Master Journal Bundle (1001 vols.) No Dynamic Pricing

This new product indicates dynamic pricing. I have most of the journals. It's the same price logged in or out. $499.95.
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Was about to report the same thing.
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Looks like it was just posted. I assume that Logos will correct the issue shortly. Excited for this!
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I have the same price you do Michael and I have Theological Libraries 1-15 plus other journals.
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Princeton Theological Review - hot cha cha! I went ahead and ordered ... they'll get the dynamic pricing problem sorted out soon enough.
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Also notice the number of volumes under product details
- Title: Church and Academic Journal Bundle
- Volumes: 997
- Resource Type: Journals
- Topic: Biblical Studies, Theology
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Looks like Logos was unable to get the rights to many of the Galaxie published journals. Not having JETS is huge. Missing The Journal for Biblical Manhood and Womanhood, Tyndale Bulletin, and WTJ which I also want. Some nice additions, but no JETS. Not good. I hope the door isn't completely closed.
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I am sure this will be fixed in a day or two. I also have no dynamic pricing.
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Might be worth pre-ordering now as sometimes negotiations are not quite finished and additions get made
(with a price increase only for those who have not yet ordered...)Quite a few in this bundle that Galaxie never had...
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Mark Smith said:
Looks like Logos was unable to get the rights to many of the Galaxie published journals. Not having JETS is huge. Missing The Journal for Biblical Manhood and Womanhood, Tyndale Bulletin, and WTJ which I also want. Some nice additions, but no JETS. Not good. I hope the door isn't completely closed.
I was thinking the same thing. I have the editions from the Galaxie bundle, but would enjoy an update. Not good.
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In the meantime, you could spend any time you would have spent reading JBMW combing through the (newly added?) Priscilla Papers.
Nice inclusions, too, of JBL, Semeia, and Themelios.
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Is there a way to know what journals would be new to me in this bundle?
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Ronald Quick said:
Is there a way to know what journals would be new to me in this bundle?
Yes. Contact a Sales Rep and ask for a "new to me" report.
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Abram K-J said:
the (newly added?) Priscilla Papers.
The Priscilla Papers have been in the Galaxie bundles for some time (I have volumes 1-25). Since it looks like I can keep up to date with those, I am disappointed that it seems I won't be able to keep up with the complementarian viewpoint.
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Michael Lasley said:
This new product indicates dynamic pricing. I have most of the journals. It's the same price logged in or out. $499.95.
Sorry about that. We're not sure what's going on. We'll get it resolved as soon as we can and notify you when it's working.
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Mark Smith said:
Looks like Logos was unable to get the rights to many of the Galaxie published journals. Not having JETS is huge. Missing The Journal for Biblical Manhood and Womanhood, Tyndale Bulletin, and WTJ which I also want. Some nice additions, but no JETS. Not good. I hope the door isn't completely closed.
Many of these are coming, but we didn't want to hold up the collection any longer. You've all been waiting long enough! We'll release updated versions of this collection as we get new batches of journals licensed.
Galaxie has 800 journals in their latest offering, and we already have more than 1,000. We have a lot more planned, and we'll likely be adding hundreds of additional volumes a year.
We're also rebuilding all of these to take advantage of our latest tagging standards. We're exploring some cool new tooling for journals too. I think you'll really like everything we have in the works for journals.
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Ronald Quick said:
Is there a way to know what journals would be new to me in this bundle?
We're working on a solution for this for all collection product pages. No ETA yet. In the meantime, our sales team has a tool that can generate a list for you.
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In the past the dynamic pricing did not come into account until the product went live. There was no dynamic pricing in prepub.
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Matt Hamrick said:
In the past the dynamic pricing did not come into account until the product went live. There was no dynamic pricing in prepub.
Logos developed and prefected the technique in the first half of this year.
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Phil Gons said:Mark Smith said:
Looks like Logos was unable to get the rights to many of the Galaxie published journals. Not having JETS is huge. Missing The Journal for Biblical Manhood and Womanhood, Tyndale Bulletin, and WTJ which I also want. Some nice additions, but no JETS. Not good. I hope the door isn't completely closed.
