Flash Cards for Latin Vocabulary

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Bruce Dunning | Forum Activity | Posted: Wed, Nov 26 2014 8:32 AM

I'm working my way through Logos' book "Introduction to Latin" - https://www.logos.com/product/43569/introduction-to-latin and ideally I'd like to create flash cards to work on vocabulary. I know that this can be done for Hebrew and Greek through the Word List tool but I'm pretty sure that it doesn't work for Latin.

Any suggestions?

It would be nice if it could work as described here with Hebrew, Greek, Aramaic, and Akkadian Grammars https://www.logos.com/training/vocabularylists but I don't think this is possible.

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Thomas Ball | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Nov 26 2014 4:51 PM

This likely isn't that answer you're looking for, but as I don't think we've tagged any of the books in Latin with their morphological information yet, and after trying to force the relevant information for a Latin flashcard into  word list to not-so-great results, I think right now a third party solution at this point will best suit you.

If you find a list of words from a specific book you want to study, you could use a Latin dictionary to find the word's information necessary for a flashcard (I've had a really good hit rate with Whitaker's "Dictionary of Latin forms" when I've looked up a word there), and with the Nominative form and Genitive ending, you could copy and paste that information into an application (like Mental Case if you have a Mac and/or iOS (http://www.mentalcaseapp.com/). 

I'm not sure if you're familiar with Reddit, but there is a fantastic subreddit for those interested in learning languages with links to resources (including flashcard resources) for that purpose (www.reddit.com/r/languagelearning). There is also a Latin subreddit (www.reddit.com/r/latin). 

Hopefully that isn't overly onerous, or someone else has a better plan in the meantime! 

 

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Bruce Dunning | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Nov 26 2014 5:18 PM

tommyball1:
This likely isn't that answer you're looking for, but as I don't think we've tagged any of the books in Latin with their morphological information yet, and after trying to force the relevant information for a Latin flashcard into  word list to not-so-great results, I think right now a third party solution at this point will best suit you.

Thanks for taking time to confirm what I thought was the case. I think I will probably have to just make my own cards the old fashioned way. I was just hoping there was an easy way to do it through Logos.

When you say...

tommyball1:
I don't think we've tagged any of the books in Latin with their morphological information yet

does that mean that you have plans to do so in the future?

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Mark Barnes | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Nov 27 2014 4:33 AM

tommyball1:
This likely isn't that answer you're looking for, but as I don't think we've tagged any of the books in Latin with their morphological information yet,

There are at many resources tagged with Latin morphology (although I think they're autotagged, rather than manually tagged). A morph search for @N with Latin morphology will find those resources.

However, that doesn't help too much because the "Add to Word List" function doesn't work properly for Latin lemmas. We should probably report that as a bug.

But I don't see why you can't use the Word List tool if you you're prepared to add the words manually.

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NB.Mick | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Nov 27 2014 5:07 AM

 

Bruce Dunning:

It would be nice if it could work as described here with Hebrew, Greek, Aramaic, and Akkadian Grammars https://www.logos.com/training/vocabularylists but I don't think this is possible.

Well, this desciption is for Libronix, as are the many files in those many languages attached. However, we know that more current versions of Logos can import these files (I hope they still do, haven't checked the feature in L6.0a).

If you look into the file format, you'll find it is a very basic XML which contains the Word List rows as blocks of information. One might open these in Excel or another tool and replace Greek with Latin words - I presume it's possible to thus generate Libronix-versions of Word list files for Latin grammars and import that into L6 just like those for Greek. If I were to do that, I'd check whether there is a vocabulary list existing on the web, say intended for Anki, and use this to save on typing. (On the other hand, inputting vocabulary by hand as you go will increase the learning experience - just saying). Importing such a list or enetring it by hand will in turn allow using the Logos flashcard functionalities including the app that goes with it. 

Of course, the more historically minded scholars, the (and probably many potential Noet customers) might want to just select a text of morphologically tagged Latin (from the Vulgate, Augustin or even from Cicero) and have Logos generate the Word list automatically. I hope we will see this in a future update. So far, either inputting by hand or trying to trick Logos to import a somewhat hand-crafted XML seem to be the options within Logos.

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Bruce Dunning | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Nov 27 2014 5:27 AM

Mark Barnes:
But I don't see why you can't use the Word List tool if you you're prepared to add the words manually.

Great suggestion. Thanks Mark.

NB.Mick:

Well, this desciption is for Libronix, as are the many files in those many languages attached. However, we know that more current versions of Logos can import these files (I hope they still do, haven't checked the feature in L6.0a).

If you look into the file format, you'll find it is a very basic XML which contains the Word List rows as blocks of information. One might open these in Excel or another tool and replace Greek with Latin words - I presume it's possible to thus generate Libronix-versions of Word list files for Latin grammars and import that into L6 just like those for Greek. If I were to do that, I'd check whether there is a vocabulary list existing on the web, say intended for Anki, and use this to save on typing.

Thanks for this suggestion. It gives me something to think about and play with.

NB.Mick:
(On the other hand, inputting vocabulary by hand as you go will increase the learning experience - just saying).

That still may end up being the best way. I may be able to kill two birds with one stone so to speak.

NB.Mick:
Of course, the more historically minded scholars, the (and probably many potential Noet customers) might want to just select a text of morphologically tagged Latin (from the Vulgate, Augustin or even from Cicero) and have Logos generate the Word list automatically. I hope we will see this in a future update.

This is my hope as well.

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