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  • Re: Roman Catholic Resources

    [quote user="Alex Scott"] [quote user="Matthew C Jones"]If water baptism is not what 1 Cor 12 & Romans 6 are talking about what type of baptism are referenced? How does a believer go about joining to the body and the death, burial & resurrection?[/quote] I know this will offend the erudite theologians among us who insist on fragmenting everything into
    Posted to Logos 4 by Bryan Brodess on Wed, Dec 30 2009
  • Re: Roman Catholic Resources

    [quote user="KevinTaylor"] [quote user="Dan Sheppard"] [quote user="Peter Cellini"]Maybe I'm just naive...I thought that Methodists, Dispensationalists, Lutherans, Presbyterians, Baptists, Episcopalians were all protestants. Aren't we still protesting the RC church?[/quote] Another "biggie" for Lutherans is infant baptism. Not to argue, but to point
    Posted to Logos 4 by Bryan Brodess on Wed, Dec 30 2009
  • Re: Roman Catholic Resources

    [quote user="Matthew C Jones"]I guess the bottom line for me is I am saved by the grace of God and my works have nothing to do with my salvation outside of possibly being a sign that God has saved me. Good works counts for nothing towards salvation but salvation will result in good works. But just because I can not earn my salvation does not mean I
    Posted to Logos 4 by Bryan Brodess on Wed, Dec 30 2009
  • Re: Would this be wrong?

    [quote user="Terry Poperszky"] [quote user="Shawn Drewett"]The Logos forums have developed into a very useful, and I might say, edifying tool. Would it be wrong to create a Technical forum concerning OS-Computer problems so that among our fellow Bible lovers we could obtain help? [/quote] As an I.T. professional, my only fear is that everyone considers
    Posted to General by Bryan Brodess on Tue, Dec 29 2009
  • Re: Roman Catholic Resources

    [quote user="Charles C Pace"] I am really enjoying reading this thread..... My Grace says that I KNOW I have eternal life....According to what I've studied no Muslim can say that.... Normal 0 false false false EN-US X-NONE X-NONE MicrosoftInternetExplorer4 1 John 5 11 And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in
    Posted to Logos 4 by Bryan Brodess on Tue, Dec 29 2009
  • Re: Roman Catholic Resources

    [quote user="Matthew C Jones"] [quote user="Bryan Brodess"]No one who does not practice or believe in OSAS believes this passage[/quote] According to Ray Comfort some who say they are saved are not ("false conversion.") According to Jesus some who believe they are saved are not. I was raised in the Independent Christian Church (a Stone-Campbell branch
    Posted to Logos 4 by Bryan Brodess on Tue, Dec 29 2009
  • Re: Roman Catholic Resources

    [quote user="MJ. Smith"] [quote user="John Bowling"]I think part of the problem is, as I pointed out earlier, that similar language is being used with different referents.[/quote] Exactly. Which is why my first reaction is to ask "how do you define x?" and "who taught you that definition?" As has been demonstrated on this thread, it leads to disagreements
    Posted to Logos 4 by Bryan Brodess on Tue, Dec 29 2009
  • Re: Abstaining from Zondervan Resources

    I think I said this in that thread, But if we use this as a criteria.. we would not be able to purchase any books, because all publishers will publish a book we will nnot agre with. I also take is to 1 Corinthians and Romans, Paul made it clear it was perfectly fine to eat meat even though this meat was sacrificed to pegan God's. why are we having the
    Posted to General by Bryan Brodess on Sat, Dec 26 2009
  • Re: Abstaining from Zondervan Resources

    [quote user="Sharon Jensen"] Paul had more to say in II Corinthians 6. Matthew 22 needs to be read with emphasis on rendering to God the things that are God's; only then can we truly know what belongs to Caesar. (belonging to Caesar meaning, God has permitted it.) [/quote] I disagree here, God said render to Caesar what is Caesars.. God put the government
    Posted to General by Bryan Brodess on Sat, Dec 26 2009
  • Re: Abstaining from Zondervan Resources

    [quote user="Paul Golder"] [quote user="Sharon Jensen"]But He does, read verse 17[/quote] Sharon, can we not conclude that Christ's main point is that we are told to function in the society that God has placed us in (including paying taxes, and inferred with that, purchasing what is needed to live our lives) while at the same time holding to what is
    Posted to General by Bryan Brodess on Sat, Dec 26 2009
  • Re: Roman Catholic Resources

