Video series on preparing a sermon complete!

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Mark Barnes | Forum Activity | Posted: Mon, Dec 21 2009 6:18 PM

I've now finished my video series on preparing a sermon. It's in four parts, and the first two I've posted before. Here's all the videos, in case you missed some. It's best to view them in full screen mode. Once you've clicked play, look for the little button with four arrows next to the Vimeo logo.

Getting Started

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Note-taking

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Exegesis

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Writing a sermon outline

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Stein Dahl | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Dec 21 2009 6:39 PM

I don't see a link to them.  Clicked on the link below and it takes me to your web site where there are still ony 2 vidoes on preparing a sermon with Logos 4.

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LaRosa Johnson | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Dec 21 2009 7:06 PM

great job on #3 Smile thx again

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Bruce Junkermann | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Dec 21 2009 8:02 PM

Thanks Mark for #3.  Do you collect information as you did in #2 using notes and clippings during your exegesis for things like word studies, quotes from commentators, and the like?

I noticed the notes on context.

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Rosie Perera | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Dec 21 2009 8:18 PM

Fantastic, Mark. Thank you again! I've updated the wiki and will add part 4 as soon as it's available.

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Mark Barnes | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Dec 22 2009 1:35 AM

Thanks Rosie, it's ready now.

Did you see my question to you about video embedding on one of your old threads? http://community.logos.com/forums/p/7608/60979.aspx#60979

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Rosie Perera | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Dec 22 2009 1:52 AM

Mark Barnes:

Thanks Rosie, it's ready now.

Thanks!

Mark Barnes:

Did you see my question to you about video embedding on one of your old threads? http://community.logos.com/forums/p/7608/60979.aspx#60979

I'd missed it. Thanks! I'll go answer it there now.

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Rosie Perera | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Dec 22 2009 3:32 AM

Great, you've embedded them. Now could you edit your post one more time and insert the titles of each part above the corresponding videos? Thanks!

Also, I wanted to thank you for the tip on turning note markers different colors. I hadn't discovered that little feature yet -- it's a good one.

Finally, have you reported the bug(s) about cutting/pasting and dragging text in Notes messing up the entire formatting or just the font?

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Ron Corbett | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Dec 22 2009 4:37 AM

Mark,

On the Note Taking video  I see great potential to work on sermons / teachings within LOGOS. I experimented yesterday with a topic and now have 8 "folders of Clippings - some of which have Notes added". I have to say that this approach has realy inspired me. What a great way to put LOGOS to work for us. I love it.

My vote is to develop this area even more so it can take us from the sermon-idea to the printed page. My question is how to transfer my work to a portable form of some kind. Could we have a way to "Export to ___ (Microsoft Word)" for instance or "Create a Powerpoint" from an item in Favorites. How do you do this now?

My other concern is that ... in time, will the Favorites / Clippings files become unmanagable due to the sheer numbers of files. Is there a way to organize files within this system?

[BTW - thanks for ALL these videos - very informative & practical. Our LOGOS experience has taken yet another huge leap forward.]

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Mark Barnes | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Dec 22 2009 4:52 AM

Ron,

In the final video I give a few more tips at making favourites better organised and more manageable. Without favourites, notes would be unmanageable, but I think using favourites it should be fine.

Getting data out of Logos isn't easy at the moment. Copy/Paste is really the only way. But you're right, some kind of export facility would be very useful.

Mark

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Kaye Anderson | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Dec 22 2009 7:27 AM

Thanks so much!  I have learned something about Logos and about scripture study with each one I've watched.  I appreciate how much effort you put into guiding us, especially while seeing how much work you put into leading your own congregation.

Kaye

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LaRosa Johnson | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Dec 22 2009 9:33 AM

hey Mark... i'd be interested in seeing the books you put in your 3 different commentary collections (Intermediate, Expository & Academic), if you don't mind sharing that with us Smile

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_ | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Dec 22 2009 9:34 AM

Mark,

Thank you very much for the videos, they are superb and extremely helpful.  I noticed in the first video that you have a list of collections in the cited by tool when you clicked the down arrow.  I can view my collections individually, but am unable to figure out how to make a list of collections appear in the cited by tool.  Thank you!

