Attempting to do a Syntax search on John 3:5

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Orpheus Heyward | Forum Activity | Posted: Mon, Jun 4 2012 8:33 AM

I was wondering if some of you could help me accomplish a syntax search regarding John 3:5.  I am trying to find if there is a parallel greek construction of john 3:5 whereas there are two genitive nouns governed by one preposition.  Is this possible?  This will help me better understand the phrase "of water and Spirit".

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Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :) | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jun 4 2012 7:05 PM

Orpheus Heyward:
I am trying to find if there is a parallel greek construction of john 3:5 whereas there are two genitive nouns governed by one preposition.  Is this possible?

The case depends on the preposition so opened John 3:5 in OpenText, then mimicked structure for a Syntax Search, which has a similar structure of a preposition, noun, conjunction, and another noun (agrees in case, gender, and number with first noun):

Apologies: used Logos 4.5c Beta 3 on Windows since user interface for Logos 4.5c Beta 3 on Mac OS X cannot be used to create this search; looking forward to future 4.5c Beta release(s).

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Rick Brannan (Faithlife) | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Jun 5 2012 9:09 AM

Hi Orpheus.

Orpheus Heyward:

I was wondering if some of you could help me accomplish a syntax search regarding John 3:5.  I am trying to find if there is a parallel greek construction of john 3:5 whereas there are two genitive nouns governed by one preposition.  Is this possible?  This will help me better understand the phrase "of water and Spirit".

Since KS4J gave an answer with OpenText.org, I thought I'd give an answer using the Cascadia Syntax Graphs. This same exact question happened awhile back, so there is a thread somewhere. Perhaps someone will locate it and post a link to that discussion.

Here's the Cascadia query (I'm using the SBLGNT form of Cascadia).

And here is the graph (so you can see the structure in Cascadia) and some of the results. Note that I'm searching for both adjective phrases and noun phrases in the genitive case.

Hope it helps.

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