Make the ESV Reverse Interlinear available for purchase outside of the base packages

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George Somsel | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jun 27 2009 11:34 PM

MatthewCJones:

I beg to differ with George on GREEK being unapproachable by the average Bible student. I also believe the Reverse Interlinear Bibles are a good tool to have at one's disposal. and commend LOGOS for making them available. Language acquisition is accomplished more often by immersion and osmosis than rote memorization. My first two languages were learned this way. (Most missionary kids learn the spoken language faster on the street than their parents do in language school.) The "play" stage of learning is when the student may greatly benefit from Reverse Interlinears & the Audio Greek NT - even if you can't keep up with it or pronounce it differently. I am not suggesting abandonment of scholarly pursuit of language study, just maybe a little "touching of the palate" to familiarize new students. Crying.

You may beg all day long and differ by as much as you like, but I did not say that Greek is unapproachable to the average Bible student.  Immersion in a language is almost certainly the best and quickest way to learn it; however, an interlinear, whether reverse or not, is not a way to immerse one's self in the language.  Indeed, it is almost precisely the opposite.  With an interlinear you have the English staring you in the face all the time.  I've got a dollar to a sack of doughnut holes that says you can't avoid looking at the English, and the moment you peek it is by definition no longer immersion.  If you want immersion in Greek (or Hebrew), I know of an Ulpan in Israel where you can experience that.

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Mark Ledbetter | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Oct 22 2010 2:08 PM

i would like to post what I really feel about some of the posts here, but i just couldn't do it. Devil

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Mark Ledbetter | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Oct 22 2010 2:10 PM

new here and made a mistake in posting so i will try again: i would really like to respond to some of the responses, but i am afraid that i might offend someone. Devil

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Rosie Perera | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Oct 22 2010 3:00 PM

Mark Ledbetter:

new here and made a mistake in posting so i will try again: i would really like to respond to some of the responses, but i am afraid that i might offend someone. Devil

Hi Mark, welcome to the Logos forums. Check the date of the last post in a thread before responding to it. This one had lain dormant since June 2009, so there's pretty much no point in responding to any of the posts in it. Start a new thread if you'd like to say something in general on this subject again, but don't respond to something someone said over 16 months ago. They probably don't remember saying it, and certainly aren't in the same mood they were in when they did. And yes, you might offend someone if you're feeling devilish. Wink

Introduce yourself on the Newbies!! thread or ask a question about getting to know Logos 4 better, make a suggestion for improvement in the software, or whatever. Hope you find the forums helpful!

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