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Rick | Forum Activity | Posted: Tue, Aug 13 2013 7:42 AM

This would probably sell a whole lot better if Logos did not require us to buy a bundle priced at $459.95 to get the two resources that the lectures are based on.

Edit: Here is the link: http://www.logos.com/product/34026/zondervan-biblical-languages-video-lectures

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JT (alabama24) | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Aug 13 2013 7:49 AM

I don't know if you have a point or not. I have no idea what you are talking about. It would be good to explain more and provide a link Wink

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Rick | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Aug 13 2013 7:55 AM

alabama24:

I don't know if you have a point or not. I have no idea what you are talking about. It would be good to explain more and provide a link Wink

Wow! I can't believe that I forgot that bit of information! To funny! Thanks Alabama.  Yes

OP updated to make a bit of sense.

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Mark Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Aug 13 2013 7:56 AM

Rick, I believe you are referring to this? If so, I agree.

There have been many requests for Logos to break up the languages bundle, which clearly isn't going to be done at this point. I suppose this offer would only appeal to those who are committed to buying that bundle.

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Rick | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Aug 13 2013 7:57 AM

Mark Smith:
Rick, I believe you are referring to this?

Yes Mark, you are correct. I feel silly for forgetting the link! I updated my post.

Mark Smith:
I suppose this offer would only appeal to those who are committed to buying that bundle.

My thoughts exactly.

Thank you.

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Tom Reynolds | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Aug 13 2013 8:00 AM

That is pretty silly but lots of people already have the paper volume so perhaps that's a bigger market.

The real irony is in the description for Mounce: "William D. Mounce (PhD, Aberdeen University) lives as a writer in Spokane, Washington. He is the president of Biblical Training, a non-profit organization offering the finest in evangelical teaching to the world for free."

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Rick | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Aug 13 2013 8:12 AM

Tom Reynolds:
That is pretty silly but lots of people already have the paper volume so perhaps that's a bigger market.

I had considered that, but since I was truly only slightly interested, I decided against going with hard copies of the books. It would seem that Logos would want to avoid people buying hard copies and use/buy Logos resources. Also, I am not sure if the videos use any kind of "special features" of Logos that a person would not get the full benefit of if using hard copies.

My main concern is for those who would definitely jump for the lectures if it were not for the steep price of the bundle. As Mark stated, I guess that the vast majority of people interested will be those who made the initial investment of the bundle.

My line of thought is "If I am not interested enough to invest in the resources required, maybe I am not interested enough in trying to benefit from the videos".

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Randy W. Sims | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Aug 13 2013 8:20 AM

It would've been nice to see separate greek and a hebrew kits with the book, videos, and the vocabulary cards as a Logos word list. The workbook is naturally better in print.

I wonder if there are other places where Logos could enhance their resource offerings with pre-made Logos Documents?

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Matthew C Jones | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Aug 13 2013 8:28 AM

Randy W. Sims (Shayne):
The workbook is naturally better in print.

Is it not possible to print out the workbooks?

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David Thomas | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Aug 13 2013 8:38 AM

Randy W. Sims (Shayne):

It would've been nice to see separate greek and a hebrew kits with the book, videos, and the vocabulary cards as a Logos word list.

Now THAT is a bundle that makes sense!

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Randy W. Sims | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Aug 13 2013 8:52 AM

Super Tramp:

Randy W. Sims (Shayne):
The workbook is naturally better in print.

Is it not possible to print out the workbooks?

I may not have thought that out well. I may have been assuming a bit much. I haven't done a lot of printing with Logos but I've noticed it seems to cut some elements like tables in awkward places on page breaks. The BBG Workbooks contains a number of tables. It may not be as awkward as I'm thinking.

The BBG workbooks contains perforated pages for easily removing them and making copies. It also is three-hole punched so the book and original pages can be kept orderly in a binder. That's all nice and neat as it can be, but definitely more awkward than simply printing them out. I just wish Logos was a bit better at page layout.

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Mike Tourangeau | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Aug 13 2013 1:34 PM

Are these video's imbedded into Logos or shipped to us?

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Matthew C Jones | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Aug 13 2013 1:44 PM

Randy W. Sims (Shayne):
The BBG workbooks contains perforated pages for easily removing them and making copies. It also is three-hole punched so the book and original pages can be kept orderly in a binder.

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The workbook for Greek Grammar Beyond the Basics is available as a downloadable eBook. I don't know if it is printable (DRM) but it should be.

This workbook is part of the bundle. HERE

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