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  • Re: Question for pastors whose churches use the NIV

    This was really intended to be more of a logistical question than a philisophical/theological question. I was hoping we wouldn't go down the path of debating the translation itself.
    Posted to General by Chris Lohroff on Thu, Jan 13 2011
  • Question for pastors whose churches use the NIV

    I'm curious how you're handling the release of the NIV 2011. Are you replacing your pew Bibles? Are you making your congregation aware that the update exists and that they new NIVs they bring won't jive with the version you're preaching from? Are you going to start preaching from the NIV 2011? Is anyone considering moving away from the NIV as a result
    Posted to General by Chris Lohroff on Thu, Jan 13 2011
  • Re: NIV 2010

    [quote user="Jonathan West"] [quote user="Chris Lohroff"] This isn't exactly correct is it? [/quote] In comparison to the NIV84 ... i.e. in quite a few verses the translation is different from the NIV84 ... [/quote] Yes Jonathan. You are correct. I guess my point was that this really isn't something brand new... it really a tweaking of something we
    Posted to General by Chris Lohroff on Thu, Jan 13 2011
  • Re: NIV 2010

    This isn't exactly correct is it? According to the analysis done here: http://www.slowley.com/niv2011_comparison It's really just a slight revision of the TNIV. What we've gotten here really isn't a NEW NIV, it's a Revised TNIV. It looks to me that since the TNIV didn't get the market penetration they wanted they've tried again by releasing it as a
    Posted to General by Chris Lohroff on Thu, Jan 13 2011
  • Re: Updated NIV

    [quote user="Richard Wardman"] I guess the plan was to not to produce a new translation but update the existing one. If 95% of the 1984 version is still there, then does it warrant a new name? Not sure! [/quote] I think you're probably right Richard. Giving it a new name would be problematic as well. I'm going to start calling the 1984 version the Old
    Posted to Logos 4 by Chris Lohroff on Wed, Jan 12 2011
  • Re: Updated NIV

    According to Biblica (which I think owns the international copyright to the NIV), the new version is simply called The New International Version. Personally, I think that's a mistake and it's already a source of confusion in my church. http://www.biblica.com/niv/
    Posted to Logos 4 by Chris Lohroff on Wed, Jan 12 2011
  • Re: export to PDF

    [quote user="Bill Shewmaker"] Now if they would only get the "send" to WordPerfect this would be a GREAT feature....if you just "copy to clipboard" then this can be exported to WordPerfect and you have the option in WP to either paste, paste without formatting, etc. Too bad that it takes an extra step to do it right. [/quote] Wow... WordPerfect. 50
    Posted to Logos 4 by Chris Lohroff on Fri, Jan 7 2011
  • Re: export to PDF

    [quote user="Kevin Becker"] I imagine pdf being in Mac and xps being in Widows is a matter of what the OSes bring to the table. I imagine that pdf for Mac and xps for Windows was very easy to do. No proof of this but just my speculations. [/quote] In my mind, XPS is not analogous to PDF. PDF is the cross-platform standard for document exchange... period
    Posted to Logos 4 by Chris Lohroff on Fri, Jan 7 2011
  • Re: export to PDF

    [quote user="Jack Caviness"] Save as PDF is part of the Mac Print Preview. Perhaps that is why it is available in L4 Mac. [/quote] Maybe I'm misunderstanding what they did, but export to PDF isn't something that needs to be built natively into any Mac application... you get it for free via preview (which I think it what you're saying Jack). That isn
    Posted to Logos 4 by Chris Lohroff on Fri, Jan 7 2011
  • Re: export to PDF

    [quote user="Mark A. Smith"] Currently the print driver is the way it works in Windows. What advantage would there would be to Logos adding this coding directly to their product? [/quote] Because having a direct export would be more intuitive? Most of the other Windows based packages I use have it built in... MS office, MindManager. And what happened
    Posted to Logos 4 by Chris Lohroff on Fri, Jan 7 2011
  • export to PDF

    According to http://wiki.logos.com/Logos_4.2a_Beta_4 PDF export has been added to the Mac version of the software. Is this feature supported in Windows? If so, I certainly can't find it. I'm currently using a PDF printer driver to accomplish this, but it would be much better to have it included in the product.
    Posted to Logos 4 by Chris Lohroff on Fri, Jan 7 2011
  • Re: Berkhof vs. Grudem

    Then I withdraw my prior apology as my harsh tone was appropriate! Are you still in West Michigan? Sadly, my basketball days are long over... and even before they were I wasn't much of a player.
    Posted to General by Chris Lohroff on Tue, Dec 21 2010
  • Re: Berkhof vs. Grudem

    [quote user="Richard DeRuiter"] Gudem is a contemporary evangelical. I have another book he wrote (in print, not in Logos), and while I appreciate his work, the level of scholarship isn't as rigorous as Berkhoff. But neither is he as dated.This work is quickly becoming a standard, and I'd probably buy it, if I felt I needed more than one systematic
    Posted to General by Chris Lohroff on Tue, Dec 21 2010
  • Re: Berkhof vs. Grudem

    Thanks for the clarification, George... and thanks for looking past my (inappropriate) tone to what I was trying to say. Having just taught this chapter in our bible doctrine class at church, it seemed to me he relied more on the OT than the NT to support his position. I'm not sure which specific items you are referring to which point out his abysmal
    Posted to General by Chris Lohroff on Tue, Dec 21 2010
  • Re: Berkhof vs. Grudem

    [quote user="George Somsel"] [quote user="Jason Kuo"] Hey all, I've already got Grudem's Systematic Theology - would it be valuable to have Berkhof's as well? Or is there enough overlap in theological position and/or method to make it somewhat redundant? Just wondering since it's on special. Thanks, Jason [/quote] I don't have Grudem and that quite
    Posted to General by Chris Lohroff on Tue, Dec 21 2010
  • Re: Doctrine Classes?

    We have 2 sets of men going through Grudem right now. One group is going through his 20 questions book and the other is using BIble Doctrine. It's our third year that we done the 20 questions book and our first with Bible Doctrine. We've had tremendous success with both groups. I teach the Bible Doctrine class and use the review and applications questions
    Posted to General by Chris Lohroff on Tue, Dec 21 2010
  • Re: Does Logos 4 link systematic theology texts with each other?

    Do you own Grudem's Systematic Theology? At the end of each chapter he cross references with several other ST's. I realize it's a bit old school, but I've found the cross references to be helpful on several occasions.
    Posted to Logos 4 by Chris Lohroff on Tue, Dec 21 2010
  • Re: Reading Plans -- Chapter a Day

    Logos doesn't enforce chapter breaks in manually created reading plans. You can accomplish this via the workaround discussed here: http://wiki.logos.com/Reading_Plans
    Posted to Logos 4 by Chris Lohroff on Tue, Dec 21 2010
  • Re: Help with a gift purchase

    Thanks Mark. That was my suspicion but I was hoping I was just doing something wrong. I'll call them tomorrow and get it worked out.
    Posted to General by Chris Lohroff on Thu, Dec 16 2010
  • Help with a gift purchase

    My mother purchased a Logos book for me. I think the sales/support staff made a mistake. Instead of attaching it to my account, they appear to have created a new account for her. Am I correct in assuming that this wasn't the correct procedure? I can't figure out how to load the book into my version of the software. I have logged in as her via logos
    Posted to General by Chris Lohroff on Thu, Dec 16 2010
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