Multiple Monitors and Logos set-ups

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Fr. Charles R. Matheny | Forum Activity | Posted: Mon, Mar 11 2013 8:50 AM

 I would personally like to see some Logos set-ups with multiple monitors.

I currently use Logos on a macbook with one external 23inch monitor.

Questions:

1. How do you setup with more than one external monitor?

2. How do you use Logos with multiple Monitors? 

3. Would love to see some sample layouts.

4. Is there a way to "move panels" around within the layouts? ( I'm having trouble with this aspect in general).

Thank you.

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David Thomas | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Mar 11 2013 8:54 AM

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Bruce Dunning | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Mar 11 2013 8:58 AM

I originally posted this on the other thread but decided to post it again here since a new one has begun that is more focused. 

I regularly use two monitors or else just my laptop depending on the situation.

I'm not that familiar with the Mac world but the use of multiple monitors is already a feature of windows and is fairly easy to set up.

I would love to see some sample layouts for use on multiple monitors to get some ideas of how best to maximize my study. Right now I don't have any standard format that I use for multiple monitors as I just use the standard layouts that I have created for Logos layouts and open up tabs in new windows and drag them over to the second monitor.

You asked about moving panels around in layouts and for sure this is an option in Logos now. I regularly do this.

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Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :) | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Mar 11 2013 5:26 PM

Fr. Charles R. Matheny:
2. How do you use Logos with multiple Monitors?

Open items in floating windows, then arrange as desired, which can include dragging a tab from one window to another.  When a floating window no longer has any tabs, the window should disappear.

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Room4more | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Mar 11 2013 6:17 PM

The only problem that I have encountered w/dual monitors is that I haven't been able to keep the links "A,B,C, ETC., ETC." when I close the floating and reopen it....anyone experience this as well? or have I missed something....

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abondservant | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Mar 11 2013 7:31 PM

3 display logos setup


I x3 multiple displays... Normally I have resources on the left and right (logos stuff on all three at the moment), and Word open in the middle.

Its cutting the picture off part way... If you right click, then "copy link location" then paste it into your address bar, you can see the whole thing.

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Fr. Charles R. Matheny | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Mar 11 2013 8:18 PM

Dear ABS: Is that a tablet in the center or a monitor that you have flipped up?

Really nice setup, like the soft lighting behind monitors too.

Next: So I can float a resource panel and add tabs to it of other resources?

Thanks folks, need all the info I can get.

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Fr. Charles R. Matheny | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Mar 11 2013 8:19 PM

Dear David: Thanks. Yes, some nice setups. Wish I could see more of what they are doing with them, but nice indeed.

Blessings.

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abondservant | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Mar 11 2013 8:29 PM

No - but I can use my Tablet as a fourth display if the need arises (almost never).

The display in the middle is an HP display I got used from the local computer store... Its got a number of (4) burned out pixels etc... but it was well worth the price.

Its stand has the ability to rotate and tilt the display to nearly any angle. With the confines of my desk, I really appreciated this feature. To the left of the big display on the left (32" diagonal) is where my dead tree books start. The display in the middle and the display to the right are both 23" diagonal.

When you are ready to open a book, right click on the link, and then left click on "open in floating window". The resource can then be dragged around to other display. Other resources can be opened and placed in those windows allowing for ALOT more Logos-useable real estate. Its almost like having logos open 3x, but not quite. The original window retains the "home, library and search" icons as well as the "documents" "guides" and "tools" menus.

Earlier I was studying Elijah :), if that is what you are asking Charles. For the picture, I simply opened up three resources at random from the Library. One is from MacArthur, another from A.W. Pink, and the third window is displaying my Logos "home" screen.

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abondservant | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Mar 11 2013 8:31 PM

My tablet is also in the picture, but in a shadow unfortunately. Thanks for the kind words about my setup. I feel really blessed to have it! Its been accumulated over time (Though some parts were recently updated - Ram (22gb) and my octacore processor were purchased this year), and will likely continue to accumulate. My left hand display I inherited. Its slowly failing however.

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John | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Mar 11 2013 8:32 PM

One big monitor is better than 2 or 3 smaller ones (my opinion).

I am very happy to see the new movement in the industry towards higher quality IPS display technology. We have put up with cheapo TN lcd panels for long enough. I just upgraded to a 27" IPS LED and the display quality is amazing, and much easier on the eyes. Easier to read smaller print at the same resolutions, and less need for additional displays. I do have my old Samsung 23 inch LED as a second display now, but have it turned off most of the time. Cool

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abondservant | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Mar 11 2013 8:40 PM

I think the price point is a big factor for most of us... While a 52" TV would make a much better monitor than 6 displays like mine (Same surface area). However, I have ~200$ into my three, a 52" display is still quite a ways off in terms of price. So in the end, know how much space you have, figure out the best size(s) to suit your space, and then find the displays that are in your price range, and suit your feature needs.

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John | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Mar 11 2013 9:44 PM

abondservant:

I think the price point is a big factor for most of us... While a 52" TV would make a much better monitor than 6 displays like mine (Same surface area). However, I have ~200$ into my three, a 52" display is still quite a ways off in terms of price. So in the end, know how much space you have, figure out the best size(s) to suit your space, and then find the displays that are in your price range, and suit your feature needs.

