No Volume Number Given in Citation of AYBD

Randall Cue
Randall Cue Member Posts: 676 ✭✭
edited November 20 in English Forum

Does anyone know why no volume number is given when citing the AYBD? Is there any plans to change that fact? Thanks.

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  • Randall Cue
    Randall Cue Member Posts: 676 ✭✭

    This is also true for the ISBE. Is this the pattern in all multivolume works?

  • Sarel Slabbert
    Sarel Slabbert Member Posts: 544 ✭✭

    I also noticed that some Citation Styles in Logos do not offer Volume numbers for Multi volume works. It is a real pain when trying to cite works. All is not lost.  If you change the citation style under Program Settings you could perhaps find one that will give you the info you need. Although, most of the citation styles that do offer the volume number is not really usable in a Word Document (RIS Style being one example). Here is a list of the styles that do show the volume number (in one way or the other):

    BibTex

    DIN 1505

    Harvard

    Refer/BibIX

    RIS

    You should play around until you find one that does work for you.

  • Deacon Steve
    Deacon Steve Member Posts: 1,609

    This is speculation on my part, but I would guess that when you have a resource that is solely organized in alphabetical order there is no need for a volume number.  One looking for the reference in a hard copy would simply go to the appropriate volume ... A-C, D-G, H-J, etc.

  • George Somsel
    George Somsel Member Posts: 10,153 ✭✭✭

    Steve said:

    This is speculation on my part, but I would guess that when you have a resource that is solely organized in alphabetical order there is no need for a volume number.  One looking for the reference in a hard copy would simply go to the appropriate volume ... A-C, D-G, H-J, etc.

    Enough of that, Mr Spock.  Quit being so logical !  [;)]

    george
    gfsomsel

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  • NB.Mick
    NB.Mick MVP Posts: 15,972

    Steve said:

    This is speculation on my part, but I would guess that when you have a resource that is solely organized in alphabetical order there is no need for a volume number.  One looking for the reference in a hard copy would simply go to the appropriate volume ... A-C, D-G, H-J, etc.

    yeah, but in this case there's no need for a page number either.

    Giving 'page 160' without telling it's p. 160 in Vol 3 is the bug. (well some books will simply continue the pagination, many journals do that, too) 

    Have joy in the Lord! Smile

  • Lee
    Lee Member Posts: 2,714

    No logic is involved. It's all up to the citation style / house style.

    Some citation styles are just tedious, still one needs to follow them without question

  • Deacon Steve
    Deacon Steve Member Posts: 1,609

    NB.Mick said:

    Steve said:

    This is speculation on my part, but I would guess that when you have a resource that is solely organized in alphabetical order there is no need for a volume number.  One looking for the reference in a hard copy would simply go to the appropriate volume ... A-C, D-G, H-J, etc.

    yeah, but in this case there's no need for a page number either.

    Giving 'page 160' without telling it's p. 160 in Vol 3 is the bug. (well some books will simply continue the pagination, many journals do that, too) 

    Good point.  Thanks for that clarification.

  • Tom Philpot (Faithlife)
    Tom Philpot (Faithlife) Member, Logos Employee Posts: 1,913

    Does anyone know why no volume number is given when citing the AYBD? Is there any plans to change that fact? Thanks.

    Randall,

    What style are you using? APA 6th edition is the default for Logos 5 and I can confirm that for AYBD there is no volume listed. We just need to update the APA style we're shipping to fix that. I'll file a case to review all the styles with AYBD and make sure it's included where necessary.

    Mobile Development Team Lead

  • NB.Mick
    NB.Mick MVP Posts: 15,972

    Does anyone know why no volume number is given when citing the AYBD? Is there any plans to change that fact? Thanks.

    Randall,

    What style are you using? APA 6th edition is the default for Logos 5 and I can confirm that for AYBD there is no volume listed. We just need to update the APA style we're shipping to fix that. I'll file a case to review all the styles with AYBD and make sure it's included where necessary.

    Tom,

    you may find that the missing volume runs accross various styles shipped by Logos, as indicated by Sarel above. And it seemed to me he's right when I tried citations from ISBE Rev. Ed (5 Vols).

    That said, when you are checking APA 6th edition, there's another bug that makes this style show two dots/periods in the citation. This seems to be unique to APA style. You can see this here in another thread where the GNT in Byzantine Textform is shown. 

    Have joy in the Lord! Smile

  • Mark Barnes
    Mark Barnes Member Posts: 15,432 ✭✭✭

    I'll file a case to review all the styles with AYBD and make sure it's included where necessary.

    It's required for the SBL style, too. See this thread.

    This is my personal Faithlife account. On 1 March 2022, I started working for Faithlife, and have a new 'official' user account. Posts on this account shouldn't be taken as official Faithlife views!

  • Randall Cue
    Randall Cue Member Posts: 676 ✭✭

    Hi Tom,

    I'm using Turabian. Thanks for looking into this. ISBE also is missing volume numbers when cited using this style.