Top Arminian based commentary on the book of Romans

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Wild Eagle | Forum Activity | Posted: Mon, Aug 19 2013 2:03 PM

I am studying the book of Romans. So far, the top commentaries I looked lean toward Calvinism. I would really like to see Arminian view point (Especially Romans 9-11), Can anyone suggest which commentary I should use.

PS: I am looking more scholarly commentary rather than devotional... 

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Jack Caviness | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Aug 19 2013 2:08 PM

Have 3 in my library, but cannot vouch for their scholarly level.

Barrett, C. K. The Epistle to the Romans. Rev. ed. Black’s New Testament Commentary. London: Continuum, 1991.

Bence, Clarence L. Romans: A Bible Commentary in the Wesleyan Tradition. Indianapolis, IN: Wesleyan Publishing House, 1996.

Wesley, John. Explanatory Notes Upon the New Testament. Fourth American Edition. New York: J. Soule and T. Mason, 1818.

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Gary Osborne | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Aug 19 2013 2:42 PM

By far the best Arminian-based commentary on Romans would be Adam Clarke's Commentary.  Unfortunately it's been languishing in Community Pricing (in other words its unavailable at this time) for quite a while now.

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NB.Mick | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Aug 19 2013 2:55 PM

You will find non-calvinist commentaries at http://www.squidoo.com/arminiancommentaries (somehow the site seems broken currently, at least for my Chrome browser). Some that come to mind: 

I don't know if these are "scholarly" as you define it....

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Ben | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Aug 19 2013 3:15 PM

When I saw the title, I thought "boy, who knew Armenia produced so many commentaries that they could be ranked?"

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Doc B | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Aug 19 2013 3:17 PM

Wild Eagle:
I would really like to see Armenian view point

For what it is worth, Armenians are citizens of an Eastern European country.  Arminians are followers of Jacobus Arminius, the Dutch theologian.

[Maybe there's a reason the top commentaries are Calvinistic...].  Big Smile

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Michael Childs | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Aug 19 2013 5:58 PM

I suggest Ben Witherington's commentary on Romans and Clarence Bence's  commentary, Romans, A Commentary in the Wesleyan Tradition

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Kenneth Neighoff | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Aug 19 2013 6:35 PM

I would highly recommend, Greathouse and Lyons two volume work.  It is found only in a bundle right now in Logos, http://www.logos.com/product/8645/new-beacon-bible-commentary-library-volume-1

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Kenneth Neighoff | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Aug 19 2013 6:47 PM

They can be purchased individually.  Romans 1-8 and Romans 9-16

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Wild Eagle | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Aug 19 2013 6:52 PM

Thank you all very much for your input. I changed the title, hope now the spell is right Embarrassed

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Wild Eagle | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Aug 19 2013 6:56 PM

hmm, from 3.5 thousands books I have Logos 4 platinum + others seems like I have none of Arminian commentary. Need to spend some $$$

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John | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Aug 19 2013 10:26 PM

Doc B:

[Maybe there's a reason the top commentaries are Calvinistic...].  Big Smile

Correct, there is a reason. Because the so-called Arminians were quickly killed, imprisoned or exiled before they had a chance to become established.

You will not find much in the way of "Arminian" commentaries on Romans 9. The correct interpretation is found by understanding that Romans 9 was not a new teaching, but in fact most of the chapter is merely quotations from Isaiah and Jeremiah regarding Israel. Even the verses that according to Calvinists teach election (and damnation) of individuals are quotations from passages that teach something quite different.

Calvinists turn the "Potter" in Romans 9 into a potter who desires to destroy individuals, but in scripture God is only portrayed as a potter over Israel as a nation. This is a very simple but absolutely true Biblical fact which proves all the Calvinist commentaries on the passage to be totally false.

And last but not least, Paul wrote a conclusion to Romans 9 that starts in verse 30. You will notice that all Calvinist commentary on Romans 9 ends at verse 27 or 28 (if not before), and comes to far different conclusions than Paul did.

