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Ed | Forum Activity | Posted: Sun, Sep 29 2013 2:28 AM

When I remove the Lexham English Bible (LEB) from my iOS device, it reappears whenever the app is restarted. I have even hidden the resource on my desktop Logos 5 app, but it still persistently shows up in my iOS library. This is clearly a bug ... or an overly aggressive marketing strategy. Whichever, can this please be fixed?

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Mike Pettit | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Sep 29 2013 3:36 AM

It seems like a perfectly sensible design choice to me, it ensures that there is at least once bible available which ensures functionality and will reduce support demands if users delete all bibles.

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Ed | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Sep 29 2013 6:44 AM

Mike Pettit:

...it ensures that there is at least once bible available which ensures functionality and will reduce support demands if users delete all bibles.

For first-run and new users, I would agree. But if the user has chosen a preferred Bible, shouldn't the user's preference be the default instead of forcing the LEB into a user's library, even after the user specifically deletes it? A simple IF/THEN/ELSE block in the iOS code would probably fix this, which is all I'm asking for. Also, the desktop app allows the LEB to be a hidden resource, and the iOS app ignores this preference ... it always shows the LEB whether you want it or not. To me, this looks more like a bug than a feature.

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JT (alabama24) | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Sep 29 2013 1:19 PM

The app, for whatever reason, needs a base version. Formerly, it was the ASV, but now it is the LEB. It isn't a bug, and to call it "marketing" is a stretch.  Logos does not sell the LEB.

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Dan Francis | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Sep 29 2013 2:38 PM

Had similar issues with trying to delete the ASV in one mobile app and the ESV in the other… they are stuck there… :(

-Dan

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Martin Grainger Dean | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Sep 29 2013 2:42 PM
I guess it's a theological reason for this. The Bible just can't be "hidden". Big Smile
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Kevin Byford (Faithlife) | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Sep 30 2013 12:05 PM

Ed:

When I remove the Lexham English Bible (LEB) from my iOS device, it reappears whenever the app is restarted. I have even hidden the resource on my desktop Logos 5 app, but it still persistently shows up in my iOS library. This is clearly a bug ... or an overly aggressive marketing strategy. Whichever, can this please be fixed?

This is by design and has nothing to do with marketing.  If the app allows customers to delete every Bible, things won't work when offline.  The ASV used to be the bundled Bible that users couldn't delete but the resource is now the LEB.

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Kevin Byford (Faithlife) | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Sep 30 2013 12:12 PM

Ed:
But if the user has chosen a preferred Bible, shouldn't the user's preference be the default instead of forcing the LEB into a user's library, even after the user specifically deletes it?

If you select a preferred Bible it will be the default for your account instead of the LEB.  However, the term "preferred" doesn't mean "this is the Bible I never want to be able to delete from the app."  Our intent is to always make sure there is at least one Bible available at all times.  If we didn't do that I expect there would be far more bug reports.

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Michael moody | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Apr 12 2017 6:53 PM

Actually it says due to licensing it cannot be removed. Yes it definitely is marketing. And annoying.

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