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Graham Criddle | Forum Activity | Posted: Wed, Feb 5 2014 1:29 AM

After adding a tag to a resource the tag editor is left in the state shown below (5.2a Beta 3 on Windows 8.1)

From this point it is easy to add additional tags but it isn't clear how one is supposed to exit the editor and to commit the changes.

My initial assumption was that pressing the enter key again would complete this but it doesn't

I have found that left-clicking the mouse outside of the edit box completes the action as does pressing the Escape key.

From a design perspective how is one supposed to complete the process of adding tags?

Thanks, Graham 

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Dylan Rondeau | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Feb 5 2014 8:15 AM

From what I know, you found the design exactly. Clicking to remove focus from the edit box, or hitting the Escape key, "ends" Edit mode and completes the process.

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Graham Criddle | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Feb 5 2014 9:42 AM

Thanks Dylan

Can I suggest that these are not particularly intuitive and that adding another option - that of pressing the Enter key against a blank edit field would also complete the process?

That way I just need to press Enter to complete entering a tag (multiple times for multiple tag) and then press Enter again to complete.

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Jacob Hantla | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Feb 5 2014 10:30 AM

Graham Criddle:

Thanks Dylan

Can I suggest that these are not particularly intuitive and that adding another option - that of pressing the Enter key against a blank edit field would also complete the process?

That way I just need to press Enter to complete entering a tag (multiple times for multiple tag) and then press Enter again to complete.

Graham 

Agreed

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Denise | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Feb 5 2014 10:42 AM

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Dave Hooton | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Feb 5 2014 2:12 PM

Graham Criddle:
press Enter to complete entering a tag (multiple times for multiple tag) and then press Enter again to complete.

That would assist people transitioning from the current tag editor i.e. consistency.

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fgh | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Feb 6 2014 9:30 AM

Graham Criddle:
Can I suggest that these are not particularly intuitive and that adding another option - that of pressing the Enter key against a blank edit field would also complete the process?

Yes

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Jack Caviness | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Feb 6 2014 2:16 PM

fgh:

Graham Criddle:
Can I suggest that these are not particularly intuitive and that adding another option - that of pressing the Enter key against a blank edit field would also complete the process?

Yes

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Angela Murashov | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Feb 12 2014 11:31 AM

Graham Criddle:
that of pressing the Enter key against a blank edit field would also complete the process?

This should be fixed in 5.2a Beta 4.    

Pressing Enter a second time (when tag text field is empty) closes the tag editor.

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Jack Caviness | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Feb 12 2014 3:58 PM

Angela Murashov:

This should be fixed in 5.2a Beta 4.    

Pressing Enter a second time (when tag text field is empty) closes the tag editor.

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Graham Criddle | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Feb 12 2014 11:11 PM

Angela Murashov:

Graham Criddle:
that of pressing the Enter key against a blank edit field would also complete the process?

This should be fixed in 5.2a Beta 4.    

Pressing Enter a second time (when tag text field is empty) closes the tag editor.

Thank you

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fgh | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Apr 8 2014 3:06 PM

Angela Murashov:
Pressing Enter a second time (when tag text field is empty) closes the tag editor.

I'm afraid you just reintroduced this bug with SR 1. I can no longer close the tag editor with either Enter, Return, or clicking outside.Sad

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Dylan Rondeau | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Apr 8 2014 3:27 PM

fgh:

Angela Murashov:
Pressing Enter a second time (when tag text field is empty) closes the tag editor.

I'm afraid you just reintroduced this bug with SR 1. I can no longer close the tag editor with either Enter, Return, or clicking outside.Sad

I'm not sure what you mean. After this issue was fixed, the design was changed so that tags always display the pod. This change was made in Beta 5, and hasn't changed between 5.2a and SR 1. 

See this thread: http://community.logos.com/forums/t/81689.aspx

Unless I'm misunderstanding?

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fgh | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Apr 8 2014 3:58 PM

Perhaps I chose the wrong thread to attach it to, but I mean that I can't easily get from   to . I am fairly certain that Return did that for me a couple of hours ago. Just as a Return in the Title, Short Title or Set Series fields still closes those fields. But of course it is rather later over here so I could be dreaming, but I don't think so.

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Graham Criddle | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Apr 8 2014 11:45 PM

fgh:
can't easily get from   to 

On Windows I can no longer get the first of these options at all. As per the link Dylan points to the "Add tag" option is always there

I admit I didn't notice it in beta 5.

I like that it makes adding multiple tags easier but do think it would be "tidier" if this were "closed" when just looking at the tags as opposed to trying to edit them.

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Jack Caviness | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Apr 9 2014 2:15 AM

Graham Criddle:
but do think it would be "tidier" if this were "closed" when just looking at the tags

Not to mention the opportunity to introduce unwanted tags. If I wanted to include multiple tags, I would not hit Escape As it is, Escape will not get me out of the Edit mode. IMO, this is a very poor design choice.

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fgh | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Apr 9 2014 12:28 PM

Graham Criddle:

fgh:
can't easily get from   to 

On Windows I can no longer get the first of these options at all.

??  You don't see a cursor after entering a tag, or when selecting a resource and clicking in the tag editor to add more tags? How, then, do you know if the box is active or not?

Graham Criddle:
As per the link Dylan points to the "Add tag" option is always there (...)

I like that it makes adding multiple tags easier but do think it would be "tidier" if this were "closed" when just looking at the tags as opposed to trying to edit them.

I don't really understand Dylan's link, perhaps because I wasn't at beta at that point and didn't see the multiple versions in real life. I'm also having a hard time understanding what it looks like for you.

I have no problem entering multiple tags, but for me the second screenshot is the closed version, while the first is the active one. And on 5.2a I could hit Return or Enter an extra time and get from active to closed. Now I have to click in the Title, Short Title, or Set Series field to close it, and then hit Return from there to close that field. Or select another resource. Or click in another panel.

As Jack says, an active tag editor when I'm not focused on tagging would be a real nuisance. What if I leave the computer, come back, and start typing, believing the focus to be a note file or something? Given my bad habit of looking at the keyboard instead of the screen, I could do quite a bit of damage before I realized something was wrong.

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Graham Criddle | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Apr 9 2014 1:49 PM

fgh:
??  You don't see a cursor after entering a tag, or when selecting a resource and clicking in the tag editor to add more tags? How, then, do you know if the box is active or not?

Sorry - I should have been clearer

I never see a clear box - the "Add tag" is always there.

The screenshot is just after selecting a resource, if I click in the edit box I get a cursor there

fgh:
And on 5.2a I could hit Return or Enter an extra time and get from active to closed.

Yes, I got the same

fgh:
Now I have to click in the Title, Short Title, or Set Series field to close it, and then hit Return from there to close that field.

I think the purpose of Dylan's link it to explain that there is no need to "close" the box as the edit action is applied immediately. 

fgh:
As Jack says, an active tag editor when I'm not focused on tagging would be a real nuisance.

Agreed entirely - hence my comment above.

Sorry for any confusion - and I'm not sure I will have totally removed it hereSmile

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