Bug: reversed English text when comparing with BHS

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Tim Sikkema | Forum Activity | Posted: Tue, Jan 7 2014 10:48 PM

When I have BHS (SESB 2.0) open and do a text comparison with F7, the English texts I am comparing with show up written right-to-left. Not that I would ever see the use of doing such a Hebrew-English comparison, but it looks buggy none the less. When comparing with BHW 4.18 or BHS/WIVU as the base text, I don't have this issue.

I vaguely recall having had a similar issue a few weeks ago, with English text getting reversed next to Hebrew text. I think maybe after copying and pasting into a Logos note or into Word, but can't be sure about that anymore. 

Running Logos 5.2 SR-3 on Mac OS X 10.8.5. 

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Dave Hooton | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jan 8 2014 1:24 PM

I can't reproduce this with my Hebrew bibles as base text, but I don't have SESB. Does it happen if you exclude Buk Baibel?

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Anon | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jan 8 2014 1:38 PM

don't have "Buk Baibel" for text comparison; however, SESB 2.0, ESV, NIV84, and NET works as expected when using F7

 

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Dave Hooton | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jan 8 2014 5:54 PM

Anon:

don't have "Buk Baibel" for text comparison; however, SESB 2.0, ESV, NIV84, and NET works as expected when using F7

See if this is confirmed by OP.

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Tim Sikkema | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jan 10 2014 3:00 PM

Buk Baibel is a PBB Bible (Tok Pisin). Removing it does not help.

I believe there are two resources called BHS SESB 2.0. I don't remember what the difference is, although I think it has been discussed somewhere on this forum. I have hidden one of them – but maybe I hid the wrong one? I'll see what happens if I un-hide the other one. 

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fgh | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jan 10 2014 6:13 PM

Tim Sikkema:
I believe there are two resources called BHS SESB 2.0. I don't remember what the difference is, although I think it has been discussed somewhere on this forum.

If someone remembers the thread, could you please point me to it? I've wondered as well since I got the SESB package some months ago.

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Anon | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jan 10 2014 7:05 PM

fgh:
If someone remembers the thread, could you please point me to it? I've wondered as well since I got the SESB package some months ago.

hope this will help:  Big Smile  here here here (3 threads)

 

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fgh | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jan 10 2014 8:49 PM

Anon:
hope this will help:  Big Smile

Thanks!

Anon:
here here here (3 threads)

Actually, the first two are the same.Wink

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Anon | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jan 10 2014 9:02 PM

fgh:

Anon:
hope this will help:  Big Smile

Thanks!

Great!!!

fgh:

Anon:
here here here (3 threads)

Actually, the first two are the same.Wink

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Jeremy Sanders | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, May 11 2014 9:20 PM

Any chance I can get a copy of your tok pisin bible? I sent you a message on FB but it might end up in the other or spam folder since we aren't connected.

Thanks

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Tim Sikkema | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, May 11 2014 9:32 PM

Jeremy Sanders:

Any chance I can get a copy of your tok pisin bible? I sent you a message on FB but it might end up in the other or spam folder since we aren't connected.

Thanks

I'll email you.

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Stephen Miller | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, May 11 2014 9:54 PM

Tim,

I need to thank you for 2 things.

1. I note in your screen shot that in the F7 box the Hebrew font is the same as in the resource box. This was not so with me. I have been using SBL BibLit since it provides both Hebrew and Greek. However in the F7 box I have the very inferior Arial-type Hebrew font.

I swapped around a few Hebrew fonts, restarted L5 and now I have SBL Hebrew in both the resource and the F7 box. Thanks for that.

2. Thanks for indirectly telling us that Dave Hooton does not have SESB BHS. I am not quite sure what this means but it just feels good to know.

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Dave Hooton | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, May 11 2014 11:33 PM

Stephen Miller:
2. Thanks for indirectly telling us that Dave Hooton does not have SESB BHS. I am not quite sure what this means but it just feels good to know.

I suppose it was indirectly brought about by Tim that I finally admitted to not having the SESBBig Smile

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Stephen Miller | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, May 12 2014 2:14 AM

Now that I have the proper Hebrew font (not Arial) in the F7 box, I thought I would try the same correction with Greek.

However, I still get Arial Greek in the F7 box?

Does anyone have the selected Greek font in the F7 box?

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Tim Sikkema | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, May 12 2014 2:42 AM

I get a somewhat different font in Greek, but it's only slightly different, not Arial.

How would you go about changing those fonts anyway? I don't see that anywhere in Program Settings. And, getting a bit off topic, but maybe you would know the answer as well - is there a way to change the fonts for printing? It seems that whenever I print notes in "default" font (a serif font) they are printed in something san serif like Arial.

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Stephen Miller | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, May 12 2014 3:10 AM

Tim,

You are obviously good at screen shots. Can you screen shot your Greek F7 box?

Thx.

As for the printing. The Logos 5 resources default font is Skolar, which comes with Logos 5. You do not own it separately. It can only be used in Logos 5.

When you print, if you copy/paste to Word the font used will be the default font in Word, or a common Windows font such as Times New Roman.

If you print directly into Windows, Windows will find a font you actually own.

One way around this is to print directly to a pdf program eg pdfFactory Pro. This prints the Skolar font as on the Logos 5 screen.

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Tim Sikkema | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, May 12 2014 3:55 AM

Stephen, here's the requested screenshot. I have Palatino Linotype as my default Greek font.

As for printing, I'm going to assume that my Mac is acting the same as Windows (a dangerous assumption maybe?). What bothers me even more than font is font size. Although I normally have my notes at about size 10, they print at about 14 or more. I end up printing to PDF and then printing to my printer as a booklet so it doesn't look like a childish size. But it's an extra step I'd prefer not to have to take. 

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Stephen Miller | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, May 12 2014 5:12 AM

Thank you,

Excellent. As you said, you do not have the poor Arial Greek font in the F7 box.

So why do I?

Will look at it more tomorrow.

Stephen

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Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :) | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, May 12 2014 5:52 AM

Tim Sikkema:
Running Logos 5.2 SR-3 on Mac OS X 10.8.5. 

Replicated using Logos 5.2a SR-3 on OS X 10.8.5 with both versions of BHS SESB 2.0

Added Feature Parity reference to this thread => http://wiki.logos.com/Mac_and_PC_User_Interface_Differences#Feature_Parity

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Thomas Ball | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, May 12 2014 10:36 AM

Tim Sikkema:
but it looks buggy none the less. When comparing with BHW 4.18 or BHS/WIVU as the base text, I don't have this issue.

I can replicate this and will report it to development.

 

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