Si 

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LaRosa Johnson | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Dec 22 2009 9:40 AM

@SiCochran - that feature is in Logos 4.0a (currently in RC2)

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Terry Poperszky | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Dec 22 2009 9:51 AM

Mark, thank you very much for the time and effort needed to create these and I want to especially thank you for emphasizing the need to let the biblical text speak to you before resorting to other tools. One of the most dreaded comments I hear in SS class, is that "My study bible says that the verse means this", when they haven't even begun to let the verse speak for itself. BTW, I loved your methodology for note taking.

 

 

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Mark Barnes | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Dec 22 2009 9:53 AM

LaRosa Johnson:

hey Mark... i'd be interested in seeing the books you put in your 3 different commentary collections (Intermediate, Expository & Academic), if you don't mind sharing that with us Smile

I've added them to the bottom of the wiki page, now. I decided to do it by series. It leaves about 20% unclassified. Obviously you can make this better by manually dragging those over, or adding author criteria in, but it was good enough for my purposes.

Single-volume commentaries

  • Library Size: 3,549
  • Collection Size: 13
  • Rule: type:commentary AND subject:”Bible—Commentaries” ANDNOT subject:”Bible—Commentaries—Collected works”
  • Manually Included Items: none
  • Manually Excluded Items: none

Academic commentaries

  • Library Size: 3,549
  • Collection Size: 259
  • Rule: type:bible-commentary series:(“New International Commentary on the Old and New Testament”, “New International Greek Testament Commentary”, Hermeneia, “Critical Commentary”, JPS, Pillar, “socio-rhetorical”, “word biblical”, “ancient christian commentary”, “Baker Exegetical”)
  • Manually Included Items: none
  • Manually Excluded Items: none

Intermediate commentaries

  • Library Size: 3,549
  • Collection Size: 346
  • Rule: type:bible-commentary AND series:(“baker new testament”, “bible speaks today”, “black’s new testament”, “book of Isaiah (Young)”, “Calvin’s Commentary”, Ellicott, “Charles Hodge”, “Hebrews (Owen)”, “Holman New Testament”, “International Theological”, “IVP New Testament”, Lange, Lenski, “New American”, Barnhouse, “United Bible Societies’ Handbooks”)
  • Manually Included Items: none
  • Manually Excluded Items: none

Expository commentaries

  • Library Size: 3,549
  • Collection Size: 275
  • Rule: type:bible-commentary AND series:(exposit, believer, “daily study”, horae, “MacArthur New Testament”, preach, pulpit, Wiersbe)
  • Manually Included Items: none
  • Manually Excluded Items: none

Unclassified commentaries

  • Library Size: 3,549
  • Collection Size: 227
  • Rule: type:bible-commentary
  • Manually Included Items: none
  • Manually Excluded Items: {Academic Commentaries}, {Intermediate Commentaries}, {Expository Commentaries}
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_ | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Dec 22 2009 12:32 PM

@LaRosa Johnson

Thank you!  That would explain everything.  

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Bruce Junkermann | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Dec 22 2009 3:30 PM

I apologyze for asking again but I am curious, Mark, if and how you use clippings and notes for the exegesis of your passage.  For example, do you use clippings/notes to save lexical information about  a word?  If a note, to what do you attach it.  OR do you just do the exegetical work without saving or writing any notes on the information.

Thanks for any insight you can give,

Bruce

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Mark Barnes | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Dec 22 2009 3:50 PM

Bruce,

At the level of individual words I rarely take notes. I do so normally only in three circumstances:

  1. When the meaning of a passage hangs on a particular translation. I did, for example, take some clippings on parthenos in this particular sermon.
  2. When there's a word which doesn't translate easily into English, or when the English word is hard to understand. I'll want to define the word from the congregation, and I'll do so from a Greek lexicon, not an English dictionary. I'd probably add this information to a general note on the pericope.
  3. When the word is translated poorly in English Bibles and that matters. In this case, I'll probably re-translate the whole verse and attach that has a note.

Generally my congregation don't care too much about Greek/Hebrew, and nor should they. Neither do I want to undermine their confidence in the Bible they carry in their hands. So I try to wear my new-found knowledge lightly, letting it inform my thinking, but not feeling the need to parade it before them. As a consequence I don't need to take that many notes, as I'm not going to quote them. More importantly, what I'm learning is shaping my understanding, and my understanding is more important than my knowledge in this situation. In other words, what I learn changes the way I view a passage, which changes the way I preach a passage, which affects my congregations understanding of that passage. Which means I can change their understanding without needing to share all my learning.

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