What you say about price is absolutely true. But size is not the only factor. Quality is even more important in my opinion. They had some great deals on IPS monitors at Best Buy last week, all in the 20 to 24 inch size range. Some of them were selling for less that LCD or LEDs of the same size. The market does not always make sense, but you grab those opportunities when you see them.

A 52" TV would make a terrible monitor. The 1080p standard resolution is optimal for a computer display at about 24-27 inches. A 52 inch TV is designed to be watched from a distance, and has much larger pixel size. The dot pitch or pixel pitch size is too large and makes close up viewing of text and graphics fuzzy.

Take an iPhone 4 or 5 and hold it up next to your computer monitor. Notice any difference in sharpness, contrast and brightness? That is the difference that IPS makes. I see the same difference comparing my android tablet to my wifes iPad 3. The android tablet has a cheap LED display. The iPad 3 has the best available (2048 by 1536 QXGA IPS). When you get older and your eyes are not as good the sharpness is even more important.

The next generation of technology will give us higher resolutions for computer displays. 2560 x 1600 (WQXGA resolution) is already here, and 4k x 2k is possible in the future with current Display Port standards. Expect them to be expensive in larger sizes at first.

We are already seeing higher end video cards and Laptops with Display Port built-in. Eventually we will all have better quality displays. (I got mine early Cool )

 

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abondservant | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Mar 11 2013 9:56 PM

mine are all 1600x900, except the Big one that I inherited. I usually put professors lectures (in quicktime double speed) on it, and watch from my couch.

I know full well what you are saying RE Monitor VS tv. However, I'm not aware of 52" Monitors in production at this point.

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Allen Browne | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Mar 12 2013 12:11 AM

Fr. Charles R. Matheny:
3. Would love to see some sample layouts.

Only one external monitor, but rotated to portrait.

Core layout = two main panels on the laptop screen -- one for Bible text in English, the other for original language. The narrow panel to the right sports Information and Copy Bible (top part); Lookup and Highlighting (bottom part).

That leaves the big portrait monitor for whatever I'm really concentrating on, e.g.:

  • Sometimes another copy of an English bible, several chapters at once.
  • Sometimes commentaries on the book I'm studying.
  • While preparing, that's MS Word (about 1.5 pages on screen at once).
  • Often journal articles, or search results.
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Bruce Dunning | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Mar 12 2013 3:59 AM

I am really liking the photos that are being presenting in this thread now. It helps to see what it actually looks like.

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David Thomas | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Mar 12 2013 5:12 AM

I use a dual monitor set-up with Logos in my left monitor (see layout here http://community.logos.com/forums/p/56363/405167.aspx#405167 ) and my word processor in my right monitor.

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Bob Schlessman | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Mar 12 2013 6:36 AM

John:

One big monitor is better than 2 or 3 smaller ones (my opinion).

I

John, I can't envision a scenario where this would be true for me. I have found my three 21.5" monitor setup quite efficient and highly preferable to a single monitor, not only for Logos but especially for multitasking.

Here is a picture of my setup:

I can also have other programs opened and displayed on different monitors. The resolution is 1920 x 1080 on all three monitors. One nice feature I use in the morning is to open Win TV and have it running the local news program minimized. I can listen to the news and weather while I am working and enjoying my coffee. Of course this requires a TV Card. My setup is the result of four years of upgrading, modifying and experimenting, but this latest arrangement was amazingly simple to accomplish.

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Lee | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Mar 12 2013 9:22 AM

Here is my little setup:

1st == 13" screen on notebook 1366 x 768 used for Timeline, Bible facts, so on ...

2nd == 19" Potalion screen 1440 x 900 used as main Logos display. I really love this as it was a gift for the mission.

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David P. Moore | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Mar 12 2013 1:04 PM

John:
A 52" TV would make a terrible monitor. The 1080p standard resolution is optimal for a computer display at about 24-27 inches. A 52 inch TV is designed to be watched from a distance, and has much larger pixel size. The dot pitch or pixel pitch size is too large and makes close up viewing of text and graphics fuzzy.

John you are absolutely right about screen resolution, as I learned the hard way. Over a year ago I bought an HP Desktop (just for Logos!) that came with an HP2711x 27in monitor. After firing it all up I noticed the font wasn't all that great and played around with different fonts to no avail.. The text all looked very jagged. Finally I went to this forum and someone told me I had a sub-par monitor as the screen resolution was giving me about 88 pixels-per-inch. I was disappoited, as I thought I had done my research. I eventually turned that monitor into a TV and bought an Dell U2711 27-inch with a resolution of 2560 x 1440, which gives me about 109 ppi, which is a lot better than 88.

Ever since then, I've always paid attention to pixels-per-inch when it comes to monitors (I go to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_displays_by_pixel_density as they are all calculated out).

My latest purchase was a ASUS N56VJ-DH71 with a 15.6-Inch display, and it gives me 141 ppi--not iPhone sharp but very good text rendering on a 15inch laptop. 

 

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