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Andrew Baguley | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jan 8 2014 10:56 AM

I read this as "Despite being raised in a Pietist household and still maintaining a belief in God, he was skeptical of religion in later life and was an agnostic."  I'm no expert, but I think his writings reflect agnosticism and skepticism, more than pietism.  I accept MJ's suggestion that Logos tags should reflect the author's main writing period, so I've left Kant uncategorised in the spreadsheet, and therefore in none of the collections.  I'm open to suggestions though.

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NB.Mick | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jan 8 2014 11:29 AM

Andrew Baguley:

I read this as "Despite being raised in a Pietist household and still maintaining a belief in God, he was skeptical of religion in later life and was an agnostic."  I'm no expert, but I think his writings reflect agnosticism and skepticism, more than pietism.  

Same here. 

I'm currently reading "The Journey of Modern Theology" (hope this would be made into a Logos book soon!) and here's all it says about Kant and Pietism: "He was raised in a pietist home and church, but as an adult he rarely attended church".

Some more citations: "According to Kant, religion arises from ethics, from humanity's experience of the 'moral law within' (...) Kant believed there is a moral law within everyone and it is perfectly rational. It does not depend on revelation. He called it the "categorical imperative" (...) every rational person intuitively realizes it is correct." and "Christianity is limited to its ethical function, according to Kant; it is not at all about mysterious doctrines about God-in-himself such as Trinity or incarnation". Thus: "Jesus' importance lies in his example and teachings. not in his incarnation or atoning death as in traditional, orthodox theology. Kant's Christology did not go much beyond that of the deists." Hardly a Pietist position.

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abondservant | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jan 8 2014 6:35 PM

Makes sense... Maybe a philosophy tag?

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Mitchell | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jan 10 2014 9:37 AM

abondservant:

Makes sense... Maybe a philosophy tag?

I second this, especially since Noet is introducing more philosophical works into Logos. Probably a single tag would work for now, but at some point it might worth splitting philosophers into eras or schools.

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Randy W. Sims | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jan 10 2014 11:56 AM

Since this set of collections primarily focuses on Theology, is Philosophy a valid category? Perhaps Atheist and Agnostic, but I'm not sure about Philosophy. Note that I'm certainly not arguing against a Philosophy collection. Just wondering if it, in itself, is a proper category of theologies/denominations?

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Roger G Black | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jan 10 2014 1:20 PM

I will add my short part, yes, philosophy has a root/tie into the theology/denomination tags.  Or, as also suggested, having it listed as a sub-part.

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Mitchell | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jan 13 2014 5:05 PM

Randy W. Sims:

Since this set of collections primarily focuses on Theology, is Philosophy a valid category? Perhaps Atheist and Agnostic, but I'm not sure about Philosophy. Note that I'm certainly not arguing against a Philosophy collection. Just wondering if it, in itself, is a proper category of theologies/denominations?

I don't think we need to get too heavily into the taxonomy of disciplines and movements here. IMO, it's enough to say that having a collection of authors known primarily as philosophers would be useful for filtering and searching in Logos. Atheist and agnostic less so, because so many philosophers over the years are ambiguous on those points, or they are Christians but don't write about Christianity (e.g. Kant).

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abondservant | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jan 18 2014 5:22 PM

A.W. Pink is calvinist/reformed.

https://www.logos.com/products/search?Author=Pink%2c+Arthur+Walkington

Surprised he isn't already in there, I figured more people would have him in their libraries.


Never mind - Just realized it was my miss-spelling of his name on the PB in question that caused him not to be picked up by the rules.

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Edil | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Jan 19 2014 2:42 PM

I was looking for suggestions on how to organize my library and found this thread. Thanks for the excellent work.

Now please excuse my ignorance, I downloaded the excel file how is that I parse the data from excel to Logos so the collections get created?

Also, What about Reformed Baptist, 1689 Baptist Confession of Faith (that's me Smile). I saw that logos have at least one author, Albert N. Martin (very good preacher imo), with two resources (one in pre-pub):

https://www.logos.com/product/25217/how-not-to-foul-up-the-training-of-your-children

https://www.logos.com/product/3588/distinguishing-traits-of-christian-character

And from Wikipedia more information about Reformed Baptist groups or variants:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reformed_Baptists

With names or organizations such as:

John Bunyan; John Gill; William Carey; Charles Spurgeon; London Reformed Baptist Seminary;  Association of Reformed Baptist Churches of America; Continental Baptist Churches; Sovereign Grace Baptist Association of Churches; Sovereign Grace Baptists.

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Andrew Baguley | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Mar 16 2014 3:10 PM

Edil Cajigas:

I was looking for suggestions on how to organize my library and found this thread. Thanks for the excellent work.

Now please excuse my ignorance, I downloaded the excel file how is that I parse the data from excel to Logos so the collections get created?

Also, What about Reformed Baptist, 1689 Baptist Confession of Faith (that's me Smile).

Really sorry for the late reply, Edil.  I had hoped others might post answers here.

I think I answered your question about parsing data on the Faithlife page (https://faithlife.com/messages/5180).  Let me know if you're still struggling.

