ios app should have a dim brightness feature similar to the Kindle app

The kindle brightness feature allows you to decrease the brightness to even less than the minimum of the ios device. I like to read with the sepia background. When reading in bed in the dark I'm able to reduce the brightness in the kindle app to a setting which is lower than the ios device which makes it easier on my eyes.

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Mark Smith

In iOS 7 you can swipe up from the bottom of the iPad screen with one finger and adjust the brightness setting from the panel that pops up. That will take you to as little light as the iPad will give you. If that is too bright you need to take your suggestion to Apple. Logos has no control beyond that.

Todd Phillips

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/560386#Comment_560386

In iOS 7 you can swipe up from the bottom of the iPad screen with one finger and adjust the brightness setting from the panel that pops up. That will take you to as little light as the iPad will give you. If that is too bright you need to take your suggestion to Apple. Logos has no control beyond that.

What the Kindle brightness control does is twofold, first it lowers the backlight brightness (like you can on the iOS panel), then, when the backlight is at the lowest, it starts to lower the individual pixel values (so that white becomes grey, sepia becomes brown, etc), effectively making it seem much darker and easier on the eyes than what is accomplished with only setting the backlight to the minimum.

I think it's a great system, and I assume that Logos could do it if they deemed it useful.

Xegesis

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/560390#Comment_560390

Todd thank you, that is exactly what I believe logos could easily implement into their app. I'm surprised more developers like those at twitter don't include that feature.

Paul-C

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/560390#Comment_560390

I'd like to see this feature too as when I read in the dark, I often wish the brightness of the screen was a touch lower - even after I've set the iOS brightness setting to its minimum.

I like the fact that the Kindle iOS app can darken the screen even past IOS' lowest setting!

Mark Smith

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/560592#Comment_560592

I'd like to see this feature too as when I read in the dark, I often wish the brightness of the screen was a touch lower - even after I've set the iOS brightness setting to its minimum.

I like the fact that the Kindle iOS app can darken the screen even past IOS' lowest setting!

The question I'd have is whether this is possible in iOS. Does iOS give a programmer the tools to do this? I'm no programmer so don't know. It seems from what you are saying it is a system-level feature in the Kindle.

EDIT: Re-reading I see you are referring to the iOS Kindle app when all along I thought it was the Kindle itself you were referring to. Very different. You can tell I don't read in bed at night with the light out, and don't even read well with the light on. [;)]

Bev N

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/560665#Comment_560665

Is the brightness control that you are speaking of different than the brightness control in the Logos App when you touch the "A" on the right side of the open Bible! app pane?

Liam

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/560592#Comment_560592

I'd like to see this feature too as when I read in the dark, I often wish the brightness of the screen was a touch lower - even after I've set the iOS brightness setting to its minimum.

I like the fact that the Kindle iOS app can darken the screen even past IOS' lowest setting!

Totally Agree!!!

Xegesis

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/562019#Comment_562019

Hi Bev, that brightness control just controls the iOS brightness. There needs to be a separate brightness control that darkens the background further. Download the kindle app and play with them side by side and you will be able to see the difference, especially in the dark when the iOS brightness is at its lowest setting.

DMB

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/562029#Comment_562029

Well, I decided to take Xegesis up on the lighting 'taste test'. For the experiment, I turned off the livingroom light, left the TV on, plus the fake fireplace.

Then I put the Kindle Paperwhite at its lowest lighting plus the iOS at its lowest lighting along with Logos at its lowest lighting. Then I took a picture (while listening to my spouse wondering 'heh ... what's going on??').

Below is the result. Now, granted, this was a totally unfair test using the Paperwhite; maybe the iOS just couldn't get dark at all? So I instead compared the Kindle version on iOS with the Logos one. That bombed out. First, the picture looked like only one was on, plus my marriage was nearing its eminent termination.

Now, ignoring Todd's more intelligent explanation, I notice OliveTree's minimum is similar to Logos iOS. Accordance was a hair darker (but has a night-mode switch). Laridian is also similar to Logos. Obviously the market for Bible software is not a nighttime one?

David Medina

Not sure if I understand the request, but in my iPad both the kindle app as well as the logos app has the exact same brightness control and effect.

DMB

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/562045#Comment_562045

David ... we must be living on opposite sides of the universe. I put the Logos at its lowest setting and then the Kindle at its lowest setting (both iOS). I really have trouble making out the Kindle's screen absent turning the TV off (along with the lights). The Logos is a regular beacon great for using as a flashlight to take the trash out (or cross the universe, depending).

Now I do notice, if my iOS is not at its lowest setting, and I move the Logos to its lowest setting, Logos (in broad firelight) will INCREASE the light setting back to the iOS level. I wonder who thought that up? (Or indeed, I do live on the opposite side of the universe.)

Xegesis

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/562045#Comment_562045

Here is a kindle screenshot on an iPad air running iOS 7. Notice how the system brightness on the bottom is all the way left while the kindle brightness is not.

