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Kent | Forum Activity | Posted: Fri, Jun 28 2013 10:39 PM

Has anyone purchased the Puritan Hard Drive?

Has it proved to be of value?

If so, how?

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Mark Barnes | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jun 29 2013 12:57 AM

Kent:

Has anyone purchased the Puritan Hard Drive?

Has it proved to be of value?

If so, how?

I have it. If I'm honest I tend to use it only if I know what book I want to read. I rarely use the search to find books, although that's partly because I have the download version. With that, you can only download books one at a time. If I had the 'proper' version, with all PDFs stored locally, I might build up an Acrobat index using Acrobat Pro and use that search facility, as the interface is very clunky. You can still search books you haven't downloaded, as there's an index of major works available for each book. But you can only search for one keyword at a time.

On the other hand, once you've found the work you want, the scans are pretty good. They're clear, have been marked up well (in terms of a TOC, at least), and the OCR is very accurate (much better than you'd expect). The only fault of the scan is that the dpi setting is very low, presumably for space reasons (they must have been scanned at a higher dpi, and then reduced after OCRing).

I'd love to see them all in Logos instead, but until that happens, I'm happy with my purchase. I just wish they'd put some work into the software and allow you to download all the books and create a proper index.

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Bruce Dunning | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jun 29 2013 4:45 AM

Mark Barnes:
I'd love to see them all in Logos instead

Me too. I wonder what the chances are that will ever happen.

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JOSHUA DAVIS | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jun 29 2013 4:50 AM

Mark Barnes:

Kent:

Has anyone purchased the Puritan Hard Drive?

Has it proved to be of value?

If so, how?

I have it. If I'm honest I tend to use it only if I know what book I want to read. I rarely use the search to find books, although that's partly because I have the download version. With that, you can only download books one at a time. If I had the 'proper' version, with all PDFs stored locally, I might build up an Acrobat index using Acrobat Pro and use that search facility, as the interface is very clunky. You can still search books you haven't downloaded, as there's an index of major works available for each book. But you can only search for one keyword at a time.

On the other hand, once you've found the work you want, the scans are pretty good. They're clear, have been marked up well (in terms of a TOC, at least), and the OCR is very accurate (much better than you'd expect). The only fault of the scan is that the dpi setting is very low, presumably for space reasons (they must have been scanned at a higher dpi, and then reduced after OCRing).

I'd love to see them all in Logos instead, but until that happens, I'm happy with my purchase. I just wish they'd put some work into the software and allow you to download all the books and create a proper index.

I bought one about a year ago and I agree completely with Mark's post.  To be honest with you, I forget that I have the PHD at times b/c I use Logos so much.

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Philip Larson | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jun 29 2013 5:11 AM

I also purchased it, before I got serious about Logos.

I used it rarely, so I gave it away.

I thought their goals were great, and the implementation was quite usable.

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Duncan Campbell | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Aug 31 2013 12:06 AM

Hi,

I'm thinking of buying the puritan hard drive on demand edition, with an offer they having running atm. I just wanted to check with other users:

From what I read in this thread, you can only download one resource at a time. Does that mean you can only keep one downloaded file at a time, or that you have to select the files individually for them to download.

I was hoping to store the 100gb or so of pdfs in my 1tb cloud so that I could access them for reading from my tablet. Do you think that would be feasible, or would it take too much user input to download each file individually.

I appreciate any advice.

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Mark Barnes | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Aug 31 2013 1:44 PM

Duncan Campbell:
From what I read in this thread, you can only download one resource at a time. Does that mean you can only keep one downloaded file at a time, or that you have to select the files individually for them to download.

It means you can only download one resource at a time. The download happens quite quickly (assuming you have a high-speed internet connection), but it doesn't happen in the background, which means you have to wait for the download to finish before continuing to use the software. If you're prepared to go through this process enough times, you can keep as many downloaded resources as you wish.

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Robert Harner | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Aug 31 2013 8:20 PM

Because the download version was under $100 I finally decided to get it a couple days ago. I downloaded over 1800 items today, with high speed it is not long. I don't see near the number of resources they claim, most are mp3s but I'll go though some of the video tutorials tomorrow afternoon. Perhaps I'm missing something. As it is now I'm sure I'll get more than my moneys worth out of it - that is what counts after all. 

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Duncan Campbell | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Sep 1 2013 7:17 AM

That's good to know Robert, that the downloads are reasonably quick. I'm on an 80Mb fibre connection, so I might be ok. I just wasn't sure whether I needed to stretch to the usb drive version, if the downloads would take a long time. You see, I plan to upload the pdfs to my livedrive cloud to access from my 10" tablet for reading on the go.