There used to be a Theology/Denomination Reformed Baptist on the spreadsheet.  I soon realised that it was complicated, and that the category was really just two different types of theology combined.  It's not really a denomination, but many baptists are reformed, so relevant people are in the category Denomination Stream: Baptist AND Theology: Reformed.  However, the way the spreadsheet is set up, it does not allow categories to be combined in this way very easily.  If anyone has any bright ideas on this, feel free to post them.  I guess we could add a computed field, based on Baptist AND Reformed.  In the meantime, there is an alternative solution.  It's not pretty, but it should work, and it only needs to be created once.  After that, all of the data should change automatically.  This is the solution:

Create a new collection called 'Full Library', using the rule Rating:>=0

Create a collection called Theology: Not Baptist

Drag Full Library to the 'plus these resources' section of Theology: Not Baptist

Drag Denom. Stream: Baptist to the 'minus these resources' section of Theology: Not Baptist

Create a collection called Theology: Not Reformed

Drag Full Library to the 'plus these resources' section of Theology: Not Reformed

Drag Theology: Reformed (Calvinist) to the 'minus these resources' section of Theology: Not Reformed

Create a collection called Theology: Reformed Baptist

Drag Full Library to the 'plus these resources' section of Theology: Reformed Baptist

Drag Theology: Not Reformed and Theology: Not Baptist to the 'minus these resources' section of Theology: Reformed Baptist

This should give all the resources currently marked as Baptist and Reformed.

Hope that's clear.  It's quicker to do than to explain.

[Edit: I've just shared copies of the collections Full Library, Theology: Not Reformed, Theology: Not Baptist and Theology: Reformed Baptist.  This should be easier and quicker than creating them from scratch.  Feel free to let me know whether they work.  I've only shared rule based collections up to now, but I can't see why these shouldn't work.  You may need to get copies in the order listed here, as Logos may get confused if it does not see the collections it needs to build the dependent collections.]

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Andrew Baguley | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Mar 16 2014 3:22 PM

Please find the latest copy of the spreadsheet below.  I think I've included all the suggestions so far, including a category Philosopher, for philosophers who do not naturally fit another category.  Feel free to keep suggestions coming, and let me know if I've missed any, or if you notice any mistakes.

The data is still far from complete, but it is getting better.  I just don't have the time to spend on this at the moment, so apologies the updating is so slow.

As before, I've updated the collections available through the Faithlife post at https://faithlife.com/logos-library-theology-denomination-tags/documents, and I've added a new denomination or two.  This is the easiest way to get the updates.  It should be automatic for those who have already accessed the collections this way.

Here's a zipped copy of the spreadsheet:

8255.Denominations and Theology 16 March 2014.zip

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Bruce Dunning | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Mar 16 2014 3:42 PM

Andrew Baguley:
 It should be automatic for those who have already accessed the collections this way.

This is a great feature of doing it this way.

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Milford Charles Murray | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Mar 16 2014 4:13 PM

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                          How often does one get to use the subjective in the English Language, eh?     *smile*

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Rosie Perera | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Mar 16 2014 4:30 PM

Milford Charles Murray:
How often does one get to use the subjective in the English Language, eh?

Kudos to you for even knowing what the subjunctive is. It's a dying piece of knowledge. And many who try to use it (without knowing what it's called) do it wrong: "I would of..." or "If only I would have known..."

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David A. Peterson | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Mar 16 2014 10:14 PM

MJ. Smith:

I'd add Restoration Movement:

Author:("Lucado, Max") OR Publisher:("Standard")

Author:("Lucado, Max","Cottrell, Jack") OR Publisher:("Standard","College Press")

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Andrew Baguley | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Mar 17 2014 3:06 AM

David A. Peterson:

MJ. Smith:

I'd add Restoration Movement:

Author:("Lucado, Max") OR Publisher:("Standard")

Author:("Lucado, Max","Cottrell, Jack") OR Publisher:("Standard","College Press")

Thanks, David.  The latest list includes these.  Please let me know if the collection on the Faithlife group or the spreadsheet does not match:

Author:("Baker, William R", "Bland, Dave L.", "Boring, M. Eugene", "Briley, Terry", "Cottrell, Jack", "Fredenburg, Brandon L.", "Gorman, Frank H.", "Hahlen, Mark A.", "Ham, Clay Alan", "Janzen, J. Gerald", "Kissling, Paul J.", "Lucado, Max", "McGarvey, John William", "Osiek, Carolyn", "Perdue, Leo G.", "Shank, Harold", "Willis, Timothy M.") OR Publisher:("College Press", "Standard")

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Everett Headley | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Mar 17 2014 2:08 PM

I've been wanting to do this to my library for awhile now. Is there a step by step or some help listed somewhere already about how to put these into my library?

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abondservant | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Mar 17 2014 2:39 PM

Indeed, earlier in the thread is linked a faithlife group, click to the group, and join... Then click over to the documents section and click the ones you like, this will import them into Logos collections automatically.

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Ray from Faithlife | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Mar 17 2014 5:14 PM

abondservant:
Indeed, earlier in the thread is linked a faithlife group, click to the group, and join... Then click over to the documents section and click the ones you like, this will import them into Logos collections automatically.

Yes 

I'm working on a post for Logos Talk about this thread. It will give me a chance to talk about that very process.

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abondservant | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Mar 17 2014 9:38 PM

By the way, I noticed that Doddridge was added to the list of congregationalists, but his name in the rule brings up nothing in my library. I think I have his commentary set... (double checking that now).


Ahh its still in pre-pub. Makes sense now. Should check these things before reporting to the thread haha.

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