I thought some here might be interested--if not please move on and forgive me for the off topic post. (Maybe this illustrates the need for an off topic place in the forums?)
Yesterday I spent 12 hours of my life to get Sarah Palin to sign her book for me in the first stop of her book tour in Grand Rapids Michigan. It was lots of fun. What a great person. My wife and I were on Good Morning America, she also had her picture in the Detroit Free Press, and I am quoted and pictured on Inside Edition. Here's a link if anyone is interested:
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It was so exciting that I wanted to share with my friends here at Logos. This is not any desire or attempt to start a political discussion!!
Randy Hartman:It was so exciting that I wanted to share with my friends here at Logos
That's cool. The last time I got within a hundred feet of a national figure, the Secret Service took surveillance photos of me.
Whether you like her or not (I do) it's cool!
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Randy Hartman: I thought some here might be interested--if not please move on and forgive me for the off topic post. (Maybe this illustrates the need for an off topic place in the forums?) Yesterday I spent 12 hours of my life to get Sarah Palin to sign her book for me in the first stop of her book tour in Grand Rapids Michigan. It was lots of fun. What a great person. My wife and I were on Good Morning America, she also had her picture in the Detroit Free Press, and I am quoted and pictured on Inside Edition. Here's a link if anyone is interested: htttp://www.insideedition.com/news.aspx?storyId=3659 It was so exciting that I wanted to share with my friends here at Logos. This is not any desire or attempt to start a political discussion!!
That's great, Randy. I would have loved to have been there. The real question is, how long did your laptop battery last while you were in line and working on L4? (My attempt to steer the thread toward the not-so-off-topic route.
Bill
Sadly I did not have my laptop with me. BUT I had my new Itouch. It did not do much good, however, since I could not connect to any network.
Randy Hartman: Sadly I did not have my laptop with me. BUT I had my new Itouch. It did not do much good, however, since I could not connect to any network.
What???? No WiFi at the Mall? What are we coming to when a trip to stand in line at a bookstore leaves us bereft of some kind of connection to the rest of the world??
She didn't make it this "far" south - hour or so SE of Cleveland - or we might have turned out, too. Either she's an incredible actress, which I don't believe, or she is who she appears to be. Refreshing.
Nice respite from the intensity inherent in shifting from Logos 3 to 4, thanks.
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I don't think she has any business even sniffing the White House. She does not have the intelligence necessary to run the most powerful nation in the world. When asked about her policies, she gives simplistic answers that pretty much any person on the street could give. A presidential hopeful must bring more to the table than that. She didn't even know the responsibilities of the Vice President when asked last year.
And I am a moderate conservative.
Sorry, just my 2 cents.
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Sure don't want this thread to get out of hand, but I couldn't disagree more, Jeremy. I'll leave it at that.
JeremyEllis:just my 2 cents.
She claims Jesus as Saviour and talks to God regularly.
I'd much rather have a dog catcher who talks to God living in the White House than the smartest self-reliant unbeliever
-- that's my 1.5 cents (adjusted for the currennt inflation rate)
[disclaimer: I only use "dog catcher" colloquially. It takes a pretty smart person to wrangle up a rabid Pit Bull!)
JeremyEllis: I don't think she has any business even sniffing the White House. She does not have the intelligence necessary to run the most powerful nation in the world. When asked about her policies, she gives simplistic answers that pretty much any person on the street could give. A presidential hopeful must bring more to the table than that. She didn't even know the responsibilities of the Vice President when asked last year. And I am a moderate conservative. Sorry, just my 2 cents.
She seems to be an interesting figure who really polarises people in the US.
From my vantage in Australia, that was quite interesting to see. Now, obviously our democracies work in different ways. We don't directly elect our leaders - our prime minister is the leader of the party which has the majority in the House of Representatives - so his (or her) electorate elects him (or her) and if that party secures a majority in the House of Representatives he (or she) is invited by the Governor General to form a government (all of our states have the same system, but you substitute premier for prime minister and governor for governor general).
What was notable in Australian commentary was how poorly Palin performed - there is no way a candidate for any sort of office in Australia would be treated seriously if they discharged themselves in that way (though we once had a woman named Pauline Hanson who seemed to be similar in many ways to Palin's style). Many of us couldn't believe that she was even considered! Not because of her views (though in Australia to be the sort of conservative Palin seems to be puts you way over to the right of the political spectrum), but because she seemingly mismanaged her job as governor, and didn't present as a credible vice presidential candidate. I suspect there was an element of sexism in the commentary about her, just as there was in the commentary about Hillary Clinton. Women in politics have to work much harder than men.
I have no idea if she is intelligent or not, whether she was well prepared or not, or whatever. All I know is that if you'd ended up with her as your vice president we'd have laughed ourselves silly - not that you need worry about that, or need to care if we did! Your choice, and you're welcome to choose whomever you want.