Many of these are coming, but we didn't want to hold up the collection any longer. You've all been waiting long enough! We'll release updated versions of this collection as we get new batches of journals licensed.
Good. Thanks for explaining what is happening. We are glad to see progress.
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Bridgeport, CT USA
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Yes indeed
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I currently have volumes 1-15. Does anyone know how big a difference Dynamic Pricing would have on this Bundle?
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Sarel Slabbert said:
I currently have volumes 1-15. Does anyone know how big a difference Dynamic Pricing would have on this Bundle?
Sounds like you might own about half of this collection, give or take a bit. I'd guess you'd be looking at a 40–50% discount.
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I only own about 103 of them... and it's dropped down to just over $400, seems about right. Although not likely going to get it myself. But thought I would say that Dynamic seems working to me too...
-Dan
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Phil Gons said:
Galaxie has 800 journals in their latest offering, and we already have more than 1,000. We have a lot more planned, and we'll likely be adding hundreds of additional volumes a year.
Could someone confirm that the Journal Library 1-15 is about 800 volumes? I am really curious how that collection compares to the current 1001 collection....
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Phil Gons said:
We'll get it resolved as soon as we can and notify you when it's working.
It's working now. If you already placed your pre-order, you may want to cancel and replace it. Otherwise, we'll manually go through and do that for you.
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Could someone confirm that the Journal Library 1-15 is about 800 volumes? I am really curious how that collection compares to the current 1001 collection....
Each volume of the TJL had 50 volumes of journals in it. So 1–16 would include 800 volumes. If you have 1–15, you'd have 750.
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This is so exiting, quite a few languishing prepubs and cp's are included, including the majestic but despaired of Princeton Theological Review.
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Pre-ordered this bundle. Dynamic Pricing seems to be working again. At least there was an on screen message saying that my price reflected journals I already have. [:^)]
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Phil Gons said:
Many of these are coming, but we didn't want to hold up the collection any longer. You've all been waiting long enough! We'll release updated versions of this collection as we get new batches of journals licensed.
I am in and eagerly awaiting the additions [<:o)]
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Phil-
are you saying that "all" the journals we had from Galaxie will be in the new Logos offering? Can we expect yearly updates to keep us current?
I already see a group I had no intrest in put in the bundle- whats this going to cost me every year to keep the ones I'm interested in current?
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Phil,
Dynamic Pricing seems to be fixed, but the info page still says "Dynamic pricing will be available soon. We apologize for the inconvenience.".
Can we assume that those of us with the Galaxie journals will get updated resources with this new bundle (with more links to secondary literature and fewer typos)?
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Phil Gons said:Sarel Slabbert said:
I currently have volumes 1-15. Does anyone know how big a difference Dynamic Pricing would have on this Bundle?
Sounds like you might own about half of this collection, give or take a bit. I'd guess you'd be looking at a 40–50% discount.
I also have volumes 1-15 but the price I am seeing only gives me a $85 discount. Is that what everyone else is seeing? (I also do not have Themelios yet).
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Geo Philips said:Phil Gons said:Sarel Slabbert said:
I currently have volumes 1-15. Does anyone know how big a difference Dynamic Pricing would have on this Bundle?
Sounds like you might own about half of this collection, give or take a bit. I'd guess you'd be looking at a 40–50% discount.
I also have volumes 1-15 but the price I am seeing only gives me a $85 discount. Is that what everyone else is seeing? (I also do not have Themelios yet).
I am not sure what discount I am getting, but my price now is: $333.85. Still expensive!
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Geo Philips said:
I also have volumes 1-15 but the price I am seeing only gives me a $85 discount. Is that what everyone else is seeing? (I also do not have Themelios yet).
It is different for everyone, depending on what you have. I have Vol 1-15 and Themelios and yet my discount is $283.39. This is why a chart highlighting what we have and what this set will give to us is important.