Can I ask, are you able to choose the location on your pc the files download to, or is the folder they download to easy to find? Also, could someone tell me, when you order and pay on their website, do you get download links automatically emailed, or does it take a few days while a person sends it?

Thanks

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Mark Barnes | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Sep 1 2013 9:05 AM

Duncan Campbell:
Can I ask, are you able to choose the location on your pc the files download to, or is the folder they download to easy to find?

I don't think it's possible to change, it just uses subfolders of the place your installed the programme. You would need to use symbolic links, or install the program on your LiveDrive to ensure that the files it downloads were saved to your LiveDrive.

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Duncan Campbell | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Sep 1 2013 10:23 AM

That would be ok, as long as I can locate the folder, I can copy the pdfs to the livedrive cloud. I would probably want them stored on the laptop anyway.

How do you find the searching Mark?

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Mark Barnes | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Sep 1 2013 1:02 PM

Duncan Campbell:
How do you find the searching Mark?

The interface is very clunky. You can  search books you haven't downloaded, as there's an index of the important words available for each book. You can only search for one keyword at a time, but when you perform a second search you can choose to AND or OR the results to the old search (called 'limit' or 'add').

If you have Acrobat Pro, or similar software, you'd  be better creating your own index out of the PDFs themselves. That would allow you to search the full text of each downloaded resource, which currently you can't do.

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Robert Harner | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Sep 1 2013 2:08 PM

Duncan Campbell:

That's good to know Robert, that the downloads are reasonably quick. I'm on an 80Mb fibre connection, so I might be ok. I just wasn't sure whether I needed to stretch to the usb drive version, if the downloads would take a long time. You see, I plan to upload the pdfs to my livedrive cloud to access from my 10" tablet for reading on the go.

Can I ask, are you able to choose the location on your pc the files download to, or is the folder they download to easy to find? Also, could someone tell me, when you order and pay on their website, do you get download links automatically emailed, or does it take a few days while a person sends it?

Thanks

Blessings

Duncan

When you pay you get a link then. I used it to download the initial stub that you run to get the base app. I put it on an almost new portable usb hd. In there is a readme that directs you to an html page in the Apps directory you can use to download the index files. They are 7 zip files totaling 1.2 GB. They unzip to 1.43 GB and did not take very long to download. The program downloads the PDF files in a directory cryptically named PDF.

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Mark Barnes | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Sep 1 2013 2:37 PM

Robert Harner:
In there is a readme that directs you to an html page in the Apps directory you can use to download the index files. They are 7 zip files totaling 1.2 GB. They unzip to 1.43 GB and did not take very long to download.

Thanks for pointing that out - I didn't know about that. That eliminates the need for Acrobat Pro in my earlier comment, and means that you have full text searching for all the PDF files (even those you haven't yet downloaded).

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Super.Tramp | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Sep 1 2013 2:38 PM

Robert Harner:
The program downloads the PDF files in a directory cryptically named PDF
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I have the old collections on CDs.  I dread copying all of them to my hard drive.

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Robert Harner | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Sep 1 2013 3:12 PM

Super Tramp:

I have the old collections on CDs.  I dread copying all of them to my hard drive.

You wouldn't, per chance, be referring to the 30 CD Reformation Bookshelf and 32 CD Puritan Bookshelf would you?  34.5 GB

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Mark Barnes | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Sep 1 2013 4:49 PM

Duncan Campbell:
I was hoping to store the 100gb or so of pdfs in my 1tb cloud so that I could access them for reading from my tablet.

All the PDFs together 'only' come to 24.8Gb, plus a PDF index of 1.4Gb, and the program/indexes of 1.6Gb. The 95-100GB referred to on the website includes the MP3 files, which are a further 59.3Gb, and the videos which are 4.32Gb.

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Gabe Martini | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Sep 1 2013 6:08 PM

I'm not sure if anyone has noticed, but many of the collections from this are being added to Community Pricing.

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Bruce Dunning | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Sep 2 2013 4:35 PM

Gabe Martini:

I'm not sure if anyone has noticed, but many of the collections from this are being added to Community Pricing.

Since I don't have the Puritan Hard Drive I didn't know this but thanks for telling us. Has anyone compiled a list of these?

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Liam | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Sep 2 2013 5:20 PM

Gabe Martini:

I'm not sure if anyone has noticed, but many of the collections from this are being added to Community Pricing.

Gabe, it would be great if Logos literally went through the list of all the titles and put every single one in community pricing!

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