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Charles C.G. Miller | Forum Activity | Posted: Thu, Feb 6 2014 11:09 PM

Which version of the Bible is used for quotes and comments in the FaithLife Study Bible's notes?

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Graham Criddle | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Feb 6 2014 11:37 PM

Charles C.G. Miller:

Which version of the Bible is used for quotes and comments in the FaithLife Study Bible's notes?

I'm not sure if there is a particular base.

Links to Bible references will go to your preferred Bible and the comment headings track the Bible you are using - assuming it is a reverse interlinear

This is shown in the two screenshots below - one using the NKJV and the other using the ESV

As you can see the section headings in the FSB track the words in the selected Bible - see "darkness did not comprehend it" / "darkness did not overcome it" in verse 5.

But not sure I'm answering the question you're asking. If not please clarify

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Feb 7 2014 12:31 AM

It's based on the Lexham English Bible, I believe

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NB.Mick | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Feb 7 2014 1:10 AM


Charles C.G. Miller:

Which version of the Bible is used for quotes and comments in the FaithLife Study Bible's notes?

Adding to my two fellow MVPs: The FSB comes with the free Lexham English Bible and this is the default. However, the FSB has the unique feature that the quotes and comments dynamically reflect your highest prioritized bible - this works for a number of well-known translations.

The list is here: https://faithlifebible.com/features (translations should be the first feature to come up)

 

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Graham Criddle | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Feb 7 2014 1:17 AM

Thanks Mick

A much better explanation of what I was trying to saySmile

Graham

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NB.Mick | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Feb 7 2014 1:24 AM

Graham Criddle:

Thanks Mick

A much better explanation of what I was trying to saySmile

Graham

But your screenshots showed it. My experience is: Since this is a unique feature, it's difficult to explain to people with words only. Seeing it is much better. I wouldn't have posted unless to take out the perceived discrepancy and to add the link to the list. 

 

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Doug Mangum | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Feb 7 2014 12:25 PM

In FSB, the fragment text is dynamic (that is, the what phrase are we commenting on part). In the notes themselves, any translation or reference to a word or phrase from the verse is most likely LEB or the author's rendering. But we tried to avoid quoting much in the notes. For anything other than a word or short phrase that could be given a quick, generic gloss, we would just include the Bible reference. That way the passage appears as a popup if you want it.

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Milford Charles Murray | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Feb 7 2014 1:46 PM

Thanks to all of you!                     Great Thread!

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Charles C.G. Miller | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Feb 9 2014 12:09 PM

This seems to answer the question I intended to ask.

The first Faithlife Study Bible entry for Genesis 1: 2 reads:

1:2 formless and empty The terms tohu and bohu describe material substance lacking boundary, order, and definition. These deficiencies are remedied by God’s activity in the verses that follow.

The verse in my default Bible (English Standard Version) reads:

The earth was bwithout form and void, and darkness was over the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God was hovering over the face of the waters.

What I understand from your response is that the words "formless and empty" are written by the author of this section of the Faithlife Study Bible, and may be the author's own translation or if not, most likely come from the Lexham English Bible. Please let me know if I am incorrect.

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NB.Mick | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Feb 9 2014 1:07 PM

Charles C.G. Miller:

This seems to answer the question I intended to ask.

The first Faithlife Study Bible entry for Genesis 1: 2 reads:

1:2 formless and empty The terms tohu and bohu describe material substance lacking boundary, order, and definition. These deficiencies are remedied by God’s activity in the verses that follow.

The verse in my default Bible (English Standard Version) reads:

The earth was bwithout form and void, and darkness was over the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God was hovering over the face of the waters.

What I understand from your response is that the words "formless and empty" are written by the author of this section of the Faithlife Study Bible, and may be the author's own translation or if not, most likely come from the Lexham English Bible. Please let me know if I am incorrect.

No. "Formless and empty" comes up in a number of translations, including LEB. It may be so in your case. But if you choose ESV for FSB display, this part of the text reads differently:

 

You may even toggle between bibles, see the red square in my screenshot.

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Doug Mangum | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Feb 10 2014 10:18 AM

N.B.Mick is right. If you switch FSB to display ESV fragment text, then it should match what the ESV has for the phrase. The bold text at the head of each note is the dynamic text that changes with whatever version you have FSB set to show. In the non-bold note text, it could be author's translation or LEB but I forgot that the other way we dealt with that issue was through transliteration of the original. So the note on Gen 1:2 says "tohu and bohu."

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NB.Mick | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Feb 24 2014 2:35 PM

Doug Mangum:
The bold text at the head of each note is the dynamic text that changes with whatever version you have FSB set to show.

Reviving this thread after two weeks: I'm in the process of adding some community notes to group FSB Users, predominantly in the Gospel of John (I intend to do some more), in order to help facilitating improvements in future editions. I came accross one textual instance where the editors weren't really aware of how this feature plays out. Check out John 1:34, look at the last words of the verse and use various translations.   

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Doug Mangum | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Feb 24 2014 5:01 PM

NB.Mick, you're right. In making the notes we had LEB in front of us and consulted SBLGNT for Greek issues. This note should be tweaked to account for the variations in English versions and explain the variant in more detail. I'll add it to my review list.

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Stephen Charles | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jun 21 2014 8:24 PM

I have lost the ability to toggle different Bible versions. The menu has disappeared. Is this just me, or has Logos removed the feature?

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Steve Charles:

I have lost the ability to toggle different Bible versions. The menu has disappeared. Is this just me, or has Logos removed the feature?

Can you provide a screenshot of the problem?

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Graham Criddle | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jun 21 2014 11:27 PM

Bradley Grainger (Logos):

Steve Charles:

I have lost the ability to toggle different Bible versions. The menu has disappeared. Is this just me, or has Logos removed the feature?

Can you provide a screenshot of the problem?

I see the same thing - here's a screenshot

The text now seems tied to the LEB with no option to change it.

The same is true in the iPad app - the FSB text doesn't track the selected Bible (which I am fairly sure it used to)

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Thanks, I've filed a bug report.

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Graham Criddle | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Jun 22 2014 7:03 AM

Thanks Bradley

Appreciated, Graham

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Stephen Charles | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Jun 22 2014 10:34 AM

Thank you!

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NB.Mick | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jun 26 2014 11:37 AM

Bradley Grainger (Logos):

Thanks, I've filed a bug report.

This has been fixed with a new download today - Thanks!

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