Passage List in Passage Guide

The result of Save as Passage List in the Parallel Passages section for Mt 24:1 is less than helpful:-

  • Mt 24-25
  • Mk 13:1–37
  • Lk 19:44
  • Lk 21:5–36

A few passages dominate the important ones.

Dave
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  • Member, Community Manager, Logos Employee Posts: 5,487

    Dave, all of the references found in the section are merged together to prevent duplicated/overlapping references. If this wasn't done, then your passage list for the above would look something like:

    • Mt 24:1
    • Mt 24:1
    • Mt 24:1-2
    • Mt 24:1-2
    • Mt 24-25
    • Mt 24:1-2
    • Mt 24:1
    • Mt 24:1
    • etc

    To me, this seems redundant and not useful.

    Andrew Batishko | Logos software developer

  • MVP Posts: 36,143

    Dave, all of the references found in the section are merged together to prevent duplicated/overlapping references

    There shouldn't be duplicate references but overlapping allows for quick editing if necessary  e.g.

    It is meaningless when all the Mt references are summed as Mt 24-25, and all the Mk references are summed as Mk 13:1-37.

    Dave
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  • Member Posts: 15,432 ✭✭✭

    Dave, all of the references found in the section are merged together to prevent duplicated/overlapping references.

    This is an interesting question. I created a passage list like this very recently (using the clipboard), and had my passage list dominated by two very large passages (Gen 1:1-2:15, and Gen 1:1-2:7, from memory). I deleted them as they were both unhelpful. If you had merged beforehand, I would have lost all the smaller passages (Gen 1:1-2, Gen 1:6-7, etc.), which is not what I would have wanted.

    I don't really have a solution to this problem, other than to confirm Dave's point that generally, I don't want long passages in my passage list, I prefer to have the smaller chunks.

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  • Member, Community Manager, Logos Employee Posts: 5,487

    Thanks for the feedback on this feature. Our designers are taking a look at this issue and we will likely be making some changes to the behavior in a future beta.

    Andrew Batishko | Logos software developer

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  • Member Posts: 1,532 ✭✭✭

    Thanks for the feedback on this feature. Our designers are taking a look at this issue and we will likely be making some changes to the behavior in a future beta.

    This will be fixed in 5.2 Beta 2. 

  • MVP Posts: 36,143

    This will be fixed in 5.2 Beta 2.

    It is an elegant solution, virtually duplicating the layout of Parallel Passages, but unwieldy for (my) practical use where a simple list of the unique passages would have sufficed.

    Dave
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  • Member Posts: 8,948 ✭✭✭

    It is an elegant solution, virtually duplicating the layout of Parallel Passages, but unwieldy for (my) practical use where a simple list of the unique passages would have sufficed.

    Agreed. Copy > New Passage List > Add from clipboard > Sort gives a much more useful list.

    Except I don't understand why it sorts 

    • Mt 24-25
    • Mt 24:1-2
    • Mt 24:1

    I would have expected the opposite order, with successively longer passages, not successively shorter ones. I would only expect successively shorter ones if the list was something like Jn 1:1-3; Jn 1:2-3; Jn 1:3.

    Also, it took me quite a bit of time to figure out how to find the Save as Passage List option. I don't think I'm the only one who instinctively right-click among the references, not on the section heading. If Dave and the release notes hadn't been so adamant that it should be possible, I would have assumed that there was no right-click menu available. But I still tried several other things before it occurred to me to try the heading. And compared to most users, I'm supposed to be pretty Logos literate...[8-|]

    And I never knew I could insert headings in a PL. Nice! How long has that been there without me knowing about it?

    Mac Pro (late 2013) OS 12.6.2

  • MVP Posts: 36,143

    fgh said:

    And I never knew I could insert headings in a PL. Nice! How long has that been there without me knowing about it?

    Since the beginning (about 2yrs on Mac).

    Dave
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  • Member Posts: 8,948 ✭✭✭

    about 2yrs on Mac

    Oops...[:)][:$] I must have missed some release notes at some stage.

    Mac Pro (late 2013) OS 12.6.2

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