Also, the Princeton Theological Review is on prepub for $50. So a question is whether all that is offered in this MJB will be offered individually as well. If we order the MJB, we obviously would need to cancel one or more prepubs.
Your price must be lower because you must have other journals besides Themelios which are not in Galaxie...
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You are wrong about the Princeton Theological Review, it is on CP not Prepub and at the prevailing bid of $50 it will never be close to reaching publication.
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Phil Gons said:Mark Smith said:
Looks like Logos was unable to get the rights to many of the Galaxie published journals. Not having JETS is huge. Missing The Journal for Biblical Manhood and Womanhood, Tyndale Bulletin, and WTJ which I also want. Some nice additions, but no JETS. Not good. I hope the door isn't completely closed.
Many of these are coming, but we didn't want to hold up the collection any longer. You've all been waiting long enough! We'll release updated versions of this collection as we get new batches of journals licensed.
Galaxie has 800 journals in their latest offering, and we already have more than 1,000. We have a lot more planned, and we'll likely be adding hundreds of additional volumes a year.
We're also rebuilding all of these to take advantage of our latest tagging standards. We're exploring some cool new tooling for journals too. I think you'll really like everything we have in the works for journals.
So what happens to the pricing when more journals are added? Will the cost of the "Master Bundle" increase? Will those of us who already purchased it get these?
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Wow. I have TJL 1-16, Semeia, Themelios, JBL and my price is $291??? Only $200 off, many important journals missing, and this is supposed to be a replacement for the Galaxie offerings that you guys axed?
What this is is an attempt to publish a bunch of journals that have languished on Pre-pub and Community Pricing. Journals obviously most of us do not want.You seem to be saying, "If you want what you want, you're going to have to take what we have decided to add in (at a substantial increase in price)."
I am going to be thinking about this for awhile.
Logos, you talked big stuff about grand new plans for journals. Nothing has materialized that is grand. Journals languishing in pre-pub is all. We're getting the same story we got about 2 years ago (we're negotiating).
Logos, you cut off a supplier most of us wanted and the 'replacement' is a much more expensive and larger bundle of resources most of us don't seem to want. Maybe there are enough people who want the Bulletin of the American Schools of Oriental Research to swallow this offering and get it into publication. As you can tell, I'm likely not one of them.
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Bridgeport, CT USA
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The pricing will almost certainly go up when new journals are added. What will happen is that this collection will be retired, and a new, larger collection will be created in its place. if you purchase this one, you'll get dynamic pricing on the next.
This collection isn't part of the bundles offer. You can see those bundles at www.logos.com/bundles - but unless you bought Portfolio, I think you had to purchase the bundle at the same time as the base package to qualify for the discount.
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Mark Barnes said:
The pricing will almost certainly go up when new journals are added. What will happen is that this collection will be retired, and a new, larger collection will be created in its place. if you purchase this one, you'll get dynamic pricing on the next.
Hmm... usually when I buy something and then buy a larger collection later with dynamic pricing I pay a lot more than if I had just waited for the larger collection. I wonder if I should wait then. There are some nice additions here, but the absence of JETS and TynBul is huge.
David
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Mark Smith said:
Only $200 off, many important journals missing,
The two go together. Because there's not huge overlap between this and TLJ, then your discount is less than it would be otherwise.
Mark Smith said:What this is is an attempt to publish a bunch of journals that have languished on Pre-pub and Community Pricing.
I don't see it like that. I see it as a great opportunity to get a bunch of journals cheaply, that I couldn't afford when they're separated on pre-pub. I'm offered the bundle at $256, and I'd already placed a pre-order for Princeton at $100, and BA/NEA at $140. True, I see no value in the Journal of Markets and Morality and its ilk, and I already own the best of this bundle, but if Journal of Northwest Semitic Languages had been $50 instead of $150, I'd have bought it. Likewise for BASOR and NEASB. But this way, for me at least, they're effectively free — and much more likely to go into production.
