Possible Mac Bug and certainly annoyance: Saving Collections on Favorites or Toolbar

ML 10.8.1 and 4.6 SR-2

When I try to save a collection in my favourites, no matter which collection I am trying to save, I get my collection 'Encyclopedias and Dictionaries'. Ideally I would love to be able to save collections to the toolbar, but even with this I get the same result. See the screenshot below. I have clicked on the collection 'Author Series: Lightfoot, John', but what I got was my 'Encyclopedias and Dictionaries' collection.

Is this a bug or a limitation of the program? If it is a limitation, I think collections would be a lot more useful if you could call one up with only one mouse click either on the toolbar, in the favorites folder or even in the library window. It takes too many clicks to get at a given collection. Collections in my view are the only way to manage large libraries efficiently.

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fgh

This bug is supposed to be fixed internally. Should be OK in 4.6a.

(Though they've only really said that it's fixed for Favorites. When the beta ships, can someone please confirm that it's now possible to save a chosen collection both in Favorites, in a Layout, and on the Shortcut bar. Or if someone from Logos reads this, can you please confirm it now.)

Donovan R. Palmer

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/397927#Comment_397927

(sigh) I would love to hear about this as well. To get at a resource in a desired collection is four steps. Open collections, open the correct collection, scroll to the resource that you want and then click on it. It would be easier to have your collections saved in favorites and in the tool bar. Is this too much to ask?

Also, the lack of integration into the Library window is in the same realm of frustration and I have mentioned that on here before. It seems that the main purpose seen by programmers for the collections is to manage lists of resources so that you can search them. Without a doubt this is true. The other purpose of your collection is to help you manage a large library so to in effect filter out a lot of stuff when you are narrowing down what you are looking for.

The current model was fine when we had resource libraries under 1,000 or so. Now that we have gone much further beyond this, collections if well integrated into the UI are a possible answer to assist with filtering through tons of stuff you need to cut away to focus.

My two pence worth!

fgh

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/397957#Comment_397957

To get at a resource in a desired collection is four steps. Open collections, open the correct collection, scroll to the resource that you want and then click on it.

Why do you use Collections to open books? The Command bar or the Library find box would normally be much faster.

It would be easier to have your collections saved in favorites and in the tool bar.

If you intend to do this with all of your collections you must have very few, or it will be even slower than what you do today.

Donovan R. Palmer

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/397976#Comment_397976

I do have lots of collections, but at any point I am studying on a subject which I am commonly going primarily to four to six collections on a frequent basis. Of course this is dynamic, just as you shift from library shelf to the other and varies from month to month.

Especially in a large library, it is easy to forget what you have on a large subject, so the collection tends to serve like a library shelf for me to go browse. I am a visual processor, so even seeing the book cover can remind me of something that I read in that particular book. Again, collections act like a filter at least in my usage.

I do use the command bar and library find box when I know what I am looking for, want to look for books collected on a tag, etc. Some of my collections are based heavily on tags, so yes this could be done in the library find box. But that involves opening the library box and a series of keystrokes. If you are frequently doing this, then why not have it in a collection and put it in favorites or if it really is frequent, in the shortcut bar? It's all about time and ease of workflow particularly for repetitive tasks.

At least for now I will concede that anything will ever be done with the library window as this has been talked about for two years now (at least). I'd be happy just to see the favourites work and bonus would be to be able to have come collections in the short cut menu bar.

Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/397927#Comment_397927

This bug is supposed to be fixed internally. Should be OK in 4.6a.

Confirmed fix in Logos 4.6a Beta 2 on Mac OS X 10.6.8

Keep Smiling [:)]

fgh

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/398885#Comment_398885

Confirmed fix in Logos 4.6a Beta 2 on Mac OS X 10.6.8

Just making sure: did you confirm all three versions:

When the beta ships, can someone please confirm that it's now possible to save a chosen collection both in Favorites, in a Layout, and on the Shortcut bar.

Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/398913#Comment_398913

Confirmed fix in Logos 4.6a Beta 2 on Mac OS X 10.6.8

Just making sure: did you confirm all three versions:

When the beta ships, can someone please confirm that it's now possible to save a chosen collection both in Favorites, in a Layout, and on the Shortcut bar.

Yes, dragged a collection tab to create a new Favorite. Dragged new Favorite to create a shortcut. Opened an old layout with collection and library tabs, then created a new layout after changing collection and window size. Able to use any of them to open collections.

Keep Smiling [:)]

fgh

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/398945#Comment_398945

Thanks!

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fgh

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/398945#Comment_398945

When the beta ships, can someone please confirm that it's now possible to save a chosen collection both in Favorites, in a Layout, and on the Shortcut bar.

Yes, dragged a collection tab to create a new Favorite. Dragged new Favorite to create a shortcut. Opened an old layout with collection and library tabs, then created a new layout after changing collection and window size. Able to use any of them to open collections.

Can confirm that Layouts and Favorites work in 4.6a. The shortcut I tried didn't work, but I forgot to try via Favorites. I don't quite remember, there's some kind of bug forcing some kind of shortcuts to be made via Favorites, right? What's the details?

Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/410656#Comment_410656

When the beta ships, can someone please confirm that it's now possible to save a chosen collection both in Favorites, in a Layout, and on the Shortcut bar.

Yes, dragged a collection tab to create a new Favorite. Dragged new Favorite to create a shortcut. Opened an old layout with collection and library tabs, then created a new layout after changing collection and window size. Able to use any of them to open collections.

Can confirm that Layouts and Favorites work in 4.6a. The shortcut I tried didn't work, but I forgot to try via Favorites. I don't quite remember, there's some kind of bug forcing some kind of shortcuts to be made via Favorites, right? What's the details?

Using Logos 4.6a SR-1 on OS X 10.8.2, dragging Collection Tab to create a shortcut, causes shortcut to open Collections Tool and create an "Unnamed Collection". In contrast, dragging Collection Tab to Favorites creates a link, which opens a specific Collection. The Favorites link can be dragged to shortcut bar, which opens to specific collection.

Keep Smiling [:)]

Donovan R. Palmer

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/410685#Comment_410685

Using Logos 4.6a SR-1 on OS X 10.8.2, dragging Collection Tab to create a shortcut, causes shortcut to open Collections Tool and create an "Unnamed Collection". In contrast, dragging Collection Tab to Favorites creates a link, which opens a specific Collection. The Favorites link can be dragged to shortcut bar, which opens to specific collection.

Confirmed it is working and this is a very nice feature to have on Mac! [:)]