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Gerrit Hofius | Forum Activity | Posted: Tue, Jan 22 2013 12:17 AM

What are the differences between the different apps? And is there one app with the whole functionality? Or do I need to install more than one app?

I know that I can use all of my books in all of the apps. But then why are there so many apps?

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tom | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Jan 22 2013 3:55 AM

Gerrit Hofius:

What are the differences between the different apps? And is there one app with the whole functionality? Or do I need to install more than one app?

I know that I can use all of my books in all of the apps. But then why are there so many apps?

IMHO, Logos is becoming the GM (General Motors) of biblical software.  GM would slap a different sticker on one one of their vehicle and call it a new model.  Logos is doing the same thing.  If you ask me, the only app you need is Logos.

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Graham Criddle | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Jan 22 2013 5:21 AM

Gerrit Hofius:
What are the differences between the different apps? And is there one app with the whole functionality? Or do I need to install more than one app?

I see this as a recognition that different groups of people may want to access different sets of resources in different ways - or the same people may want to access resources differently at different times.

At a high level, the Bible app (the original release) is a general purpose Bible study tool, the Vyrso app is for simple reading, FSB is for those who may not want to invest in a Logos library but want access to basic study tools and the Verbum app would align with those who opt for the Verbum packages in Logos.

They all do different things:

The Bible app allows you to perform Passage and Bible Word Study guides, carry out Text Comparisons, look at notes files and manage some reading plans.

The Vyrso app doesn't have the guides, nor text comparison tool, doesn't support reading plans and is really intended as a basic reader

The FSB app is the only one of the apps which requires you to have a split screen in reading mode - this is to provide any easy mechanism for people to read a Bible in one pane and follow along in the Study Bible (or other resource) in another pane. It packages with it a lot of extra information including photos and videos and other infographics. It does support reading plans but not the guides nor comparison tool. It does provide integrated access to the Faithlife community groups.

Verbum bundles some additional resources - Douay-Rheims Bible and the Catholic Lectionary and allows for online access to several additional resources. It does support reading plans, the guides and text comparison tool as well as providing access to Faithlife. 

So I can easily see that different people may find using one or several of these easier depending on what they are trying to do.

The Verbum app is the most complete (it will be interesting to see if Logos add Faithlife access to the Bible app in the future) as Philana noted in a recent post - http://community.logos.com/forums/p/64505/452111.aspx#452111

Hope this is helpful

Graham 

 

 

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Gerrit Hofius | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Jan 22 2013 11:43 AM

Ok, thank you very much! Then I'll have to choose now... Big Smile

Just don't want to many apps... Wink

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Philana Crouch | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Jan 22 2013 12:45 PM

I've been using the Verbum iOS app for I think about a month. It actually has a lot of features. This should be similar on the Android.

Like the Logos app it has access to the Bible Word Study and Passage Guides. You can also have access to Faithlife.com on the homepage. I don't think the Logos app had access to Faithlife.com (at least it didn't when I switched). The Faithlife Study Bible app doesn't have the BWS or PG at all. So I think the Verbum app combines the best. While it is preset with Catholic settings, you can use whatever you want.

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Gabe Martin | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Jan 22 2013 4:23 PM

A couple of other app differences to consider:

Proclaim Signal support

Bible and FSB support proclaim presentation signals.

In app store support

Bible, FSB, Biblia and Verbum all have in-app support for the Logos.com mobile storefront. Vyrso has in-app support for the Vyrso.com mobile storefront.

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Philana Crouch | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Jan 22 2013 4:26 PM

Gabe Martin:

Proclaim Signal support

Bible and FSB support proclaim presentation signals.

In my Verbum app I have the option to follow Proclaim Presentations...is this what you mean by presentation signals?

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Gerrit Hofius | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jan 23 2013 12:31 AM

Maybe those differences should be explained at some prominent place so that it's easier to choose the right app?

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Graham Criddle | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jan 23 2013 12:49 AM

Gerrit Hofius:

Maybe those differences should be explained at some prominent place so that it's easier to choose the right app?

That would be really helpful and usefulYes

 

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Gabe Martin | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jan 24 2013 9:10 AM

Philana Crouch:

In my Verbum app I have the option to follow Proclaim Presentations...is this what you mean by presentation signals?

That option should actually not be showing in the Verbum app and will be removed in a future release. The Verbum app does not request location permissions so it would be unable to automatically find nearby live presentations.

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Gabe Martin | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jan 24 2013 12:11 PM

Philana Crouch:

In my Verbum app I have the option to follow Proclaim Presentations...is this what you mean by presentation signals?

What type of device are you using and which version of Verbum do you have installed? I checked on the current Android version and do not see the option to Follow Presentations.

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Graham Criddle | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jan 24 2013 12:22 PM

Hi Gabe

Gabe Martin:

Philana Crouch:

In my Verbum app I have the option to follow Proclaim Presentations...is this what you mean by presentation signals?

What type of device are you using and which version of Verbum do you have installed? I checked on the current Android version and do not see the option to Follow Presentations.

 

In her post, Philana referred to the iOS app so I guess that is where she saw the Proclaim options.

Graham

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Philana Crouch | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jan 24 2013 5:11 PM

Gabe Martin:

The Verbum app does not request location permissions so it would be unable to automatically find nearby live presentations.

I didn't realize there were the differences between Android and the iOS apps. I am using the iOS version, because it accesses and will find nearby groups on faithlife it does use location permissions. 

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Kevin Byford (Faithlife) | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jan 24 2013 6:26 PM

Philana Crouch:

Gabe Martin:

Proclaim Signal support

Bible and FSB support proclaim presentation signals.

In my Verbum app I have the option to follow Proclaim Presentations...is this what you mean by presentation signals?

Hi Philana,

Proclaim Presentations are not supported in Verbum (and yes, that is what presentation signals refer to).  The fact that Proclaim settings are currently available in Verbum on iOS is a bug; this will be removed in a future Verbum release.

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Kevin Byford (Faithlife) | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jan 24 2013 6:30 PM

Philana Crouch:

Gabe Martin:

The Verbum app does not request location permissions so it would be unable to automatically find nearby live presentations.

I didn't realize there were the differences between Android and the iOS apps. I am using the iOS version, because it accesses and will find nearby groups on faithlife it does use location permissions. 

Proclaim Presentations and Faithlife groups both use location services, but Verbum doesn't have Proclaim functionality whereas Faithlife and Logos do.  As mentioned above in this thread, although Proclaim settings are available in Verbum it was an oversight on our part.

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