When I double-click a word in the Bible I want it to be selected and the focus remain on the Bible. What happens, however, is that a dictionary opens with the focus.
Is there a way to disable this?
No there isn't.
You will have to highlight the word using right left click and drag.
When I double-click a word in the Bible I want it to be selected and the focus remain on the Bible. What happens, however, is that a dictionary opens with the focus. Is there a way to disable this?
Not that I'm aware of, since this behavior is by design.
If you want to select a single word, in a reverse interlinear (when the reverse interlinear panel is displayed) a single left-click selects the word/words represented by the underlying original language text. For other Bibles, or for when you do not have the reverse interlinear panel displayed (even if the in-line text is displayed) a single right-click selects the word and opens the right-click panel from which you can copy, as well as perform other operations.
The other way to select text is to left-click and drag over the word or words you want to select (the standard Windows function). If you have "Smart Text Selection" enabled, you will see other text selection behavior that varies depending on a number of factors. ("Smart Text Selection" can be enabled/disabled in the "Text Display" section of Settings.)
Thanks. That's too bad. These seem like workarounds for something that is very simple in every other program I use.
These seem like workarounds for something that is very simple in every other program I use.
Actually, left-click and drag, is the Windows standard for selecting text. It's not a work around.
Logos is a highly interactive Bible program. We should expect it to do something when we right-click, or double-click, and it does.
You can also do left-click on the left edge of the word followed by Shift+left-click on the right edge of the word if you find that easier or quicker to get exactly the selection you want than left-click and drag.
An even quicker way (which I would call a work-around) is right-click followed by Escape to dismiss the popup menu. It's visually not as nice because you have to see the undesired popup menu momentarily, but it's probably the easiest/quickest overall.
I don't know if you're married to a double-click. If you put an information panel next to your Bible, and select the appropriate choices in the Settings (of the information tool), then a single-click on a word does a lookup to your dictionary that you prioritized in your library, without loosing focus in the Bible.
In the example below, just quickly, I clicked on the english word 'offering' in the HALOT (or I could have done it in any resource, such as a Bible), and the definition was pulled from my highest prioritized dictionary.
That is not what Ken was asking. He wants a way to simply select a word without it doing a lookup. I think the rest of us have adequately answered that question.
Oops!! Was in the middle of my favorite Japanese detective show. But after the culprit was identified and I saw your note, I then proceded to wonder how the information panel arrived with akkadian, etc. Maybe another thread some day.
These seem like workarounds for something that is very simple in every other program I use. Actually, left-click and drag, is the Windows standard for selecting text. It's not a work around. Logos is a highly interactive Bible program. We should expect it to do something when we right-click, or double-click, and it does.
Thanks, everyone, for the suggestions.
left-click drag -- It is not the only windows standard behavior. Double-click also is a windows standard, at least from my experience in other apps. click-drag requires too much concentration trying to click on a small target (the word's beginning or end). Sometimes when I click, or even when I let up on the mouse button, I find I'm missing a letter and have to start over. Double-clicking on a word involves a much bigger target -- I have yet to miss that target. Maybe it is my old eyes.
we should expect it to do something -- What "we" expect and what I expect are different. I expect it to do what double-click does in every other app I use: select the word I double-click on. I expect some consideration for my preferences rather than being shoehorned into developers' (or a majority of users') preferences. I expect that if a program departs from a windows standard (for some gee-whiz "functionality" I don't want) there should be settings for reverting to simple, straightforward, intuitive, windows-standard behavior.
Right-click on a word (that big target) includes the option of looking up word definitions. That's pretty handy if that's what I want to do. I don't see why hijacking windows-standard functionality is (1) such a wonderful idea or (2) set in concrete.
Sorry if this sounds bitter. This is a frustration I've put up with for a long time and I finally decided to ask about it. I guess I have to continue putting up with it. Maybe I can use autohotkey to force L6 to do what I want -- although I'm a newbie with AHK and may take significant time investment, it will be worth it if successful.
For no other reason than I'm curious:
When you want to select a word, but you don't want to look it up in a dictionary, or see the underlying original language (in a reverse interlinear), or copy it to the clipboard, or search for it, what is it you want to do with the word you wish to highlight?
I'm trying to think of some reason to precisely select one word that is not handled by one of the built in Logos functions. I keep coming up blank.
Could you help me understand what it is that you want to do?
For no other reason than I'm curious: When you want to select a word, but you don't want to look it up in a dictionary, or see the underlying original language (in a reverse interlinear), or copy it to the clipboard, or search for it, what is it you want to do with the word you wish to highlight? I'm trying to think of some reason to precisely select one word that is not handled by one of the built in Logos functions. I keep coming up blank. Could you help me understand what it is that you want to do?
Most of the time I just want to copy the word to the clipboard. I know I could (1) right-click, (2) click "selection in the popup, and (3) click "copy" in the popup. But that is 3 steps.
I'm not much of a mouseketeer and try to do whatever I need with the keyboard. So my usual approach is (1) double-click the word and (2) press ctrl-c -- 2 steps. And it is the same 2 steps I use everywhere else (unless I can do it all with the keyboard, then I dispense with double-click). That's my habitual process. I'm robot-like with it.
So, everywhere else I use the 2-step method. I get to L6 and invoke the 2-step method -- now it is suddenly multiple steps to bail out (thinking, "oops I forgot L6 is different") and then embark on the 3-step mouseketeer method. The 3 step method turns into much more, leading to frustration.
What I want to do is maintain my no-brainer 2-step method without having to remember that L6 doesn't play nice with it.
Most of the time I just want to copy the word to the clipboard. I know I could (1) right-click, (2) click "selection in the popup, and (3) click "copy" in the popup. But that is 3 steps. I'm not much of a mouseketeer and try to do whatever I need with the keyboard. So my usual approach is (1) double-click the word and (2) press ctrl-c -- 2 steps. And it is the same 2 steps I use everywhere else (unless I can do it all with the keyboard, then I dispense with double-click). That's my habitual process. I'm robot-like with it.
Okay, thanks. I understand. It's not how I work, but I get why someone else would do it that way (especially for some of those pesky place-names and such).
So, everywhere else I use the 2-step method. I get to L6 and invoke the 2-step method -- now it is suddenly multiple steps to bail out (thinking, "oops I forgot L6 is different")
Logos is different than many Windows applications in this regard. I'll drop the debate about whether or not this is a Windows standard behavior; it doesn't matter. It's what you encounter in other programs you use, and wish Logos worked the same.
If you wish, you can make this a suggestion in the suggestion forums.
I'm not much of a mouseketeer and try to do whatever I need with the keyboard.
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