Another observation, for what it is worth... in Australia there is no automatic presumption that to be an Evangelical Christian means you're going to vote conservative. You'd find, I think, that some of the sort of conservative positions Sarah Palin espouses would be absolutely anathema to some Evangelical Christians here. But we're different nations, with different heritages. All I can say is that I'm glad I live here in Australia - not the most powerful nation in the world, for sure, but certainly much fairer and kinder to the marginalised and disadvantaged than most.
I'd rather have a person who had intelligent public policies and did not talk to God than a person who prayed 5 times a day and had no business being in politics at the national level.The Republican party HAS to be able to find a better candidate than her. Jindal is better and I am not that impressed with him either after seeing his response to Obama's State of the Union address.
Colin Thornby: Another observation, for what it is worth... in Australia there is no automatic presumption that to be an Evangelical Christian means you're going to vote conservative. You'd find, I think, that some of the sort of conservative positions Sarah Palin espouses would be absolutely anathema to some Evangelical Christians here. But we're different nations, with different heritages. All I can say is that I'm glad I live here in Australia - not the most powerful nation in the world, for sure, but certainly much fairer and kinder to the marginalised and disadvantaged than most.
Colin, are you sure you do not live in the UK(Britain)? You have caught the British outlook on this. I could not help but think that if one dropped the word Australia from your post & inserted Britain that would be, broadly speaking a fair representation of our views here.
Ted
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I don't put much stock in any of them. I rest peacefully at night knowing God sets up kings and takes them down. God moves the boundaries of nations.
Better an uneducated person with character than an educated evil person.
If only Hitler had dropped out of school........ My Jewish ancestors would not have to have fled,
JeremyEllis: I don't think she has any business even sniffing the White House. She does not have the intelligence necessary to run the most powerful nation in the world. When asked about her policies, she gives simplistic answers that pretty much any person on the street could give. A presidential hopeful must bring more to the table than that. She didn't even know the responsibilities of the Vice President when asked last year. And I am a moderate conservative.
ditto
Ted Hans: Colin, are you sure you do not live in the UK(Britain). You have caught the British outlook on this. I could help but think that if one dropped the word Australia from your post & inserted Britain that would be, broadly speaking a fair representation of our views here. Ted
Colin, are you sure you do not live in the UK(Britain). You have caught the British outlook on this. I could help but think that if one dropped the word Australia from your post & inserted Britain that would be, broadly speaking a fair representation of our views here.
G'day Ted.
No, not from Old Blighty. But I think your comment actually underlines some useful points which, at the risk of being didactic and shouted at, I'll outline:
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Colin Thornby:All I can say is that I'm glad I live here in Australia - not the most powerful nation in the world, for sure, but certainly much fairer and kinder to the marginalised and disadvantaged than most.
Your country seems nice by all accounts I've heard. I even enjoy watching some of your politicians (Peter Garrett.)
I'd just like to mention the United States is the largest donor by far in fighting AIDS in Africa. I think there are lots of good people to be found just about everywhere we look. (There are the bad blokes, too.)
Colin, I think she actually did a decent job as governor. There was the scandal involving the State Trooper being fired, but that really was not a big deal. Alaska is one of the easier states to govern though because there is plenty of oil money coming in which means she did not have to make tough budget decisions that many governors are having to make. Palin was not attacked in the media because she was a woman or because of her work as governor so much, but because she had no business running as a VP and she embarrassed herself time and time again when she got into the spotlight. Her interviews and public policies (or lack of) spoke to this in my opinion. She is not smarter than any conservative person walking down the street. Your President must certainly be.
Look at her most recent interview with Barbara Walters. "Sarah, what do you think about Israel expanding their settlements in Jerusalem." "Well Barbara, I think they should be allowed to." "Can you expound on that Sarah?" "Barbara, I think Israel should be able to expand their settlements." All she did was repeat that one line over and over. She had no historical consciousness. Maybe if she could have seen Jerusalem from her house, she would have had a better answer. Every interview is like this. She just doesn't know foreign affairs. She didn't know the responsibilities of the VP when she was McCain's running mate. And the thing I dislike about her the most is that she continues to encourage the stereotype that Evangelicals are as sharp as a box of Puffs Plus.
Matthew C Jones:Better an uneducated person with character than an educated evil person.
But best an educated person with character. That is what a President should be. Sarah Palin is not that person. You need more than a personality to run the United States of America.
Matthew C Jones: Colin Thornby:All I can say is that I'm glad I live here in Australia - not the most powerful nation in the world, for sure, but certainly much fairer and kinder to the marginalised and disadvantaged than most. Your country seems nice by all accounts I've heard. I even enjoy watching some of your politicians (Peter Garrett.) I'd just like to mention the United States is the largest donor by far in fighting AIDS in Africa. I think there are lots of good people to be found just about everywhere we look. (There are the bad blokes, too.)
Yep, I absolutely agree with you (though not about Peter Garrett - he was a better musician!). There are good people to be found everywhere. I think what some of us in Australia find hard is that, in a nation as wealthy and privileged as the US, there seem to be so many who do so poorly.
Thanks Colin, very insightful. You brought a smile to my face