Faithlife Study Bible Infographics problem

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Justin David Strong | Forum Activity | Posted: Thu, Jan 3 2013 5:30 PM

I am teaching a couple college classes this semester, and some of the timelines would be very handy if they were usable. But they aren't. I can choose "fit," which makes all the text illegible, or "actual size" which makes the timeline too gargantuan to be practical. When I attempt to print them, copy them to word, or to powerpoint, they are always thumbnail size.

How can I use these resources at a reasonable scale? How can I export them to other software or print them at a legible scale?

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Rich DeRuiter | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jan 3 2013 5:40 PM

Justin David Strong:

I am teaching a couple college classes this semester, and some of the timelines would be very handy if they were usable. But they aren't. I can choose "fit," which makes all the text illegible, or "actual size" which makes the timeline too gargantuan to be practical. When I attempt to print them, copy them to word, or to powerpoint, they are always thumbnail size.

How can I use these resources at a reasonable scale? How can I export them to other software or print them at a legible scale?

Welcome to the forums!

Not sure exactly what it is you want to do, but I wonder if using a screen capture program might serve your purposes. See the wiki for several options: http://wiki.logos.com/Screenshot

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Beloved Amodeo | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jan 3 2013 6:28 PM

Justin David Strong:
I am teaching a couple college classes this semester

I take it from your statement here you may be interested in exporting the image from the timeline event of interest into a program like Power Point or preparing a handout. If this be the case. Choose your event, you can change the display style by selecting  (1) Graffiti once you have found an acceptable style select the small triangle (2). Choose Print. You will now be presented with another pop-up screen. Choose Landscape (1). Now you can either simply print from here to produce what I think will be an acceptable copy or you can Export to Power Point or Word, etc.

 

 

 

Me thinks in my haste to be helpful I misread your post. Your question regards the FSB timelines that's a whole nother matter. I here defer to the advice of Richard. Sorry for the confusion on my part. Some may still find my info useful, so I will allow it to remain posted.

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Justin David Strong | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jan 3 2013 6:54 PM

Thanks for the detailed reply, but the timeline I'm looking at is different. I have the Original Languages Package, which I believe doesn't have the timeline you used.

The timelines I have are found under Faithlife Study Bible Infographics > Timelines

I also have no button marked "Graffiti" that I can see.

 

Also to the first reply, I would use "print screen" but as I mentioned, my options are either displaying the timeline way too small, or way too big. 

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Beloved Amodeo | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jan 3 2013 7:09 PM

Justin David Strong:
I have the Original Languages Package, which I believe doesn't have the timeline you used.

Yeah, as I address in my edit, I misread your post. I do now understand your issue. Please follow Richards instructions and look into screen capture as a work around. I use the free program Jing.

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Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :) | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jan 5 2013 9:23 AM

Justin David Strong:
How can I use these resources at a reasonable scale?

Welcome Big Smile

On Windows, can use open Timeline in a floating panel, maximize, then use wheel scrolling to adjust image size for a screen shot.

On OS X, can use wheel scrolling OR use trackpad with two fingers up/down to adjust image size for a screen shot.

Infographic images can me much wider than a Powerpoint slide, so may need several slides.

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Milford Charles Murray | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jan 10 2013 6:59 PM

Beloved:
I take it from your statement here you may be interested in exporting the image from the timeline event of interest into a program like Power Point or preparing a handout. If this be the case. Choose your event, you can change the display style by selecting  (1) Graffiti once you have found an acceptable style select the small triangle (2). Choose Print. You will now be presented with another pop-up screen. Choose Landscape (1). Now you can either simply print from here to produce what I think will be an acceptable copy or you can Export to Power Point or Word, etc.

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       Just came across this older post about "printing timelines" ...........              I realise that you made a slight error in reading the original post (like I do all the time!) -- However, just for fun I thought I'd print Timelines according to your instructions in this post  .....

              And!             It turned out so very well that I'm posting it because it will be of great interest to those who wish to use Timelines -- and to share them -- Thank you for your original sharing.

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Tom Reynolds | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jan 10 2013 7:47 PM

Beloved:

Yeah, as I address in my edit, I misread your post. I do now understand your issue. Please follow Richards instructions and look into screen capture as a work around. I use the free program Jing.

Or just Fn+PrtSc and paste it into your document and crop it to remove what you don't want like your mouse cursor :)

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Mike | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jan 11 2013 9:40 AM

Hello Justin,

 

I apologize for the trouble you're experiencing. The Faithlife Infographics are super-high-resolution images, and some of those timelines are literally enormous (example: Egypt). The best way to pull them out of the software is to right-click on the image. You can save it as an image file, or drop it directly into PowerPoint for presenting.