JT (alabama24)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/562045#Comment_562045

Not sure if I understand the request, but in my iPad both the kindle app as well as the logos app has the exact same brightness control and effect.

The Logos brightness controls are tied to the iOS settings... the Kindle brightness controls are independent of the iOS settings.

Paul-C

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/562050#Comment_562050

Another comparison:

Here's the Logos iOS app with iOS set to lowest brightness:

And the kindle iOS app with the iOS brightness set to minimum AND the in-app kindle brightness set to minimum:

Spot the difference! [:D]

Simon’s Brother

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/562065#Comment_562065

One resource has much better tagging than the other?

DMB

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/562070#Comment_562070

Looks to me like the highlighting is the issue. Especially the 'Me' part.

Bev N

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/562075#Comment_562075

Mine is much darker to the point it is difficult to read. If I take a screen shot the photo makes it lighter otherwise I would post screen shot. I'm using iPad4 iOS7

Bev N

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/562049#Comment_562049

Xegesis, are the bottom controls on the screen specific to iPad Air?

I opened my Kindle App on iPad4 iOS7, but the bottom controls do not appear.

Paul-C

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/562306#Comment_562306

Xegesis, are the bottom controls on the screen specific to iPad Air?

Not Xegesis, but those controls are part of iOS 7 - you swipe up from bottom of screen to access them.

DMB

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/562306#Comment_562306

Bev ... I think they're specific to iOS7 (flipping the panel up with your finger). I'm on an older iPad mini and see the same panel.

But, not to disagree with the OP per se, but I suspect (and don't know) that Kindle's inability to quickly switch screens between apps, is due to its non-standard screen handling. When I'm reading a Bible related book and have to switch to another app to make notes, coming back is a pain.

If Logos had to do the same, then I'd vote for the present approach, but allow the setting to be different from the iOS setting (instead of automatically moving up just after the user moved it down).

Bev N

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/562307#Comment_562307

Thank you, but I already tried that. Do I need to change something in Settings? Thanks again.

I did find this, but my Settings are showing Green.

You can quickly and easily access the control panel, or Control Centre as it's officially know, by sliding up from the bottom of your iPad or iPhone's display. From here, whether your iPhone is locked or unlocked, you can turn on/off Airplane more, WiFi, Bluetooth or Do Not Disturb.

Additionally, the Control Centre gives you access to brightness controls, music controls, the new torch feature, the timer, calculator and camera. You can also turn on or off screen rotation.

Bev N

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/562325#Comment_562325

I googled it (see below in case someone else has this problem) and found out it is my iPad case that is preventing it from appearing.

I had trouble accessing the control center on my IPad 2 while swiping up from the bottom. After several attempts, I found that if I swiped up from the home button brought it up. I have a portfolio case which overs part of the bezel. If the bezel was not covered up, you can swipe from ANYWHERE on the bezel. Now I know.

DMB

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/562336#Comment_562336

Thanks, Bev for that little tidbit. I have the opposite problem where swiping up and art drawing get mixed up all across the bezel.

Dave Dunkin (Logos)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/562070#Comment_562070

One resource has much better tagging than the other?

Where's the Like button on this forum?!

We'll take extra screen dimming as a feature request and look into it.

Liam

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/562748#Comment_562748

Awesome! Thanks Dave!

Todd Phillips

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/560390#Comment_560390

What the Kindle brightness control does is twofold, first it lowers the backlight brightness (like you can on the iOS panel), then, when the backlight is at the lowest, it starts to lower the individual pixel values (so that white becomes grey, sepia becomes brown, etc), effectively making it seem much darker and easier on the eyes than what is accomplished with only setting the backlight to the minimum.

Just to update this description: The Kindle app brightness control doesn't affect the system back-light brightness at all any more. (I believe that it used to, but has changed in recent updates). It only affects the text brightness via pixel values. This change was probably made since the iOS brightness control is easier to access than it used to be. I think the Logos app should work the same way for this reason.

spiritbear0

If you find the minimum brightness still too bright for NIGHTTIME reading - Apple has finally added a screen filter in ios 8. Typically android offered a way to reduce the minimum brightness via apps when the screen was still too bright for nighttime reading even when set to zero - but now you can enable this in ios:

1) go to settings, general, accessibility - zoom

2) enable zoom

3) tap 3 fingers on the screen to bring up zoom options

4) choose: choose filter - low light

5) go back to settings , general, accessibility, zoom - choose zoom region: change to full screen

6) turn zoom off

7) go to settings, general , accessibility

8) set the last option - accessibility shortcut: zoom

Now when you push your home button 3x quickly it will dim the entire screen for nighttime reading.

JT (alabama24)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/642793#Comment_642793

Thanks Karim... and welcome to the forums. [:)]

Liam

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/642793#Comment_642793

Apple has finally added a screen filter in ios 8.

Great news! Thanks Karim!