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Mark Barnes | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Aug 20 2013 1:06 AM

elnwood:

Witherington and Lenski are not Calvinists, but they're not Arminians, either. Witherington doesn't like to be put in either camp, and Lenski is Lutheran.

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Evan Boardman | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Aug 20 2013 5:20 AM

John, I don't think you want to go there. Lot will want to debate you, but this forum isn't for debating.

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Whyndell Grizzard | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Aug 20 2013 6:29 AM

John:

Doc B:

[Maybe there's a reason the top commentaries are Calvinistic...].  Big Smile

Correct, there is a reason. Because the so-called Arminians were quickly killed, imprisoned or exiled before they had a chance to become established.

You will not find much in the way of "Arminian" commentaries on Romans 9. The correct interpretation is found by understanding that Romans 9 was not a new teaching, but in fact most of the chapter is merely quotations from Isaiah and Jeremiah regarding Israel. Even the verses that according to Calvinists teach election (and damnation) of individuals are quotations from passages that teach something quite different.

Calvinists turn the "Potter" in Romans 9 into a potter who desires to destroy individuals, but in scripture God is only portrayed as a potter over Israel as a nation. This is a very simple but absolutely true Biblical fact which proves all the Calvinist commentaries on the passage to be totally false.

And last but not least, Paul wrote a conclusion to Romans 9 that starts in verse 30. You will notice that all Calvinist commentary on Romans 9 ends at verse 27 or 28 (if not before), and comes to far different conclusions than Paul did.

The scripture really does speak for itself ... but not all of us are always willing to listen when it does.

 

Well I just checked all my "reformed" commentaries on Romans, and they all address Rom. 9.30-33, maybe someone has misled you?

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Robert M. Warren | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Aug 20 2013 10:07 AM

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elnwood | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Aug 20 2013 11:09 AM

Mark Barnes:

elnwood:

Witherington and Lenski are not Calvinists, but they're not Arminians, either. Witherington doesn't like to be put in either camp, and Lenski is Lutheran.

Thanks for the clarification, Mark. I'm simply trying to be helpful to the original poster, though, and not claiming to speak for Lenski or Witherington.

The Logos product page for Lenski quotes Cyril Barber as saying that Lenski is "Armenian (sic) in doctrine." Ben Witherington III is ordained in the United Methodist Church and teaches at Asbury Seminary, also a Methodist institution.

So I would say that Lenski is Arminian in doctrine, if not by denominational association, while Witherington is Arminian by denominational association, if not doctrine also. Either way, I think the original poster should find both commentaries representative of the Arminian position on the book of Romans.

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Mark Barnes | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Aug 20 2013 12:23 PM

elnwood:
Ben Witherington III is ordained in the United Methodist Church and teaches at Asbury Seminary, also a Methodist institution.

Witherington has written a critique of Calvinism, Dispensationalism and Wesleyanism in The Problem with Evangelical Theology (in case you were wondering, they're all wrong Wink).

elnwood:
So I would say that Lenski is Arminian in doctrine, if not by denominational association,

In his commentary on Philippians, Lenski says "Thank God, Paul is neither an Arminian Calvinist nor a Calvinistic Arminian. The Arminians and the Calvinists do better than that; each holds only one error instead of combining two. Paul held neither error."

But you're right in that he's certainly closer to the Arminian position than any Calvinist, and would be helpful to the original poster.

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elnwood | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Aug 20 2013 2:20 PM

Mark Barnes:

elnwood:
Ben Witherington III is ordained in the United Methodist Church and teaches at Asbury Seminary, also a Methodist institution.

Witherington has written a critique of Calvinism, Dispensationalism and Wesleyanism in The Problem with Evangelical Theology (in case you were wondering, they're all wrong Wink).

Interesting. Perhaps we should be five-point Witheringtonians?

Does Witherington claim to not be Wesleyan? I mean, I'm a Calvinist and a Baptist, but I can critique Calvinists and Baptists all day ...

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