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  • Re: Over $300 for L7 Features? Really?

    [quote user="Stephen Terlizzi"] If you don't provide a clear upgrade path for the core product, then you need to look at your support requirements for older versions. You can no longer simply say, "Upgrade free to the latest version and you will get the bug fix." You introduce problematic support issues and questions on customer abandonment at the end
    Posted to Logos 7 by Tony Thomas on Sat, Aug 27 2016
  • Re: Over $300 for L7 Features? Really?

    [quote user="Bob Pritchett"] We'll keep discussing this... one of the problems is that much of what's in Logos Now (and even more of what's coming) requires server access / huge data storage. If we move to a 'rent to own' model, that doesn't solve our maintenance / support / server costs problem. In fact, it's worse in many ways: instead of Option A
    Posted to Logos 7 by Tony Thomas on Sat, Aug 27 2016
  • Re: Over $300 for L7 Features? Really?

    [quote user="Shannon Martin"] Some of the comments here really seam to be from some alternate universe. Someone compared the price of Logos to Evernote. Evernote is a simple note taking app. The two are not even remotely comparable when it comes to development cost. Also, apps like Evernote, Pandora etc. appeal to huge segments of people. Logos will
    Posted to Logos 7 by Tony Thomas on Sat, Aug 27 2016
  • Re: Because the engine is always free

    [quote user="Jack Caviness"] [quote user="Tony Thomas"] I would rather pay $50 or $60 every few years for an engine that includes new features. Oh, wait! I already do that with another major Bible software platform! [/quote] Then, I gather your presence on this forum is simply to create turmoil. Do you have a genuine Logos question? [/quote] No, I am
    Posted to Logos 7 by Tony Thomas on Sat, Aug 27 2016
  • Re: This marketing strategy has me thoroughly confused.

    [quote user="Fr. Charles R. Matheny"] Dear Bud: I just posted similar before seeing yours. They did the same exact thing with Logos 6. I bought an upgrade from sales last night, its down loading now- Funny thing is= I have absolutely no idea what I bought, if I bought the right thing, If I got good value because i could not figure out how to compare
    Posted to Logos 7 by Tony Thomas on Sat, Aug 27 2016
  • Re: Over $300 for L7 Features? Really?

    [quote user="SineNomine"] [quote user="Tony Thomas"]By contrast, Faithlife/Logos wants $90-100 a year. That is more than I pay for Evernote and Pandora combined! What value will I receive from such a subscription? A whole bunch of new features/datasets that I am not sure that I can even benefit from since some/many of them are library-dependent. The
    Posted to Logos 7 by Tony Thomas on Sat, Aug 27 2016
  • Re: Over $300 for L7 Features? Really?

    [quote user="Sarel Slabbert"] [quote user="Tony Thomas"] Some suggestions to Faithlife/Logos: 1. Offer a monthly subscription option for everything at a slightly higher price. That way, a user doesn't have to fork over a large amount of money up front and has a chance to opt out if they can no longer afford the price or they are not using the features
    Posted to Logos 7 by Tony Thomas on Sat, Aug 27 2016
  • Re: Over $300 for L7 Features? Really?

    I am not adverse to subscription-based services. I have a Evernote subscription and will continue to subscribe even though they recently jacked up the price and cut the number of devices on the free version (causing a wave of complaints on their forum). I also subscribe to Pandora. A great music service. The differences between these services and what
    Posted to Logos 7 by Tony Thomas on Sat, Aug 27 2016
  • Re: Over $300 for L7 Features? Really?

    [quote user="SineNomine"] [quote user="Tony Thomas"]They have totally ignored the lower end of the market.[/quote] The lowest part of the market doesn't spend much, and most FL customers in the pre-subscription/membership era bought themselves one base package and never bought anything again. Bob has written and explained both of those things on the
    Posted to Logos 7 by Tony Thomas on Fri, Aug 26 2016
  • Re: Because the engine is always free

    [quote user="SineNomine"] [quote user="Tony Thomas"]I would rather pay $50 or $60 every few years for an engine that includes new features.[/quote] It would cost me less than that to buy the Starter Feature Set. [quote user="Tony Thomas"]I already do that with another major Bible software platform![/quote] It's not whether there are new features, but
    Posted to Logos 7 by Tony Thomas on Fri, Aug 26 2016
  • Re: Because the engine is always free

    I would rather pay $50 or $60 every few years for an engine that includes new features. Oh, wait! I already do that with another major Bible software platform!
    Posted to Logos 7 by Tony Thomas on Fri, Aug 26 2016
  • Re: Over $300 for L7 Features? Really?

    Logos seems to be wanting more and more $$$ each upgrade cycle. They have totally ignored the lower end of the market. Their competitors are much better at attracting people to their platform with free (public domain) resources or inexpensive packages. That introduces them to the platform and eventually they buy more and more resources. Logos is taking
    Posted to Logos 7 by Tony Thomas on Fri, Aug 26 2016
  • Re: This marketing strategy has me thoroughly confused.

    It appears to be more of a monetization strategy rather than a marketing strategy. It is designed to bring in as much recurring income into the company as possible a la Adobe and Microsoft.
    Posted to Logos 7 by Tony Thomas on Fri, Aug 26 2016
  • Re: Over $300 for L7 Features? Really?

    [quote user="Mike Binks"] [quote user="Tony Thomas"] So, no real way to try it out for a month or two and see if you actually benefit from the features? [/quote] We assume that operating the 30 day money back guarantee will be difficult but Faithlife have not said that they are not applying it to NOW subscriptions. I am sure that if you rang Customer
    Posted to Logos 7 by Tony Thomas on Fri, Aug 26 2016
  • Re: Over $300 for L7 Features? Really?

    Personally, I think it is a mistake to only offer an annual option. $90 is a big commitment for something that you don't get a chance to test out.
    Posted to Logos 7 by Tony Thomas on Fri, Aug 26 2016
  • Re: Over $300 for L7 Features? Really?

    [quote user="Graham Criddle"] [quote user="Tony Thomas"] So, no real way to try it out for a month or two and see if you actually benefit from the features? [/quote] Correct - and with the discounts available to Logos Now members:managing a free trial could be difficult "Always save at least 10% on Logos 7 Libraries Always save at least 25% on Logos
    Posted to Logos 7 by Tony Thomas on Fri, Aug 26 2016
  • Re: Over $300 for L7 Features? Really?

    So, no real way to try it out for a month or two and see if you actually benefit from the features?
    Posted to Logos 7 by Tony Thomas on Fri, Aug 26 2016
  • Re: Over $300 for L7 Features? Really?

    So, how does it compare to the regular biblia.com and bible.faithlife.com sites?
    Posted to Logos 7 by Tony Thomas on Fri, Aug 26 2016
  • Re: Over $300 for L7 Features? Really?

    So, what is going on with the web version of Logos that was one one the main features of Logos Now? Is it still in development? How far has it progressed? Since I have not seen it since the Logos Cloud rollout, I would be interested in knowing.
    Posted to Logos 7 by Tony Thomas on Fri, Aug 26 2016
  • Re: Over $300 for L7 Features? Really?

    Yes it is...
    Posted to Logos 7 by Tony Thomas on Thu, Aug 25 2016
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