here to vote on UserVoice
(and forgive the very annoying typo when you get there)

 

An IN keyword (to restrict searches to parts of resources that deal with specific references)
e.g. prophecy IN <bible ~ 1 Cor 12-14>
This example would return results containing the word 'prophecy', but only if it appeared in a commentary or other resource that specifically dealt with 1 Corinthians 12-14.

When you're searching, particularly in commentaries, it would often be very useful to restrict your search to those parts of the commentaries that deal with part of the Bible. Although you can create collections to help, this doesn't solve most of the problems because (a) The range you want to restrict the search to is often smaller than the range a resource covers, and (b) Creating collections for each Bible book is very time consuming.

 

A LINK reference type (to search for resources that link to other resources)
e.g. <LINK = NBD:Page 470>
This example would return all resources that link to page 470 of the New Bible Dictionary.

When you come across a useful section in a resource, you'll want to know what other resources link to it. A simple search criteria (which could be automatically generated from the right-click menu) is essential. At the moment we can only search for reference types, not links. The cited by tool should handle this feature, of course.

 

Remove the restriction that NEAR results have to be in the same article

When you use the NEAR or WITHIN xx WORDS keywords, Logos insists that the matching words also have to be in the same article (in Bible searches this means the same Bible verse). This is an arbitrary restriction, which does not meet users' expectations — particularly when several resources have article divisions placed at random points just to make them shorter. NEAR should mean NEAR.

 

Add a TOPIC keyword

Currently, the only way to search for a topic is to search your entire library and use the topic section. If you know you're only interested in topics, this can make the search slow. There ought to be a way of just searching topics, without having to search the whole library. (Bob has said this is planned already.)

 

Allow users to search for highlighting
e.g. <HIGHLIGHTING = "Red Background">
This example would return all those places you'd highlighted with the red background highlighter.

Whilst we can currently search IN highlighting, we can't search FOR highlighting. The two workarounds are very unsatisfactory (they're use the * wildcard, which is horribly slow and gives OOM errors; or use the up/down arrows which only works if you know what resource to look in).

An an indicator that clearly shows whether you're doing a strict-match or case-sensitive search

It's great to be able to run these searches, but because the setting 'sticks', it's really easy to forget the setting is turned on, and end up wasting lots of time getting bad results. These settings should be visible in the search results, not just on the dropdown menu.

 

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Paul-C | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, May 29 2012 2:01 AM

Those search options would be useful, Mark.  You've got my votes on UserVoice.

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Graham Criddle | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, May 29 2012 2:31 AM

Thanks Mark

Great suggestions - I have added my votes

Graham

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Mark Barnes | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, May 29 2012 3:01 PM

Twenty-two votes so far! Any other takers?

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tom | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, May 29 2012 3:22 PM

As soon as I have some free votes, they are going to this request.

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Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :) | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, May 29 2012 4:13 PM

tom collinge:

As soon as I have some free votes, they are going to this request.

User Voice allows vote(s) to be removed from other suggestion(s) so your votes reflect your suggestion priorities.

One option is commenting on suggestion(s) before removing vote(s) so can filter My Feedback to see interesting suggestions for future voting.

Noticed => Improce search (restrict search to parts of a resource, search for citations to resources, etc.) is now on page 4 of Top Ideas with 24 votes.

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tom | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, May 29 2012 4:53 PM

Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :):

tom collinge:

As soon as I have some free votes, they are going to this request.

User Voice allows vote(s) to be removed from other suggestion(s) so your votes reflect your suggestion priorities.

One option is commenting on suggestion(s) before removing vote(s) so can filter My Feedback to see interesting suggestions for future voting.

Noticed => Improce search (restrict search to parts of a resource, search for citations to resources, etc.) is now on page 4 of Top Ideas with 24 votes.

Keep Smiling Smile

Very true, but I do not want to remove any of my votes.  Therefore, I must wait until something gets accomplished so that my votes become free.

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Jacob Hantla | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, May 29 2012 9:19 PM

YES PLEASE!!!

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Robert I | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, May 30 2012 11:35 AM

I used my last vote for this.  Excellent recommendations.  Your 'unofficial' training videos are simply outstanding and are the one reason why I am keeping my Logos software even if I cannot afford the commentary set (or better yet, the few commentaries in the set) that I want to get.  Thank you for doing things so excellently unto the Lord.  Shine that light brightly on the hill.

Remaining in Him (1 John 2:28), Robert

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Mark Barnes | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jun 1 2012 5:54 AM

Robert Iversen:

I used my last vote for this.  Excellent recommendations.  Your 'unofficial' training videos are simply outstanding and are the one reason why I am keeping my Logos software even if I cannot afford the commentary set (or better yet, the few commentaries in the set) that I want to get.  Thank you for doing things so excellently unto the Lord.  Shine that light brightly on the hill.

Thanks, Robert Smile

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Scott S | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jun 4 2012 7:49 PM

Mark Barnes:

Twenty-two votes so far! Any other takers?

Mark,

Superb suggestions. I added 3 votes.

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Mark Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jun 4 2012 8:07 PM

Good suggestions. Sadly I am out of votes.

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Tim Bray | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Mar 31 2013 11:59 AM

All fantastic options - my vote is for them all Smile

 

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Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :) | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jun 22 2013 4:53 PM

Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :):

With 58 votes, this suggestion is near the top of page 3 of Top Ideas.

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Mitchell | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jun 22 2013 5:56 PM

Thank you Mark, I'm on board with all of this improvements! I shifted around some votes in order to give this one three.

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Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :) | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jun 22 2013 8:13 PM

User Voice => Improce search (restrict search to parts of a resource, search for citations to resources, etc.) now has 61 votes.

Noticed UserVoice page 3 of Top Ideas has several search suggestions:

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