Can you recommend a good treatment of Adam and Eve?

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Jim | Forum Activity | Posted: Sat, Jun 2 2012 10:15 AM

Could anyone suggest resources you've liked that delve into the account, the nature and the ramifications of the fall of Adam and Eve?

I would like resources that are primarily concerned with the nature of their temptation and fall including thoughtful insights about Adam and Eve's relationship, what the account contributes to understanding all human relationships, the nature of sin and the ramifications of their actions to the world and humanity.

For the purpose of my current concerns I'm uninterested in issues of mythology, whether Adam and Eve existed, or evolutionary concepts. Whether Christian or not, I only want to read authors that treat the text at face value and in its context of, and contribution to, the Torah as well as the entire Bible.

The resources can be in Logos or outside.  If they are good outside resources, perhaps we could recommend them to Logos.

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Mark Barnes | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jun 2 2012 10:37 AM

For theological reflections on the consequences of the fall, Henri Blocher's Original Sin is hard to beat. Although it's not about Adam and Even in particular, if you read it in conjunction with his In the Beginning (a theological commentary on Genesis 1-3) you might get what you want. Neither are available in Logos, though.

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Jack Hairston | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jun 2 2012 11:55 AM

Have you taken a look at 

The Beast That Crouches at the Door: Adam & Eve, Cain & Abel, and Beyond

by Rabbi David Fohrman

Take a look at the 21 reviews on Amazon for more details. Unfortunately, none of his resources are available on Logos yet. Hint. Hint.

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jun 2 2012 12:34 PM

Jacob Boehm comes to mind http://jacobboehmeonline.com/william_law  although it's probably not quite what you meant.

Eve and Adam: Jewish, Christian, and Muslim Readings on Genesis and Gender edited by Kristen E. Kvam, Linda S. Schearing, Valarie H. Ziegler  provides a nice selection of source material.

http://frted.wordpress.com/2011/05/03/using-the-patristic-authors-to-understand-adam/  is part of a series that has good information on resources

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jun 2 2012 12:47 PM

I've added the suggestions above to the topics database so they will appear in a search within Logos 4

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Jim | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jun 2 2012 1:07 PM

Jack Hairston:
The Beast That Crouches at the Door: Adam & Eve, Cain & Abel, and Beyond by Rabbi David Fohrman 

Jack, I got this for my Kindle and started reading. He is very engaging. Thanks.

M.J. Thanks for your suggestions, I'm looking them over too.

 

 

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jmac

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Jim | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jun 2 2012 1:09 PM

MJ. Smith:
I've added the suggestions above to the topics database so they will appear in a search within Logos 4

M.J. I've got a dumb question. How will that work?

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jun 2 2012 2:13 PM

If you do a search on "Fall" (without quotes), in the topic section the web resource links will show. If you open the Reading List tool and search on "Fall" the reading list with the suggested resources will appear.

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David Matthew | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Jun 3 2012 2:33 AM

I've found The Evolution Of Adam by Peter Enns very helpful indeed. Unfortunately it's not in Logos at the moment, but a Kindle edition is available.

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Mike Pettit | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Jun 3 2012 7:55 AM

I have always found Van Til's insight into the Fall especially enlightening, his works are peppered with such references but in particular this subject is well dealt with in Chapter 3 of his "A Christian Theory of Knowledge". The following extract gives you an insight into Van Til's view to see if you want to explore it further:

"The tree of the knowledge of good and evil was indicated to Adam as a test by which God would bring man to a fully self-conscious reaction to his will. Man was created good. He was not created with a will that could as well turn in the direction of evil as in the direction of the good; even so God would have man become fully and wholly spontaneous and self-conscious in every sense of the word in his attitude toward God. God wanted man to accept God’s judgment or criterion as that to which man would gladly and lovingly submit.

At the instigation of Satan man decided to set himself up as the ultimate standard of right and wrong, of the true and false. He made himself, instead of God, the final reference point in predication.

For the question of knowledge this implied the rejection of God as able to identify himself in terms of himself to man and with it the rejection of God as the source of truth for man. Instead of seeking an analogical system of knowledge, man after this sought an original system of knowledge. This means that God was reduced with him to the necessity of seeking truth in an ultimately mysterious environment. In other words, it implied that in setting up himself as independent; man was declaring that there was no one above him on whom he was dependent. But man even then knew that he was not ultimate. He knew that he had no control of reality and its possibilities. So what his declaration of independence amounted to was an attempt to bring God down with himself into an ocean of pure contingency or abstract possibility."

 

 

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