If you're putting this on a low-resolution monitor or projector, you may need to split it into sections. To do that, save as image, then open that image in an image editor, like Photoshop and you can crop it down as necessary.

Mike

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Scott Sanjay Hayes | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Jan 27 2013 9:55 AM

Mike,  

 

When I right-click and save the image, the resulting file is pixelated and looks terrible when I enlarge it.  I've tried going to "Actual Size" in Logos 4 first, and then saving, but that does work either.  The same thing happens when I export to PowerPoint.  The resulting image is pixelated when I try to see the text in the image.  The result is unusable.

Sample screen shot from Logos 4.

Here's a screen shot from the resulting exported file.

How do I fix this?

Thanks!

Scott

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Mike | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jan 28 2013 8:49 AM

Hey Scott,

I've done a little more testing and I see the issue. It looks like we are stretching the image when we use the right-click > Save as... function. The rasterized image seems to be around 1950x1080, or designed to fit within that size (standard 16:9 "HD" screen).

The trick is, the original (what you see inside Logos) is a vector graphic (unlimited size) at a much larger view-size (about 4x) and it looks like this function (above) is stretching the raster version to try to match. I'm discussing this with Development to see what is causing this, but I suspect we're not actually rendering the vector, but instead exporting a pre-rendered, fixed size version.

For the purpose of projecting, the original 1080p image is probably sufficient and you can access it by using the Print/Export menu (CTRL/CMD+P) and selecting "Image" as the output format. Hopefully this is helpful for now. I imagine we'll be able to update the software to save the standard size from right-click in the future.

Mike

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Jeff Scarborough | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Mar 22 2013 8:55 AM

Mike,

Have you found a better solution for this issue?  Or maybe a work around?  I would like to show these when I teach my Sunday School class and have seen the same results as Scott.  I am using a Windows machine and would like to export the Event Lines to PowerPoint.  Thanks.  --Jeff in Texas

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Mike | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Mar 26 2013 8:20 AM

Sorry Jeff,

I reported the issue and it is being looked into. It's technically working by design right now; it's just not designed to export at the size you're wanting. I'm not sure if the solution will be to somehow distribute the vector source files, or rewrite the exporter to custom-rasterize the vector to a desired size (very complicated and less likely to happen).

I'll let you know what comes of it.

Mike

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Denise | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Mar 26 2013 8:58 AM

Huh? No one teaches in church at Logos using Faithlife (I'm sure someone might.)  Amateur-lady's Bible software resizes to the desired size on the export (and import but Logos doesn't do imports).

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Jeff Scarborough | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Mar 26 2013 1:07 PM

Mike,  Why do the other pictures, charts, etc. (everything except for eventlines) transfer over to PowerPoint with no trouble?  This makes this feature pretty much worthless in my opinion.  I think those eventlines are really helpful for teaching the Bible and I just hate to see someone's work of putting those together go unused.  Help!!

Jeff in Texas

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Room4more | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Mar 26 2013 5:04 PM

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You can use this one for the up and coming sunday

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Martin Grainger Dean | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Mar 27 2013 2:13 AM
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Graham Criddle | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Mar 27 2013 2:32 AM

Hi Mike

Mike (Tech Support):
For the purpose of projecting, the original 1080p image is probably sufficient and you can access it by using the Print/Export menu (CTRL/CMD+P) and selecting "Image" as the output format

I've just tried to do this on an event line (I tried to access the Print menu from the event line shown below)

and Logos crashed.

(This was in 5.1 B2 so I'll post this in the Beta forum but just wanted to flag it here)

Graham

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Brisa Davis | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Apr 9 2013 11:39 AM

Graham Criddle:

Hi Mike

Mike (Tech Support):
For the purpose of projecting, the original 1080p image is probably sufficient and you can access it by using the Print/Export menu (CTRL/CMD+P) and selecting "Image" as the output format

I've just tried to do this on an event line (I tried to access the Print menu from the event line shown below) ...

and Logos crashed.

(This was in 5.1 B2 so I'll post this in the Beta forum but just wanted to flag it here)

Graham

I have responded in the beta forum: http://community.logos.com/forums/t/68309.aspx

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GaoLu | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Dec 1 2013 6:45 PM

Has this ever been resolved?  Not the crashing, but that ability to export graphics at legible resolution?

I would love to have this graphic for teaching...logosres:fsbinfographics;art=thelifeofpaul

 

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