Who cares if old editions of JETS and WTJ are missing? I already own them, and lose nothing by their absence. I care more about the new editions being missing, obviously, but if that's fixed reasonably soon, it's not as if I won't have anything useful to read whilst I'm waiting...
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Mark Barnes said:
I don't see it like that.
There are others like you who won't and if there are enough of you this will make it through pre-pub.
None-the-less they only real 'gains' here are journals not enough people have wanted in order to get them through pre-pub/CP. If you wanted all or most of them and get a good dynamic price you are set. If you didn't want them in the first place and have to pay $300 to get what you did want (or actually just a portion of what you wanted) you'd be displeased.
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Mark Smith said:
displeased.
That word about sums up my feelings. A few other descriptive words that describe my feelings include expected and frustrated.
I've pre-ordered the collection, but I don't expect to keep the pre-order unless Logos makes some serious progress in reaching parity with the Galaxie collections. It also looks like we will be paying hand over fist to get the journals we were paying a mere $50/year with Galaxie.
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I have to concur. I have TJL 1-10 and have been waiting to get 11-15 once they get things straightened out. However, they've raised my dynamic price on the TJL bundle from $189 to $275 (which is more than the old retail of $50/yr) and in this bundle they've only added journals that were languishing on prepub, as mentioned. I won't be ordering and I guess I won't be upgrading my TJL either. At this point it would be much cheaper to get a galaxie subscription but I was hoping to get them in Logos. I have access to ATLAS for free so I'll have to make do with that
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My .02:
1. There are far too many missing editions for this to be worth what the price, even with dynamic pricing.
2. As others say, I see this as a ploy to produce that which CP bidders have said they don't want.
3. This is far too large a bundle for me, who owns multiple TJLs.
4. The Journals I want, listed by many in above posts, are not there.
5. This is quite the let down if this is what Logos was trying to talk up as exciting for new journals in our libary.
6. I feel I need to say it again since NO ONE at Logos has ever directly repsond to me about it: Allowing our journal access to languish for 2 years while we could have had Galaxie's version in the meantime more than smacks of greed and control on Logos' part.
7. At this time I won't be placing an order for this, and I will continue to pay my $50/year for the online access elsewhere.
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Mark Smith said:Mark Barnes said:
I don't see it like that.
There are others like you who won't and if there are enough of you this will make it through pre-pub.
None-the-less they only real 'gains' here are journals not enough people have wanted in order to get them through pre-pub/CP. If you wanted all or most of them and get a good dynamic price you are set. If you didn't want them in the first place and have to pay $300 to get what you did want (or actually just a portion of what you wanted) you'd be displeased.
I am with Mark Smith on this. Too many Journals that I have little or no interest in, and many of the ones that were in TJL that I do have interest in are missing. Perhaps there will be a way to upgrade by journal or by smaller bundles more aligned to those of us used to the TJL in the future. I am passing on this.
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I'm with Mark Barnes. A few things I want, at a better price than I had bid on CP, a few things I'm ambivalent towards that are free, and a bunch of things I already own.
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Whyndell Grizzard said:
are you saying that "all" the journals we had from Galaxie will be in the new Logos offering?
That's our goal. No guarantee of that yet. We should be able to get most of them.
Whyndell Grizzard said:Can we expect yearly updates to keep us current?
I'd expect we'll release updates a couple times a year. It'll depend on how many we have available at any given time.
Whyndell Grizzard said:whats this going to cost me every year to keep the ones I'm interested in current?
We'll be offering journals individually as well. We'll explore other collections basic on your feedback.
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Mark Barnes said:
Dynamic Pricing seems to be fixed, but the info page still says "Dynamic pricing will be available soon. We apologize for the inconvenience.".
It's working, but we're still working out some kinks with it.
Mark Barnes said:Can we assume that those of us with the Galaxie journals will get updated resources with this new bundle (with more links to secondary literature and fewer typos)?
You absolutely will.
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Surprised not to see the Southeastern Review in there - seems like it should be easy enough to get.
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