    [quote user="Alex Scott"] [quote user="Bryan Brodess"]eis can easily be translated "because" John the baptist had a "baptism as the result or because of (eis) remission of sins" he proved this because he demanded that the religious Jews prove they had remmision of sin before he would even think of baptizing them.[/quote] If that particular line of reasoning
    Posted to Logos 4 by Bryan Brodess on Thu, Dec 31 2009
  • Re: Roman Catholic Resources

    [quote user="MJ. Smith"] [quote user="Bryan Brodess"]Moses and arron were given Gods law. they wrote it down.[/quote] Don't omit the Oral Torah from consideration. [/quote] Explain.. what oral torah?? [quote user="MJ. Smith"] [quote user="Bryan Brodess"]forced the NT high priest. whome many call the pope, to do what he refused to do with the OT high
    Posted to Logos 4 by Bryan Brodess on Thu, Dec 31 2009
  • Re: Roman Catholic Resources

    [quote user="MJ. Smith"] [quote user="Bryan Brodess"]This can be easily taken care of though.. What is the context of the passage.. Does it contradict other areas of scripture.[/quote] These are necessary steps - but they don't tell us if we are using the same meaning for a word. [/quote] No, but this is not what we are after. we are after the correct
    Posted to Logos 4 by Bryan Brodess on Tue, Dec 29 2009
  • Re: Roman Catholic Resources

    [quote user="MJ. Smith"] [quote user="Bryan Brodess"] No, but this is not what we are after. we are after the correct meaning of the word.. are we not??[/quote] No, I'm after the correct meaning of the Word - and for correction, reproof, education etc. that means understanding the words of Scripture in the language I am reading, its relationship to
    Posted to Logos 4 by Bryan Brodess on Tue, Dec 29 2009
  • Re: Roman Catholic Resources

    [quote user="MJ. Smith"] [quote user="Bryan Brodess"]Then you must make sure the word agrees with context of the passage and does not contradict other areas of scripture..[/quote] Okay, I promise this is my last attempt to get you to understand my statement. There are a number of different definitions of a word that could meet your context/noncontradiction
    Posted to Logos 4 by Bryan Brodess on Wed, Dec 30 2009
  • Re: OT: The Reformed View of the Ordo Salutis

    [quote user="Blair Laird"] [quote user="John Bowling"]So “saved in order to believe” is an imprecise (incorrect) statement because it confuses a part (regeneration, which I assume is what you mean to stand in for “saved”) with the whole (salvation or redemption).[/quote] "he saved us, not because of works done by us in righteousness, but according to
    Posted to General by Bryan Brodess on Wed, Dec 30 2009
  • Re: Relationships of various Christian groups

    As for the chart, it is still wrong.. For you have the church -non jewish- The church began jewish and spread to the gentiles.. It is not now, nor has it even been non jewish..
    Posted to General by Bryan Brodess on Mon, Dec 28 2009
  • Re: Roman Catholic Resources

    [quote user="Kenneth McGuire"] [quote user="Bryan Brodess"] again my argument is not against lutherans.. I do not my brother in law is a lutheran, he does not practice eucharist. and does not believe water baptism is essential to be saved, but is an answer of a good conscious to Christ.. after he was saved.. [/quote] Lack of participation in the Eucharist
    Posted to Logos 4 by Bryan Brodess on Mon, Dec 28 2009
  • Re: Roman Catholic Resources

    [quote user="Kenneth McGuire"] [quote user="Bryan Brodess"] God put the bible together. Inspired the writers to write it, And made sure every church had a copy.. otherwise they could not quote each other and call it scripture. Scripture was writtten as the church was born.. Was the churches instruction manual, as the OT was the Jewish instruction manual
    Posted to Logos 4 by Bryan Brodess on Mon, Dec 28 2009
  • Re: Roman Catholic Resources

    [quote user="MJ. Smith"] [quote user="Bryan Brodess"]But grace means unearned favor.. it means NO WORK.[/quote] from Logos: grace, the English translation of a Greek word meaning concretely ‘that which brings delight, joy, happiness, or good fortune.’ Grace in classical Greek applied to art, persons, speech, or athletics, as well as to the good fortune
    Posted to Logos 4 by Bryan Brodess on Mon, Dec 28 2009
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